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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:43 pm

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In post 1235, innocentvillager wrote:im not sure how i feel about you flipping on me so easily, was my scumgame in 2160 really that devoid of reads/analysis? (lmao if that's what you thought it was that's fine)
you had reads but you outsourced any nuance/read depth and I feel like your thoughts here are actually your own, not recycled. Lilith is a bit more anxious that I just suck at reading you (maybe she's right!) but you feel different here.
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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:46 pm

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In post 1236, innocentvillager wrote:to be clear when you say scum!me would be "struggling to play this way", yes I believe you're totally on point with that but I also think scum!me will struggle, which is what you saw in 2160, which is why I'm wondering why you're evaluating my slot this way. sorry im not very eloquent

also i am almost entirely playing this game by myself aorn, Sirius and Ico are definitely not following my game and ive only been asking Gypyx to help me make the occasional ISO.
I don't need to pocket you so I don't need a reason you'll believe. :P I think I have a better metric for reading modern-IV than I did in 2160. by old meta you were easy because you clearly didn't care much for scumming.
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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:47 pm

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In post 1239, DrippingGoofball wrote:Hmm IV is causing me to waver in my Ythan scumread. I see what IV is,seeing. I have to think about this.
what's your experience with ythan? I see what IV is seeing too but given my impression of Ythan's personality I'd be pretty surprised if he didn't feel relaxed as scum

that's not even to say I particularly scumread him, I actually kind of also think he reads town but I'm sweatin
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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:47 pm

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In post 1246, unwnd wrote:VOTE: Hopkirk

You guys don't know it yet, but this has been scum all along
but that's my fav townread >:
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:53 pm

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In post 1294, DrippingGoofball wrote:That bout of rage reeks of rabid scum.
reeeeeks


It reeks of rabid, not sure if scum

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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:55 pm

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In post 1300, unwnd wrote:The read is absolutely true though, I just wasn't satisfied naked voting though
this makes a lot of sense - I don't feel like pushing Hopkirk is like a sensible thing for you to just randomly decide to do as scum there but your reasoning didn't feel like it was explained in a congruent/sense-making way.

We have time and I don't think anyone feels super urgent about sorting Hopkirk. Drop your case when you can - worst case scenario he's sorted later in the game when it's more pressing.
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:58 pm

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In post 1304, DrippingGoofball wrote:We can discuss whether the anger came from a scum place or a town place until sundown without coming to an agreement.

But to me, it sounds pretty scummy because it's missing all the townie soundbites that I would have vomited all over the disagreement.
what would you expect from a townie in Hopkirk's shoes that was missing? we're probably looking for something fairly intangible but I'd be interested in getting some of your brain thoughts.

given I don't really think unwnd was pushing anything that would make scum!Kirk sweat I'm kind of surprised he got so angry about it. if I were scum and someone pushed me so ineffectively at that point I would be throwing a party in the scum pt.
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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:02 pm

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In post 1350, Hopkirk wrote:i was townreading unwnd until today and i'm voting them without necessarily scumreading them right now. i want to review that slot. i'm very concerned with their team as much as i am with the slot right now.
what about their team dynamic actually concerns you?
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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:04 pm

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In post 1366, OkaPoka wrote:okay so let's form the read unwnd committee

dunnstral, titus, innocent villager are the members of this committee
if you let me in I'll reveal my fairly strong unwnd read :(
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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:06 pm

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In post 1378, unwnd wrote:Yeah my townlist looks like

Ceph
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Hercule
(A50)
the only one here that makes my gut sink is ABR - why?
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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:07 pm

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okay duck you are in but on the condition you invite one more person to the unwnd committee so its an odd number
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:08 pm

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In post 1409, the worst wrote:
In post 1378, unwnd wrote:Yeah my townlist looks like

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the only one here that makes my gut sink is ABR - why?
possibly because it's a surprising inclusion
i was surprised, anyway
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:08 pm

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also duck... ive noticed you have decided to skip over the attempted formation of a townbloc in your catchup

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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:08 pm

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In post 1402, the worst wrote:
In post 1239, DrippingGoofball wrote:Hmm IV is causing me to waver in my Ythan scumread. I see what IV is,seeing. I have to think about this.
what's your experience with ythan? I see what IV is seeing too but given my impression of Ythan's personality I'd be pretty surprised if he didn't feel relaxed as scum

that's not even to say I particularly scumread him, I actually kind of also think he reads town but I'm sweatin
I haven't played with Ythan in a long time, so whatever experience I had is probably a tad rancid by now.
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:09 pm

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In post 1412, OkaPoka wrote:also duck... ive noticed you have decided to skip over the attempted formation of a townbloc in your catchup

what are thy thoughts
I wasn't paying much attention to it other than the hopkirk/unwnd lols - who else was in it?
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:10 pm

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In post 1404, the worst wrote:
In post 1294, DrippingGoofball wrote:That bout of rage reeks of rabid scum.
reeeeeks


It reeks of rabid, not sure if scum

max of 1 scum in hopkirk/unwnd
If they gladiate I'll vote Hopkirk over unwind.

Maybe Hopkirk has a temper tho
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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:10 pm

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VOTE: xtoxm unspicy vote for a spicy reason
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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:10 pm

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In post 1409, the worst wrote:
In post 1378, unwnd wrote:Yeah my townlist looks like

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Oka
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(A50)
the only one here that makes my gut sink is ABR - why?
I'm not on the list, that's suspicious to me :lol:
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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:11 pm

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VOTE: Xtomxm
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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:12 pm

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Yeah, Hopkirk is scum a fair while before unwnd. That team dynamic blonde moment is an explicit town indicator and I am a touch nervous about the way Hopkirk defaulted to how it looked bad, rather than try to parse the mindset alignment it came from.
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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:12 pm

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In post 1414, the worst wrote:
In post 1412, OkaPoka wrote:also duck... ive noticed you have decided to skip over the attempted formation of a townbloc in your catchup

what are thy thoughts
I wasn't paying much attention to it other than the hopkirk/unwnd lols - who else was in it?
me hercule hopkirk unwnd ceph
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:20 pm

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In post 1420, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 1414, the worst wrote:
In post 1412, OkaPoka wrote:also duck... ive noticed you have decided to skip over the attempted formation of a townbloc in your catchup

what are thy thoughts
I wasn't paying much attention to it other than the hopkirk/unwnd lols - who else was in it?
me hercule hopkirk unwnd ceph
This is like, the core of players I'm giving a D1 pass but not my towncore, lol, it's fine though. unwnd is one of my absurdly strong townreads.

I feel like the gimmick of towncores is that they're super cute when they're formed but everyone forgets about them when actual important mechanical information happens and on that basis I think this is pretty allowable, please add IV and consider DGB
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:21 pm

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well the next step of my towncore is when we enforce the hastert rule
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:22 pm

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I had to google that and I threw up in my mouth a little (in the good way)
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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:23 pm

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the idea for today i hope is if us 5 hold at least 4 town indubitably, we need to find the next 5 towniest player who will agree to the conditions of voting off someone using the majority of the majority rule

should spice things up tbh
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