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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:31 am
by xyzzy
this is xyzzy, your moderator, your best friend, and your presidential alert. I'm sorry for that obnoxious noise I made your phone do a few minutes ago.

votecount 3.052 players voting for Kokichi Oma (Shoshin, Gamma Emerald)
1 player voting for Gamma Emerald (Nosferatu)

6 players not voting for lynch (skitter30, northsidegal, Porkens, Creature, Kokichi Oma, xRECKONERx)

with 9 votes, it takes 5 to lynch.

9 players not voting for Fantasy Gachapon (xRECKONERx, skitter30, northsidegal, Kokichi Oma, Gamma Emerald, Porkens, Nosferatu, Creature, Shoshin)

the current day will end in (expired on 2018-10-14 01:30:00).

mod notes:

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:41 am
by Gamma Emerald
Nice one xyzzy
I was playing Pokémon go when that happened

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:59 am
by Nosferatu
In post 1397, Gamma Emerald wrote:Btw, resuming reading the pages before I replaced in, which I wanted to do d2 but the day got sidetracked
In post 673, Shoshin wrote:I'm not lynching someone just because you dislike them, but if you give me a reason to think Reck's scum, sure. I think double voter is town more often than scum, and the fact that he was checking the game as a hurricane approached when he didn't actually have to check it if he were scum makes me think he's town. Not a great reason, but slightly townier than null.
Do you think diubkevote is town vía general thinking or specific mod meta?
ive checked thread as scum while a hurricane was literally over my house so idk about this reason for a townread

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:01 am
by Gamma Emerald
I think it’s engagement indicative not alignment indicative
Though I don’t recall seeing much to suggest Reck actually IS engaged in the game.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:22 am
by skitter30
i was thinking about it a bit more and i think that reck sitting on gamma emerald at the end of day 1 is low-key townie in that since he claims that if he changes his vote he loses the double-vote, the irrel lynch would have required 8 votes instead of 7 if he had moved off of gamma, which imo would have made the mislynch slightly harder to get

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:43 pm
by skitter30
Im kinda troubled by the fact that nsg isnt really doing anything

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:19 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1404, skitter30 wrote:i was thinking about it a bit more and i think that reck sitting on gamma emerald at the end of day 1 is low-key townie in that since he claims that if he changes his vote he loses the double-vote, the irrel lynch would have required 8 votes instead of 7 if he had moved off of gamma, which imo would have made the mislynch slightly harder to get
Okay can you rephrase this because it’s incredibly hard to tell what point you’re making
Feels like a SHROOP tbh

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:59 am
by northsidegal
In post 1405, skitter30 wrote:Im kinda troubled by the fact that nsg isnt really doing anything
seems disingenuous considering the overall pace of the game

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:28 am
by skitter30
In post 1406, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1404, skitter30 wrote:i was thinking about it a bit more and i think that reck sitting on gamma emerald at the end of day 1 is low-key townie in that since he claims that if he changes his vote he loses the double-vote, the irrel lynch would have required 8 votes instead of 7 if he had moved off of gamma, which imo would have made the mislynch slightly harder to get
Okay can you rephrase this because it’s incredibly hard to tell what point you’re making
Feels like a SHROOP tbh
basically that staying on you meant that it took one more vote to mislynch someone; i'm kinda wondering if scum would have voted like anywhere else in order to make a mislynch a little bit easier for them given the deadline and the fact that people were having a very hard time coming to any sort of conclusion

although looking again he didn't post between gammagooey being the leading wagon in and eod so this could just be a moot point (ie if he's scum with gammagooey he wants it to take 8 votes to get a lynch in and he wouldn't have much incentive to switch while his partner was the leading wagon). in this context staying on you while the gamma wagon built is kinda scummy imo

no idea what shroop means
In post 1407, northsidegal wrote:
In post 1405, skitter30 wrote:Im kinda troubled by the fact that nsg isnt really doing anything
seems disingenuous considering the overall pace of the game
it's more a combo of knowing you tend to flake out of scumgames (like, say, gerrymandering - you can keep up the energy/posting for a while and than you kinda petered out till you eventually got replaced; jungle republic too) + you driving the mislynch day1 and like ... not really re-evaluating upon the townflip; your posts since the irrel flip are kinda meh and i would kinda expect a townie who was that wrong to re-evaluate or start looking elsewhere for scum but i'm not really seeing that happening that much tbh

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:34 am
by northsidegal
saying i should be reevaluating implies there was something associative to my scumreads, which isn't the case. i've always liked cogito ergo sum's thoughts on this:
Cogito Ergo Sum wrote: I know this is a concept floating for some reason but this is actually the completely opposite of how it works. Eddie (and Postie) flipping town simply makes it more likely that Marquis is scum - there's only 3 scum and quite a few people look townie to various degrees so it's only become more likely that Marquis is scum. If you're looking for someone and there's 2 man-sized bushes, it's 50-50 they're in the first one but if the first bush is empty, then it's very likely Marquis is hiding in the other one.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:36 am
by Gamma Emerald
SHROOP is a shorthand for a post that because of oddness in how they're written have higher scum equity, based on the idea that scum are more likely to revise and thus more likely to make those errors.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:48 am
by skitter30
In post 1409, northsidegal wrote:saying i should be reevaluating implies there was something associative to my scumreads, which isn't the case. i've always liked cogito ergo sum's thoughts on this:
Cogito Ergo Sum wrote: I know this is a concept floating for some reason but this is actually the completely opposite of how it works. Eddie (and Postie) flipping town simply makes it more likely that Marquis is scum - there's only 3 scum and quite a few people look townie to various degrees so it's only become more likely that Marquis is scum. If you're looking for someone and there's 2 man-sized bushes, it's 50-50 they're in the first one but if the first bush is empty, then it's very likely Marquis is hiding in the other one.
ok what do you think about reck (ie the other person you were trying to get lynched that day that you haven't really mentioned much since then)?
In post 1410, Gamma Emerald wrote:SHROOP is a shorthand for a post that because of oddness in how they're written have higher scum equity, based on the idea that scum are more likely to revise and thus more likely to make those errors.
still don't really know what you're trying to say, sorry

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:49 am
by Gamma Emerald
I'm saying the incomprehensibleness of the post looks mildly scummy in a way

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:51 am
by skitter30
oh got it

eh i can understand that; i think i'd have cared more about trying to make it more comprehensible if i was scum but whatever

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:53 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1413, skitter30 wrote:oh got it

eh i can understand that; i think i'd have cared more about trying to make it more comprehensible if i was scum but whatever
Fair point, you'd want to convince people

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:04 am
by northsidegal
In post 1411, skitter30 wrote:ok what do you think about reck (ie the other person you were trying to get lynched that day that you haven't really mentioned much since then)?
still think he's scum but considering as he's basically only voted gamma today and nothing else i don't have much new to talk about. i suppose it could be said that gamma and reck probably aren't s/s.

wondering whether to pursue reck or try to go more off the varsoon rb today.

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:04 am
by northsidegal
VOTE: kokichi

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:59 am
by Nosferatu
In post 1415, northsidegal wrote:i suppose it could be said that gamma and reck probably aren't s/s.
idk about that honestly

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:00 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1417, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 1415, northsidegal wrote:i suppose it could be said that gamma and reck probably aren't s/s.
idk about that honestly
Why?

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:06 am
by Nosferatu
cause i mean i just played a game where rc bused math so hard he got force replaced just like here.
they cross voted and math didn't unvote the entire time the slot was alive.

im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs

i also think skitter is town, her posts are more useless as scum

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:09 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1419, Nosferatu wrote:cause i mean i just played a game where rc bused math so hard he got force replaced just like here.
they cross voted and math didn't unvote the entire time the slot was alive.

im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs

i also think skitter is town, her posts are more useless as scum
Math kept his vote there because of the bad push though right? Reck doesn’t think like math so keeping the vote doesn’t mean the same thing

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:31 am
by xRECKONERx
man my fave thing is where someone goes "oh two totally other people did it in this game one time therefore it's totally happening here"

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:49 am
by Kokichi Oma
Sup guys

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:47 am
by Nosferatu
In post 1421, xRECKONERx wrote:man my fave thing is where someone goes "oh two totally other people did it in this game one time therefore it's totally happening here"
Nosferatu wrote:im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs
Nosferatu wrote:im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs
Nosferatu wrote:im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs
Nosferatu wrote:im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs
Nosferatu wrote:im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs
Nosferatu wrote:im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs
Nosferatu wrote:im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs
Nosferatu wrote:im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs
Nosferatu wrote:im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs
Nosferatu wrote:im not saying its what happened here but i wouldnt say that their interactions are indicative of not svs

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:48 am
by Nosferatu
oh gee i think there was a bug