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Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:35 am
by Baezu Leaf
Why do I have this ominous feeling that if the bandits get the loot then they win and the rest of town loses?

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:38 am
by gobbledygook
Because that seems dumb and like a 3P faction

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:07 am
by Pine
In post 1400, Baezu Leaf wrote:Why do I have this ominous feeling that if the bandits get the loot then they win and the rest of town loses?
We don’t.

It says right in the ruleset that players have an objective in addition to their factional wincon. We still have to eliminate scum.

Help us get the Crown Jewel and we become relentless scum terminators

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:48 am
by 123456789
In post 1330, Menalque wrote:Could the solve be as simple as just all the bandits are scum?
I doubt it tbh. I think they're town despite their outrageousness.
In post 1336, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1333, Skygazer wrote:@skitter i don't have any bp-like qualities
hmmmm
so why is aro bp against vig shots? i feel like your roles are meant to be symmetric?

do you reads btw ?
It's very possible ARO faked it. Why? I have no idea.
In post 1373, gobbledygook wrote:Wouldn’t it be funny if even though a faction won, no one satisfied their alt wincon.
It would be unfortunate actually.

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:53 am
by 123456789
In post 1378, Elements wrote:Numbers, do you have the crown jewels?
My role PM doesn't explicitly state anything about a crown jewel, but from a flavor standpoint, it makes sense.
In post 1379, Elements wrote:Lynch numbers - If town we lynch Pine
- If scum lynch CF

Lynch Pine - If Sum we lynch PP - presumably game
- If town PP is now immortal IC

That's 2 days so 4 deaths, worst case scenario numbers and pine are both town in which case we have an immortal IC in a 6v2 situation.
But then I would lose regardless..... I would willingly offer myself up on Day 4 when I had achieved my alternate win con, but no sooner.

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:57 am
by 123456789
My Super Loved becomes Loved then normal for each day that I reach the normal lynching threshold.

Even if a vig shoots town once, worst case scenario is we arrive at 7 players day 4 with me being scum and the other scum. Assuming neither my scumbuddy and me refuse to vote myself, that means y'all have the needed 5 votes to lynch me then.

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:58 am
by skitter30
Didnt you say your bp was conditional?
What's the conditions?

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:58 am
by 123456789
Let's stick to gobble's plan. We lynch Channel today then one of {Sky, ARO} tomorrow. Y'all can then lynch me on Day 4.

pedit: No I did not. ARO did.

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:01 am
by skitter30
Is there a way to satisfy all of these altwincons?

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:03 am
by Baezu
Is there any scenario where we would actually have enough votes to lynch you on D4

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:04 am
by 123456789
In post 1405, 123456789 wrote:My Super Loved becomes Loved then normal for each day that I reach the normal lynching threshold.

Even if a vig shoots town once, worst case scenario is we arrive at 7 players day 4 with me being scum and the other scum. Assuming neither my scumbuddy and me refuse to vote myself, that means y'all have the needed 5 votes to lynch me then.
It requires everyone that is town aligned day 4 in the worst case scenario, but yes.

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:05 am
by gobbledygook
In post 1408, skitter30 wrote:Is there a way to satisfy all of these altwincons?
Some of them appear to be explicitly against one another.

Whisperers and the Prophets are against one another
Empress and the bandits are against one another
CF and Deb/BL against one another

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:05 am
by Baezu
Ok I’ll lay out the wincons for everyone in a bit...I think we can maximize win conditions for everyone

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:10 am
by gobbledygook
I believe I did that already with the only change being Pine and PP have to get strung up at some point

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:17 am
by Pine
In post 1413, gobbledygook wrote:I believe I did that already with the only change being Pine and PP have to get strung up at some point
One or the other, but we’re okay with that

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:21 am
by PenguinPower
In post 1414, Pine wrote:
In post 1413, gobbledygook wrote:I believe I did that already with the only change being Pine and PP have to get strung up at some point
One or the other, but we’re okay with that
+1

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:59 am
by gobbledygook
Alright. Let’s get crackalackin

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:13 am
by Elements
VOTE: numbers

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:32 am
by Pine
Choooo choooo

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:30 am
by gobbledygook
All aboard!

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:07 pm
by Menalque
VOTE: numbers

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:05 pm
by Channel Fireball
VOTE: numbers

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:11 pm
by Errantparabola
vote count 2.8


123456789
(6): PenguinPower, Dr Easy Bake, gobbledygook, Elements, Menalque, Channel Fireball
Channel Fireball
(3): Baezu Leaf, skitter30, 123456789
Acute Right Obtuse
(1): Skygazer
Skygazer
(1): Acute Right Obtuse

Not Voting
(1): Pine

prodding dr easy bake
7 majority.
(expired on 2019-08-22 09:06:00)

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:27 pm
by Skygazer
hammer time
VOTE: 123456789

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:36 pm
by PenguinPower
wtf did you do that?