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Alch would you vote norwe rather than peter if we collectively decided so?

I would.

How confident you're on Peter/Norwe respectively?

In post 1386, Alchemist21 wrote:Right now we have the opposite reads of each other and we need to fix that. Why don’t you think Peter is scum?

I guess b/c im in a similar boat and agree with his 1358 and I DON'T agree with your 1368. So Saunde has 130 posts. In fairness, I've been mad skimming him b/c he's annoying as fuck but from what I remember he seems devoid of content. I mean maybe when I reread him I'll find something but its not like scum are somehow incapable of throwing up 130 posts.

My only niggle about Pan has been his like when he didn't think it was scummy as fuck that pop was calling me scum but treating me as town. Although no one else seemed to agree with that point anyways so *shrug*. I asked you why he was scum and all u said was that you had caught him d1. I was not impressed.

In post 1062, popopopopopopo wrote:churros is posting so fucking much it makes reading this game such a damn chore. i literally have 10 pages left and im so damn sick of him. he's taken over town so heavily and drowning almost everything out. if hes not scum this playstlye is EXTREMELY anti-town

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am I...?

In post 1404, Churros wrote:...

am I...?

No.

Peter had the kind of fake entrance that comes from scum who wants to fit in. When I told people early on to vote Peter, do you know what his response was? “Ok boomer.” That might seem like just a meme to you but that’s actually the kind of dismissive post scum gives when someone has a correct read on them but thinks the person scumreading them doesn’t have a case.

Nero I have a way above average record of finding scum early based on those kinds of posts which is kinda frustrating because they’re the hardest posts to convince people on because if they just don’t see the emotional nuances in those posts then they just don’t believe I’m right.

In post 1401, Alchemist21 wrote:I would.

In post 1402, Churros wrote:How confident you're on Peter/Norwe respectively?

More confident on Peter than Norwegian

In post 1406, Alchemist21 wrote:Peter had the kind of fake entrance that comes from scum who wants to fit in. When I told people early on to vote Peter, do you know what his response was? “Ok boomer.” That might seem like just a meme to you but that’s actually the kind of dismissive post scum gives when someone has a correct read on them but thinks the person scumreading them doesn’t have a case.

This is much more convincing then your earlier posts on the topic.

[Popop, Zantetsu, Nero]
[Fire, Luna] - null
[Peter, Saudade]
[Norwe, Alchemist, Profi]

I did ISO/re:read a bit everyone again. I...am ready to bet the game that there's probably no scum in my null/town lean piles, and if there's, it's probably exactly one in my null. But I feel they may be all town and it's a matter of picking the correct lynches now.

In post 1406, Alchemist21 wrote:Peter had the kind of fake entrance that comes from scum who wants to fit in. When I told people early on to vote Peter, do you know what his response was? “Ok boomer.” That might seem like just a meme to you but that’s actually the kind of dismissive post scum gives when someone has a correct read on them but thinks the person scumreading them doesn’t have a case.

I don't know if i fully agree on this. I've had many moments where someone puts out a bad case on me when i'm town and i dismiss them with a joking comment because the case is so unconvincing it doesn't need any further comment, or i do not trust that person to begin with and someone/i have a much better case on someone else.

If you believed Peter Pan to be scummy because of this reason, why didn't you mention it earlier?

@Churros Why did you scumread me again?

Because I didn’t expect people to get it. Nobody ever does. It’s actually nice to see Zantetsu saying he gets it.

In post 1393, Nero Cain wrote:Who would you lynch if profii doesn't happen?

Peter Pan, Saudade, and Norwegian, in that order of preference.

Popop reaction on me or Jake wagon is probably town, I don't see mafia overreact to that extent very often. I can see me being wrong on him but...I'll default as town.

Zantetsu solving is been...genuine and his frustation seems genuine, like asking fire to replace out. Zantetsu is a strong scum player, there's a possibility it's all fake, but that's the best I could muster in the slot. There's other slots demanding more attention.

Nero feels linear with his popop thing, but his reaction to Jake and general posting seems to come from someone that believes what they are saying. He doesn't feel very engaged in the game but doesn't feel disengaged either.

Fire is been doing his own thing, he doesn't have much but neither does have little content. He may be playing a good scum game but I'll default him in my nulls until more flips. I feel he's a bit more likely to be town than scum considering gamestate as well.

Luna is someone I've trouble with their posts, but overall she's playing a bit harder than what I would expect from scum!her. But like I said, maybe one of Fire/Luna may be scum, but I feel it's less likely than the team being all below the null line.

I would like for us as a whole to focus on [Peter, Saudade, Norwe, Alchemist, Profi]

It's more or less the consensus suspects anyway.

In post 1411, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@Churros Why did you scumread me again?

I don't get good vibes from your post

I don't often have very logical reads on you, it's mostly a "feeling" thingy.

I don't feel your posts d1 were..."genuine" I guess?

They felt fake.

Vigilante. If you exist at all, you always shoot profi tonight if he's not lynched today.

Do us this favor.

Just from personal experience as scum I think that if I was in Peter's place I would have made a similar dismissive response to Alchemist's initial read. I wouldn't have said 'ok boomer', but I think my tone would have been equally dismissive.

Also it bugs me that Peter acted all "well I guess I'm gonna be lynched here is my super towny final post now, I'm ready to roll over and die, isn't that towny of me?"

And he said this which bugged me:

"I liked profii's contributions earlier, but am unimpressed recently (but I just got prodded too so w.e)"

If profii is scum this reads a lot like a scum!Peter waffling on how to read his buddy.

I didn't mention it because it requires profii to be scum for it to be relevant but since I personally think profii is scum it holds some weight with me.

I give up.

If Peter flips town then I was right and if I'm wrong and Peter flips scum then I'm just closer to my wincon. win-win 4 me!

In post 1414, Churros wrote:Nero feels linear with his popop thing, but his reaction to Jake and general posting seems to come from someone that believes what they are saying. He doesn't feel very engaged in the game but doesn't feel disengaged either.

Wait how is that any different from me?

im understanding the case on Peter now, sorry for being dumb. Lets lynch this scumbag.

VOTE: peter pan

At the moment I'm considering the following universes: (80% or higher chances this is one of them)

1) I was rolebocked by mafia
2) I was jailed by townie
3) Alch was jailed by townie

Alternatively Alch is lying, is ascestic, therefore scum. But that's going to be more clear in the massclaim.

There's many branches in how to view this, especially when we don't know if we've a vigilante or not, but:

1) If Alch was the nightkill target, and Elems the vigilante shot, it's weird. It means my secondary reads yesterday (profi/Norwe) were mostly likely wrong.

2) If Elems is the nightkill target, I feel I'm probably wrong on Norwe/Profi. It makes plenty of sense for scum!Alch to do that shot as well, because I was town reading him yesterday.

3) I may have been the nightkill target, and Elems the vigilante shot. I feel if it's this case, I'm most likely right on Norwe/Profi.

In post 1419, Alchemist21 wrote:

In post 1414, Churros wrote:Nero feels linear with his popop thing, but his reaction to Jake and general posting seems to come from someone that believes what they are saying. He doesn't feel very engaged in the game but doesn't feel disengaged either.

Wait how is that any different from me?

His posts vibe/focus are different.

Who would vigilante kill Elements though...such a weird shot.

If it's a vigilante at all, it's probably something that thinks about religiously playing theoretical vigilante and shooting the least active slots.

If it was the nightkill and there's no vigilante, one of Peter/Alch is scum, I'm very confident.

In post 1421, Churros wrote:3) Alch was jailed by townie

Why do people keep mixing up Jailkeeper with Alien.

VOTE: Peter