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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:42 pm
by skitter30
In post 1390, Alisae wrote:if you really know how to setup spec
you figure out the setup when luca claims macho neapolitan
We mostly did tbh

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:43 pm
by Alisae
if you doc someone
unless your protection gets bypassed
they will be alive the next day

pedit: I like doctor more because of how simple it is.

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:43 pm
by Alisae
In post 1400, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1390, Alisae wrote:if you really know how to setup spec
you figure out the setup when luca claims macho neapolitan
We mostly did tbh
what I mean by that is you likely figure out that im the protective

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:44 pm
by Alduskkel
In post 1401, Alisae wrote:if you doc someone
unless your protection gets bypassed
they will be alive the next day

pedit: I like doctor more because of how simple it is.
the problem with doctors is they have to target the same person the scum plans on killing that night

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:44 pm
by nomnomnom
In post 1402, Alisae wrote:
In post 1400, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1390, Alisae wrote:if you really know how to setup spec
you figure out the setup when luca claims macho neapolitan
We mostly did tbh
what I mean by that is you likely figure out that im the protective
Honestly unsure I would have figured that one out, but your confirmed town status as a neighbor would have confirmed your death eventually more or less.

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:44 pm
by Alisae
In post 1403, Alduskkel wrote:
In post 1401, Alisae wrote:if you doc someone
unless your protection gets bypassed
they will be alive the next day

pedit: I like doctor more because of how simple it is.
the problem with doctors is they have to target the same person the scum plans on killing that night
you do not need to stop a kill as a doctor.

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:46 pm
by Alduskkel
In post 1405, Alisae wrote:
In post 1403, Alduskkel wrote:you do not need to stop a kill as a doctor.
explain

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:46 pm
by Alduskkel
woop i fucked up the quotes

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:47 pm
by Chemist1422
if you target someone as doc there's no way they can die (barring strongman/roleblock)

the threat of doc stopping the kill is usually enough

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:47 pm
by Alisae
In post 1408, Chemist1422 wrote:if you target someone as doc there's no way they can die (barring strongman/roleblock)

the threat of doc stopping the kill is usually enough
^^^^^^^^^

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:50 pm
by Chemist1422
I like jailkeeper better because it's more versatile

Might just be because my style usually tends to leave me alive in endgame but I think it's a lot better than doctor then

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:50 pm
by Alduskkel
In post 1409, Alisae wrote:
In post 1408, Chemist1422 wrote:if you target someone as doc there's no way they can die (barring strongman/roleblock)

the threat of doc stopping the kill is usually enough
^^^^^^^^^
is that true in a closed setup though?

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:51 pm
by Alisae
Protecting to stop a kill with the intent to stop a kill, will never save a kill, because you're overthinking it.

Think about it this way

Yes, the wifom game does get created
and the best way to play that as a doctor is to ask yourself some questions
Is the person I am currently protecting likely to be a threat to the scumteam?
Is the person I am currently protecting someone I want to be alive.

In AvP, I took the game out of MyLo w/ a successful protect.
Instead of protecting Conftown, who was rather useless and wasn't doing anything, I decided to protect duckie, who was doing things, had obvtowned himself, and was a threat.

I stopped the game and pulled the game out of MyLo

now granted we still lost, it was still a very close game.

pedit: Yes its true all of the time.

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:55 pm
by Alduskkel
I mean kudos for the good play, but that sounds like an extreme case scenario. Doctors often don't even get the opportunity to boost the town's game that much.

I also think it might be worth distinguishing between the power of a Doctor vs the power of their
possibly being
a Doctor.

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:56 pm
by Alduskkel
there*
I swear I never make this mistake except apparently today

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:56 pm
by Alisae
i think if ur a doc, just keep your action simple
protect who you think is a threat to the scumteam as well as who you want to be alive during the next day phase

that'll take you a long long way and it took me 3 years to come to this realization

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:57 pm
by Alisae
If conftown isn't doing anything, do they really deserve to be protected because they're conftown?

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:57 pm
by nomnomnom
Who needs logic when you have intuition

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:57 pm
by Alisae
even after 1 or 2 shots where you realized that the scumteam aren't interested in shooting the conftown?

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:59 pm
by Alduskkel
yeah doctor's a good role but have you considered limited bulletproof innocent child neighbor tracker? :P

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:00 pm
by Alisae
In post 1419, Alduskkel wrote:yeah doctor's a good role but have you considered limited bulletproof innocent child neighbor tracker? :P
that role is only good if that person knows how to play the part of conftown.

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:00 pm
by skitter30
In post 1384, Alduskkel wrote:When did you and skitter start "planning" for you to be lynched Day 1? If their hadn't been two claimed PRs, would you have played differently since it could have been an autoloss (depending on PRs)?
I voted her and while i was voting her the wagon became too strong for me to really unvote so at that point we just super commited to the bus

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:01 pm
by Alisae
And well
you won that game
so I think you played it well :good:

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:01 pm
by Alduskkel
In post 1420, Alisae wrote:
In post 1419, Alduskkel wrote:yeah doctor's a good role but have you considered limited bulletproof innocent child neighbor tracker? :P
that role is only good if that person knows how to play the part of conftown.
is this a way of saying I played bad :shifty:

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:02 pm
by skitter30
Also sorry for being super absent, i had a lot of vla over the last couple of weeks