Real Folk Blues Rematch [GAME OVER]

[rb]

LUV feels town

Ramona idk

[Insomniacs]

Twin, your entrance was some hot garbage. You summarized a few events of the game prior to your post without using them to make a point and voted one of the townier slots for "hurr shitposting". In #782 you tell Ram that Doggo is town based on how bad Ram's reads always are and then vote him. Well which is it, town Ram with shit reads or scum? You also bring up the possibility of multiball in that post which you just conveniently ignored when you blew up on us for scumreading both you and Gamma. I'm allowed to scumread you two independently regardless. It's not like Gamma has flipped yet. You're right though. You caught Gamma so hard that our vote and explanation on gamma were retroactively edited into our posts from before you said anything about him. We highlighted a post of Gamma's we didn't like and said there are others that bug us. How is that any different than your glorious "just go iso gamma" case? I wasn't trying to take credit for shit nor trying to create any false associations, but it sure looks like you are. You also throw shade on obvtown Rach at some point which is a big nono.

Narna have you and Math synced yet?

Yeah, what's crackin'?

Math asked for feedback on your reads. I'd like to do that without guessing.

Pretty much Narna and I are in sync on a lot of our reads but for different reasons. We spent a while talking about it. Not a fan of me being called bad for having a life. I am also posting slower intentionally because I am collaborating with Narna. Good night all.
--Mathblade

[Cerberus v666]

I really wonder how Gamma could possibly interpret my statements so far as me calling townhunting rolefishing. I just refused to answer because I don't personally claim without a good reason to do so, and helping someone whose alignment I'm uncertain of figure out parts of the setup is not a good reason. I have no objections to what Titus was doing other than believing it's risky and the benefits are unlikely to outweigh the risks, and demanding she give me more regarding her justificstion for outing rbs "conftown to her" status early on D1.

Regarding the random thing: if you read the sign up thread, you'd know it's completely NAI. As scum I'd feel obligated to do it, and as tkwn I'd do it because it seems fun.

[Scott and Ramona]

I have no idea what I meant to say but the Gin read is totally typoed out. I'll try to figure out what I meant there in a bit. I think I was typing something, had another thought, and wrote that thought and it just ended up messed up.
Master Vampire doesn't really seem to have scum motivation to their posts, plus as I said I can understand his scumread of me.
The post where SlySly did the coin flip is what I'm basing my scumread on. Not only is voting based on RNG banned, it reads as scum who doesn't care which slot between me and Tywin gets lynched.
As for Carnelian, I'm used to that player lurking. I don't see how voting me is supposed to be an issue.

Do you really think he determined his vote based on a coin flip? I think he thinks you two are teamed based on I guess how you've been responding to Ty? I think he was just having some fun with the players he feels are obvious scum by taunting them with the picture of an iPad that contains some sort of coin flipping app.

The thing with Carnelian for me in relation to you is that I just don't see how you are more concerned with Sly's vote when her vote can be easily labeled the same thing. I don't see Yume pulling the miller stunt as scum for the record but I just don't like how selective these reads feel.

One minor phenommina that I did see in multi ball was the designated mislynch getting double teamed by both scum teams. Both sides dogpile, then see the others players (of another alignment) dog piling on as well and it seems like this weird consensus forming out of the blue, but it's really something much sillier. Have we had a number of wagons like that in this game?

I'll let YOU figure THAT out.

One minor phenommina that I did see in multi ball was the designated mislynch getting double teamed by both scum teams. Both sides dogpile, then see the others players (of another alignment) dog piling on as well and it seems like this weird consensus forming out of the blue, but it's really something much sillier. Have we had a number of wagons like that in this game?

VCA isn't really my thing but I'm going to say no. The only major wagons we've had are Not Fury and SQ and they weren't even that big considering the size of this game.

- Scott

Missing something are we?

Not according to the mod's ISO? I know you've been voted but I don't know how large your wagon has gotten or currently is.

- Scott

[Gamma Emerald]

I have no idea what I meant to say but the Gin read is totally typoed out. I'll try to figure out what I meant there in a bit. I think I was typing something, had another thought, and wrote that thought and it just ended up messed up.
Master Vampire doesn't really seem to have scum motivation to their posts, plus as I said I can understand his scumread of me.
The post where SlySly did the coin flip is what I'm basing my scumread on. Not only is voting based on RNG banned, it reads as scum who doesn't care which slot between me and Tywin gets lynched.
As for Carnelian, I'm used to that player lurking. I don't see how voting me is supposed to be an issue.

Do you really think he determined his vote based on a coin flip? I think he thinks you two are teamed based on I guess how you've been responding to Ty? I think he was just having some fun with the players he feels are obvious scum by taunting them with the picture of an iPad that contains some sort of coin flipping app.

The thing with Carnelian for me in relation to you is that I just don't see how you are more concerned with Sly's vote when her vote can be easily labeled the same thing. I don't see Yume pulling the miller stunt as scum for the record but I just don't like how selective these reads feel.

Carnelian's vote was RVS. How is that being selective?

One minor phenommina that I did see in multi ball was the designated mislynch getting double teamed by both scum teams. Both sides dogpile, then see the others players (of another alignment) dog piling on as well and it seems like this weird consensus forming out of the blue, but it's really something much sillier. Have we had a number of wagons like that in this game?

I'll let YOU figure THAT out.

One minor phenommina that I did see in multi ball was the designated mislynch getting double teamed by both scum teams. Both sides dogpile, then see the others players (of another alignment) dog piling on as well and it seems like this weird consensus forming out of the blue, but it's really something much sillier. Have we had a number of wagons like that in this game?

VCA isn't really my thing but I'm going to say no. The only major wagons we've had are Not Fury and SQ and they weren't even that big considering the size of this game.

- Scott

Missing something are we?

Not according to the mod's ISO? I know you've been voted but I don't know how large your wagon has gotten or currently is.

- Scott

It's gotten large, I can tell you that.

[Scott and Ramona]

I have no idea what I meant to say but the Gin read is totally typoed out. I'll try to figure out what I meant there in a bit. I think I was typing something, had another thought, and wrote that thought and it just ended up messed up.
Master Vampire doesn't really seem to have scum motivation to their posts, plus as I said I can understand his scumread of me.
The post where SlySly did the coin flip is what I'm basing my scumread on. Not only is voting based on RNG banned, it reads as scum who doesn't care which slot between me and Tywin gets lynched.
As for Carnelian, I'm used to that player lurking. I don't see how voting me is supposed to be an issue.

Do you really think he determined his vote based on a coin flip? I think he thinks you two are teamed based on I guess how you've been responding to Ty? I think he was just having some fun with the players he feels are obvious scum by taunting them with the picture of an iPad that contains some sort of coin flipping app.

The thing with Carnelian for me in relation to you is that I just don't see how you are more concerned with Sly's vote when her vote can be easily labeled the same thing. I don't see Yume pulling the miller stunt as scum for the record but I just don't like how selective these reads feel.

Carnelian's vote was RVS. How is that being selective?

One minor phenommina that I did see in multi ball was the designated mislynch getting double teamed by both scum teams. Both sides dogpile, then see the others players (of another alignment) dog piling on as well and it seems like this weird consensus forming out of the blue, but it's really something much sillier. Have we had a number of wagons like that in this game?

I'll let YOU figure THAT out.

One minor phenommina that I did see in multi ball was the designated mislynch getting double teamed by both scum teams. Both sides dogpile, then see the others players (of another alignment) dog piling on as well and it seems like this weird consensus forming out of the blue, but it's really something much sillier. Have we had a number of wagons like that in this game?

VCA isn't really my thing but I'm going to say no. The only major wagons we've had are Not Fury and SQ and they weren't even that big considering the size of this game.

- Scott

Missing something are we?

Not according to the mod's ISO? I know you've been voted but I don't know how large your wagon has gotten or currently is.

- Scott

It's gotten large, I can tell you that.

Yeah, however she has a post long after RVS and didn't unvote. I think that can be considered riding since you were receiving a bit suspicion during that point.

- Scott

[Gamma Emerald]

I guess she didn't see reason to unvote me.

[Randomnamechange]

Yume

I was asking Doggo
@Wall the reads will come soonish.

sorry thought you didnt know

{Not Fury, Wall}
{Cerebrus v666, Insomniacs, KidAMN, Chairman doggo}
{Siblings Quarrel}
{ Davesaz, ZZZX, Tarkus, Ramcious, SlySly}
{mhsmith0, Shiro, Carnelian, DanelerH, Majiffy, Master Vampire, PeregrineV, Titus, GinghamDog}
{Not Chara, Tywin Lannister, Socrates, Rb, Scott and Ramona}
{Nero Cain, TheRealGin-N-Tonic}
{Almost50(ok they should be a slight townlean but im putting them here purely out of paranoia), Gamma Emerald, RachMarie}
these are my reads atm, tier beginning with smith is null

The read on me is very justified and is probably wise coming from you.

What I don't get is how come Titus is null and rb below null!! care to share?

i cant be arsed to sort their claim atm so I'm ignoring it. I remember next to no actual useful content from rb despite having the highest post count in the game more or less. Titus I'm unsure on bc their interaction with cerb was weird but not necessarily scummy
intent to vote gamma after we get VCs

[Gamma Emerald]

I found out found Grey a little before he was banned

[Gamma Emerald]

I found out from Grey a little before he was banned

Ebwodp

[Insomniacs]

Not Chara is based on what Narna and I feel are inconsistencies regarding Undertale and here. I don't have time to go too indepth right now.

i'd like you both to.
because you, Mathblade, have far too many towngames with me to be pointing at a single past towngame and saying 'inconsistency'. ;>

Almost: i'm not following you right now, don't you worry.

You seem to be reaching for low hanging fruit. Rach is obvtown and pushing obvtown Rach is unacceptable. Ramcius is lynchbait. I don't like those on their own.

The Undertale thing just accentuates the read. You were looked past the lynchbait Pepto and Giga slots (who were constantly misplaying and being scummy) and defended them as town. I don't see anything scummy from Rach or Ram. The bolded is the important part though.

-N

What makes Rach obv!town? I thought the assessment of Nero in the early game was a reach and I'm still sorting through her change of opinions of the slot

+A billion to Narna well said.

Because she is hunting. Even when on V/LA as Town she hunts with the small amount of time she has. As scum she stalls to give reads and is generally just more bitchy.

#loveYouRM

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Call me crazy guys, but I think Gamma and Twinn look scummy as fuck. I'm kind of seeing what Ali's putting down about Scott, but Majiffy/Scott looked tvt to me. I don't really have time to elaborate right now, but we should be staying the course with this Gamma wagon.

-N

In what world do you think me and gamma are scum buddies? I've been hard pushing gamma forever now, while you try shit flinging without anything to back it up, but then say ridiculous shit like 'lets stay the gamma course' as if you had any fucking thing to do with it. Don't try to take credit when others catch scum. You havent done a single thing all game long, and you're a hydra. That's doubly damning. Two useless scumsters in one scummy slot. The only reason i can think of for you to be saying this gamma + tywin shit is because you know gamma is the inevitable lynch, so you're trying to place false associations with your scum buddy gamma. You know who else did it? SlySly.

Oh and this 'guys look! I'm posting! These players are scum but ohhhhhh look at the time! Got to go! No time to explain any of the bullshit I spew!' is the scummiest thing ive seen all game outside of gamma's ISO, Rams' iso, and SlySlys coin flip post (which is basically his entire iso). Interestingly enough, it happened to have the exact same gamma + Tywin read as the illogical and unexplained shit you've been slinging. Gonna catch your whole scum team by myself at this rate. Onward with gamma, then insomniacs or SlySly next.

First of all, your attacking RL is shit and you'll notice that I wasn't anywhere else on the board. You are better than attacking someone over RL. Secondly I am explaining content as best as I can in a rapid moving thread. You + Gamma makes sense because the bus is awkward as fuck your emotions are waaaaaaaaay too overblown and your interactions with Doggo are atrocious. Onward to us will NOT be a thing. No matter how much you want it to be.

--Math

[Titus]

LUV feels town

Ramona idk

I am beginning to think the others are lurkers or scum fake claims.

[Hiraki]

Now that you mentioned Wall and Rach interactions it reminded me of Wall saying he would spoiler his posts for Rach. I didn't consider it much at the time but now when I think of Gork slipping that he is wall it made me think a thought.

????

He acknowledges he generally finds me scummy but doesn't use that as a reason to townread me.

Just so we're clear, I said that because I currently still think you are scummy.

I hate 1391 because it's really nonchalant. Also there are no scumreads outside of:

Smith: who has posted like maybe a max of 10 times
Slysly: who I think just about everyone has called a mixture of scummy and dodgy

I could be just flat out wrong here but TRing this many people is detrimental to the game state.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Now that you mentioned Wall and Rach interactions it reminded me of Wall saying he would spoiler his posts for Rach. I didn't consider it much at the time but now when I think of Gork slipping that he is wall it made me think a thought.

????

Click the post link, there is literally more words for you to read in the same post you're asking a question about.

[Hiraki]

I read it before - doesn't really make sense to me.

[Wall]

___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|___|___|___|___| Gin, |___|___|___|
___|___|are you still liking your Kid|___|__
_|___|___|___|___|vote?|___|___|___|___|
___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__

[davesaz]

Marker: At bottom of 52 and gonna look through these 5 pages to see if I even need the ones back to my previous marker.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I read it before - doesn't really make sense to me.

It's a behavioral assessment of Wall due to what I've come to know as his playstyle philosophy.

If someone you knew generally loved to be a nice guy, but then came off with unnecessary abrasiveness, you would note that change. It's basically a tonal town lean on Wall.

___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|___|___|___|___| Gin, |___|___|___|
___|___|are you still liking your Kid|___|__
_|___|___|___|___|vote?|___|___|___|___|
___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__

For what it's worth yeah, I'll move it eventually as it looks to be a vanity wagon. I kinda just do my own thing until the second half of D1 and then the show begins.

[davesaz]

I completely missed Not_Fury's cop claim and walkback, I need to go and find it in her iso before making comment there.

Thanks for mentioning this. Reminder to myself to go find it.

I think Wall has been doing a surprisingly good job of sharing thoughts while sticking to their gimmick. He has too many posts under a gimmick that he said was surprisingly hard to do, and they don't feel like fluff even if I can't recall offhand what their current stances are in general.

I agree with this. Wall's posts have seemed focused and topical, though I couldn't tell you what the positions mean. Of course that's mostly because there are ~25 pages that I haven't read. The gimmick only slows down iso reading a little, so it will only take a little effort to distill it and see what comes out.

[Wall]

I read it before - doesn't really make sense to me.

It's a behavioral assessment of Wall due to what I've come to know as his playstyle philosophy.

If someone you knew generally loved to be a nice guy, but then came off with unnecessary abrasiveness, you would note that change. It's basically a tonal town lean on Wall.

___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|___|___|___|___| Gin, |___|___|___|
___|___|are you still liking your Kid|___|__
_|___|___|___|___|vote?|___|___|___|___|
___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__

For what it's worth yeah, I'll move it eventually as it looks to be a vanity wagon. I kinda just do my own thing until the second half of D1 and then the show begins.

_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|
___|You haven't really commented|___|__
_|___|___| on his recent posts. |___|___|
___| You still feel exactly the same|___|__
_|___|___|___|about him? |___|___|___|
___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__

_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|
___|___|___|I feel like you've|___|___|__
_|___|___|seen me talk in sitechat|___|___|
___|___|about how much of an ass|___|__
_|___|I can be as town. So I don't know|___|
___|___|where this "probably town if|___|__
_|___|___|being nice" is coming from|___|___|
___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__

[davesaz]

@rb

I know you are on vla but being our flavor expert, did what I said about mine make any sense? I wish I had more but there was not much in the wikapedia about her. Other than she killed a bad guy and her blood saved peeps lol

1. Need to look at what Rach claimed for flavor.

2. Flavor isn't necessarily AI -- if it were then the game would be too easy to solve by having everyone flavor claim. It can be good for guiding how we go about sorting people, but is far from confirmable.

Even though it's helpful to use flavor, it can be dangerous too. Example: Titus claimed to be a noble in Code Geass, but the flavor she claimed was a former noble. I jumped hard on the inconsistency and had almost enough support to lynch her. We were both town.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Shitposting and grandstanding

Grandstanding was 832

The shitposting after 500 which was around my last comment on him has been about how he's not good at D1, how he is or isn't an alt/newbie, and jokes. He also makes an empty statement how lurkers are most likely scum and to push a PL on Mathblade in 653.

Also regarding Mathblade, Kid has gone on to shade Math's slot as soon as it walks in the door. I know Math is difficult to deal with, but in Gay Maf 3, Math literally was able to call out Cephrir and Kuribo as scum on the spot as a replace in. Math is a useful person, you just gotta put in the effort.

[Wall]

_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|
___|___|You have an awareness of|___|__
_|___|Civ Mafia. I'm pretty sure you |___|
___|___|should understand why Kid|___|__
_|___|___|could have that POV.|___|___|
___|___|Regardless of your own|___|__
_|___|perception of Math, so I don't|___|
___|___|get why that's scummy?|___|__
_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|

_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|
___|I'm asking you for your thoughts|___|__
_|___|on his posting on and after 967.|___|
___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__

[Insomniacs]

Agreed. Mainly I hydra'd with Narna and will hydra with another player to try to get my love for Mafia back.

I am an extremely swingy player. In Elemental Trinity I started off bad and I was vigged. In Civ Mafia while I was horribly wrong on scumreads, I was excellent in town ones. I get sick and tired of some of the shit that gets thrown around MS.

Right now the way I am being interacted with and mostly ignored tells me that I am likely on the right track for things. No one is actually talking about them when they are the main wagon and instead trying to bring up diversions.

What do you make of the majority of player base ignoring what I am saying?

--Math