Mini Normal 2081 — My First Game! [Game Over]

chennisden · Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:42 pm

In post 1395, skitter30 wrote:i mean if you think i'm scum voting with me doesn't sound like a great plan

chennisden · Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:44 pm

I don't Sr skitter more than cinnamon or pisskop

But I don't particularly think she's town

chennisden · Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:44 pm

Sorry I forgot about your vla.

chennisden · Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:45 pm

Menalque exilon will you be willing to compromise on pisskop or snth

Exilon · Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:12 pm

Not pisskop.
For raisons

chennisden · Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:15 pm

chennisden · Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:17 pm

exilon would you be down to hydra sometime

ill be busy for the next few weeks but should be able to sign up for another game in the next month at latest

ClearlyClarity · Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:19 am

VC when I wake up tomorrow. Kinda sleepy rn

skitter30 · Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:31 am

oh boy i just realized deadline is in like 36 hours

Exilon · Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:31 am

In post 1406, chennisden wrote:exilon would you be down to hydra sometime

ill be busy for the next few weeks but should be able to sign up for another game in the next month at latest

maybe, I never did one before

About the 36 hours,

yeah, it kinda sucks. I'd be willing to lynch Cinn, but I don't think that's happening today according to the rest of town?
Skitter what's your thoughts on Cinnamon? I get that you're TR'ing him, could you elaborate a bit? Specifically if you could touch on what I pointed out as making me unsure (ie dissonance)

pisskop · Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:36 am

we can kill gammaslot

Exilon · Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:01 am

You're suggesting killing the one slot with the strongest consensual townread.

skitter30 · Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:45 am

In post 1409, Exilon wrote:
In post 1406, chennisden wrote:exilon would you be down to hydra sometime

ill be busy for the next few weeks but should be able to sign up for another game in the next month at latest
maybe, I never did one before

About the 36 hours,

yeah, it kinda sucks. I'd be willing to lynch Cinn, but I don't think that's happening today according to the rest of town?
Skitter what's your thoughts on Cinnamon? I get that you're TR'ing him, could you elaborate a bit? Specifically if you could touch on what I pointed out as making me unsure (ie dissonance)

can you point to a few examples of the dissonance?

skitter30 · Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:11 am

exi how do you feel about lynching chenn?

Exilon · Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:22 am

I need to take a look at his iso carefully to get an indepth analysis, but

So far he's felt townish to me. Even some things that were pointed out at him, I felt didn't hold much ground. At the very least, lynching him now feels like it would put town a step behind in this game.
Regardless, he's been powering and plowing through, 0 craps given in the good sense. Being able to get people to step out of their comfort zone (putting it mildly) is always a good thing in mafia.

skitter30 · Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:24 am

i'm kinda getting the vibe that the chaos he's inducing is intentional

Exilon · Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:27 am

In post 1098, Exilon wrote:I thought your frustration felt genuine then, and I thought it seemed townie in the sense you were feeling scum were managing to get to you and you feeling powerless vs it

which is why I directed my questions towards that

Now when digging a bit deeper there's inconsistencies that I just can't seem to get past because they seem to go against my understanding of your motivations. Especially in regards to what you see as your meta. First off, your words point to another thing as the cause of the frustration (...), which immediately smashes the town read I had.

Then your actions, and your reactions, don't seem to line up with what you're saying about yourself. This disconnect isn't inherently scummy. Rather, it's how you're wording it, and how you place your awareness of it, that betrays you. Your words sound far more confident about the whole process than what the game has shown so far, and even what you yourself say or do in other occasions.

I can explain further and give one or two examples. That's the gist of it.

this is the summary of how I feel on Cinn and that I would like to get an outside perspective on

I'll try to get some specific examples, but it's all very bird-eyed view, so it isn't specifically one or two posts that give me that feeling, rather all posts as a whole.

Exilon · Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:27 am

In post 1415, skitter30 wrote:i'm kinda getting the vibe that the chaos he's inducing is intentional

quite obviously.
is it scummy?

skitter30 · Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:29 am

yeah, i saw that post - can you pull out one or two examples?
i'm not sure i agree with this in a general sense without seeing one

like i think they're p cog-dis-y but i'm not sure that's actually scummy or scum indicative really

skitter30 · Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:30 am

In post 1417, Exilon wrote:
In post 1415, skitter30 wrote:i'm kinda getting the vibe that the chaos he's inducing is intentional
quite obviously.
is it scummy?

he's screwing up the gamestaet
is aware that he's screwing up the gamestate
and is doing it anyways
so yeah, i think so

Exilon · Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:30 am

I will say however that one thing that sita extremely terribly with me is seeing him considering a pisskop lynch.
I don't think he sees it as a realitic possibility and it's more likely to come from scum than town.

skitter30 · Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:31 am

yeah he seems to be implying he has mechanical reasons to tr pk, or at the very least, believe the claim is true
so backing off of that now feels a little icky

Exilon · Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:34 am

In post 1419, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1417, Exilon wrote:
In post 1415, skitter30 wrote:i'm kinda getting the vibe that the chaos he's inducing is intentional
quite obviously.
is it scummy?
he's screwing up the gamestaet
is aware that he's screwing up the gamestate
and is doing it anyways
so yeah, i think so

Like i get this but i really don't see scum gaining with it.
There's people who have also screwed woth the gamestate, much more royally than he did,and we didn't ecen get much info from it. He on the other hand is causing chaos that imo very clearly benefits town.
This is how i view it.

Exilon · Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:36 am

In post 1421, skitter30 wrote:yeah he seems to be implying he has mechanical reasons to tr pk, or at the very least, believe the claim is true
so backing off of that now feels a little icky

It goes further than that. There are a few other reasons to not lynch pk aa you know.
He knows them too.
So even if you didn't have any reason to mechanically suspect the claim is likely, you don't consider it a lynch.

skitter30 · Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:37 am

i disagree that it very clearly benefits town
he's using it to:

a) set the agenda to be what *he* wants it to be
b) interfere and interrupt other people's posting
c) making it hard for other people to keep up (at least for me, coming back to the thread and seeing multiple pages of spam kinda makes it hard for met to get back in the game)