Open 762: CK9++ [Over!]

[gobbledygook]

Sakura town
Gamma probably town. To answer your earlier question Gamma, I only played a few games with Ranmaru.

I think Implosion might have been killed by a scum team that was mason hunting. It is possible they saw Implosion's strong defense of Phil as a mason defending his other mason.

What gives you that read on Gamma?

I find most of his iso to be scumhunting something and trying to apply pressure. That said, no one answered if he just sheeps all his votes which is what he’s been doing this game. No one corrected me either, including Gamma, which I found strange.

[Sakura Hana]

It’s gobble, James, and Persivul

Ah yes, you probably wouldn't know since you never caught up, but James entered the game with a "I'm not gonna participate in RVS" mindset, drew a lot of attention to himself, to get us out of RVS (or that's how i interpret it anyway?), pretty similar to what you did here, i think.

[gobbledygook]

Maybe drew’s a partner

Or trying to go against the grain for town cred if Drew flips town.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. You want to amend your statement about this not being a tunnel?

[gobbledygook]

Today he is mad at me for pulling off the Drew wagon, but he votes Pers and doesnt pursue Drew at even even though there was Hanas gambit to evaluate.

I did evaluate it. I thought Drew made good points about you, which caused me to be completely disoriented about you and Drew when I felt sure yesterday. I said as much as soon as I came into the thread in 1056.

[gobbledygook]

After looking at the setup, maybe Chemist is town. If we have a Neapolitan or a Gunsmith, then he is automatically confScum though.

[James Brafin]

Drew, Gob

Then the last one is Gamma, Persivul, or Brafin.

Skygazer’s entrance just gut pings me as town.

Why me, exactly?

[James Brafin]

I’m not sure how I feel about Rick. I need to get to a computer and reread this entire day.
Still think there’s scum in Drew/Gob, though I have a hard time believing they’re a scumteam.
Pers I’ve been kinda ignoring. He strikes me as the kind of guy who just screws around as either alignment. I need to ISO him though.

[Korina]

VOTE COUNT 2.5

Doctor Drew (4, L-2!):

Formerfish, Sakura Hana, Gamma Emerald, James Brafin

gobbledygook (1):

Rick Dalton

Persivul (1):

gobbledygook

Formerfish (0):

Spangled (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

Skygazer (0):

James Brafin (0):

Sakura Hana (0):

Chemist1422 (0):

Rick Dalton (0):

No-Lynch (0):

Not Voting (5):

Spangled, Skygazer, Chemist1422, Persivul, Doctor Drew
With

11

alive, it takes

6

to lynch.

(expired on 2019-08-13 00:35:00) remain in the day.

Mod Notes

:
- Remember: Flavor is just flavor. Don't use it to make arguments.
- Persivul is V/LA until Sunday, August 4th, 2019.
- Chemist1422 is V/LA until Thursday, August 8th, 2019.

- Sakura Hana has caught a cold, and their activity will be lessened.
- Rick Dalton felt like watching a movie, and their activity will be lessened.

[Formerfish]

Drew, Gob

Then the last one is Gamma, Persivul, or Brafin.

Skygazer’s entrance just gut pings me as town.

Why me, exactly?

Anyone know what goes with "why me?"

[Sakura Hana]

Drew, Gob

Then the last one is Gamma, Persivul, or Brafin.

Skygazer’s entrance just gut pings me as town.

Why me, exactly?

Anyone know what goes with "why me?"

i dunno, something about a frying pan.
Oh yeah fry me.

[Skygazer]

James is fencesitting in a lot of his posts; using language such as "ping" and "not sure" a *lot*

I went back and realized he copy and pastes the toxicity thing and the random question thing in all of his games.

I'm going to look at his completed games and see how much he uses non-committal language there compared to here.

[Sakura Hana]

I went back and realized he copy and pastes the toxicity thing and the random question thing in all of his games.

This is important info methinks.
Which means the thing i thought was towny may actually be NAI

[Skygazer]

Ok, Doctor feels worse and worse here. So does Rick.
Liking Sakura more and more here. She's actively scumhunting with this gambit instead of letting it lie. Same with Formerfish.
The Turkey I'm not sure about. He pings me in a non-aggressive sort of way.
Chemist, I have no idea about. It's a legit claim I guess, but it makes me uncomfortable.

posts like this i really don't like

vague language; soft language (pings); noncommittal language;

the chemist shade at the end makes no sense, why feel the need to mention it makes him uncomfy when he's recognizing it's a legit claim?

[Skygazer]

Spangled, what is YOUR opinion on all of this? As an IC you’re probably the only trustworthy person here.

feels buddying; considering spangled wasn't nightkilled, they probably don't feel threatened by them at the moment, either.

[Skygazer]

...I’m not sure how I feel about Rick...
... though I have a hard time believing ...
... Pers I’ve been kinda ignoring ... I need to ISO him though...

...I’ll prob have some comments/questions/concerns...
...Something about this exchange is seriously pinging me...

...I feel like this is odd...

...This pings me...

examples of noncommittal language

[James Brafin]

I’m trying to not hard-tunnel everyone here, like I did yesterday, which ended up resulting in a mislynch.
I’m not sure I understand how giving others the benefit of the doubt is bad. Once I vote, I tend to not move it unless I get really convincing reasons otherwise. So a vote is a full commitment for me, and I’d rather NOT fully commit to a wagon unless we’re at a point where I’m certain beyond any reasonable doubt they are scum. Sue me.

[Skygazer]

To me, it reads like you don't want to make any hard commitments to reads. The only player you've strongly pushed today is a player that's already under a ton of pressure. You did a quote-wall thing to justify placing them at L-2. Everyone else has been getting reads like "they look better and better" or "they look worse and worse" or vague language such as "they're pinging me" or conflicting shades such as "I believe chemist's claim but it doesn't sit right with me." It doesn't feel like you're actually sorting; it feels like you're making pushes that you feel comfortable making and trying not to make pushes against players that might give you some pushback. You've shaded Rick but didn't pursue it. You shaded Sakura and retracted it for vague reasoning before placing her as town. You shaded implosion D1 but didn't pursue it! It feels like you're afraid of pushing the stronger players here and going for those that are more lynchable.

VOTE: James

[Rick Dalton]

I’m not sure how I feel about Rick. I need to get to a computer and reread this entire day.
Still think there’s scum in Drew/Gob, though I have a hard time believing they’re a scumteam.
Pers I’ve been kinda ignoring. He strikes me as the kind of guy who just screws around as either alignment. I need to ISO him though.

Bus a buddy, vote a townie; Classic.

[Rick Dalton]

One of James/Sky is likely scum

[James Brafin]

Not gonna change my play style because you think I’m being too cautious.
I will go look at your ISO since I’m pretty sure this is the first time you’ve actually contributed anything meaningful and it’s a crap push.
But when you phone-post 95%, it’s a little hard to do anything but skim and try to keep up. I’m doing my best to stay with it but I’m moving into my dorm in literally 11 days and I’m super busy rn. I’m at my best when I can review the game and make large ISO’s, but that’s tough to do from a tiny screen, and makes me wary of my own reads. I may be picking up on things that aren’t actually there and/or missing critical information (like the fact that the push on Fish was a GAMBIT), or missing subtle player cues.
So please, keep pushing.

[Chemist1422]

One of James/Sky is likely scum

from the point of view of someone who has not read the thread this is a wolfy post

it's trying to set up an associative based on a conflict in the thread that has no basis for not being v/v

[Gamma Emerald]

Drew, Gob

Then the last one is Gamma, Persivul, or Brafin.

Skygazer’s entrance just gut pings me as town.

I think I can accept this solve
Also VOTE: Drew

[Sakura Hana]

I think that's L-1

[Gamma Emerald]

Glancing at the setup's wiki page, 1-shot tracker is also a pretty hard claim for scum to make given that you would need the setup to be have only one I to not be in a counterclaim situation down the road.

Chem is probably town.

Oh...?

[Korina]

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