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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:58 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1338, Dwlee99 wrote: In post 1256, Dwlee99 wrote:How about this: max's day one ISO has content on a variety of slots, but almost all of it is extremely surface level except for her read on omo.
439 and
466 have depth, but posts like
457 are more like active lurking than really solving.
Did you miss this post?
I owe you this and one other response which is incoming before I forget.
I think it’s a start. I am just not sold on Max scum sorry.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:01 pm
by MathBlade
The short version is that much as I reviewed your post is the argument is the ISO is bare and she’s lurking.
So? I don’t know her. I don’t know what she does as town vs scum.
I haven’t seen anything that is anti town other than lurker which fits a ton of people.
Between that and no one chomping on the bit to join you or interact means that scum likely don’t care/don’t want to be seen on the wagon, making her likely town.
Guess you can call it gamestate vibes.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:14 pm
by Dwlee99
Or scum aren't hopping on because she is scum.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:23 pm
by MathBlade
Possible but not probable.
Aiming at a lurker is kinda a dart board in a dozen.
They either A> produce content B> Get replaced or C>Get policy elimmed.
Surely we can do better than a policy elim after getting scum?
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:36 pm
by oʍo
I'm vetoing Salsa.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:36 pm
by Titus
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:37 pm
by oʍo
Sorry but Salsa who shitpushes town me is town salsa. There's just players who have opposite reads on me who I easily fool as scum because I do something different that doesn't trip their scumdar as scum that does somehow as town
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:38 pm
by oʍo
It would be immensely big brain self awareness to figure out who I am before they outted a read on me and then be self aware enough to the point where they are like "oh yeah i usually shitpush this slot as town and have townread scum them let me play to that expectation".
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:39 pm
by oʍo
maybe its not a strong enough reason to townlock them to the end of the game and their slot should be evaluated holistically but I think its a reason enough to not have them bottom PoE here or even in PoE.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:40 pm
by oʍo
In post 1362, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Don't really care that you answered, it's just that I'd say a block is only a block if every member considers every other member a part of it. So for it to be a block including me it cant include you or Math atm, with the doubts I'm having
it just lets me assert my dominance further over players I can easily read as town who can mutually read me back.
>:)
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:43 pm
by oʍo
In post 1349, MathBlade wrote: In post 1345, oʍo wrote: In post 1337, Dwlee99 wrote:Titus is probably final scum with the terrible night visit, scummy play yesterday, and that she is using arbitrary VCA with unflipped slots to push me.
Pedit: Math wtf
"terrible night visit"
see: my post about how titus' role doesn't exist as scum ergo their choices can be whatever they want so analyzing their choice can always be knocked off as a reason.
Okay see this here.
Currently I don’t suspect Titus yet multiple people do.
This means either A> I am wrong and Titus is scum and we should elim her
Or B> I am right and Titus is town and scum are pushing Titus but to shade her not miselim her right now
Why do you say Titus’s role doesn’t exist as scum? A scum babysitter would be pretty novel and I could see her doing a Shadowrun esque type thing here, crumb the truth and people discount it. But that’s more I could make an argument she is scum but I don’t believe it type deal.
my point was the target itself claimed isn't AI because scum!Titus could claim whatever she wants, and if she's scum with a visit, she just goes on whoever she wants to mimic if if she was afraid of a tracker.
its mainly relevant if she flips scum later as spew based on what the roles are.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:44 pm
by oʍo
oh I thought babysitter would be explicitly town only for normals because of what it does but ig that makes sense it can be anti-vig swing lol
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:45 pm
by oʍo
In post 1358, MathBlade wrote:Lunch break is over but will check back later.
If Owo is town I need them to start town telling here because then TvTVT becomes incredibly likely and I start looking in a Titus or a Kyo or Marci elim
i don't like this post.
noting this in my iso in case i need it later.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:49 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1412, oʍo wrote: In post 1358, MathBlade wrote:Lunch break is over but will check back later.
If Owo is town I need them to start town telling here because then TvTVT becomes incredibly likely and I start looking in a Titus or a Kyo or Marci elim
i don't like this post.
noting this in my iso in case i need it later.
Ooh yay I do something Koba doesn’t like. Back to normal. Who hoo!
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:51 pm
by MathBlade
(And for those of you playing the home game I find owo’s reason for vetoing Salsa crap!)
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:03 pm
by oʍo
i don't care, my reads on players who misread me consistently are well above rand correct.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:06 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1415, oʍo wrote:i don't care, my reads on players who misread me consistently are well above rand correct.
Assume this is true.
This makes you me and Salsa town.
Then me and Salsa are mindmelding that there is a deep wolf and we’re both town.
What do you make of that? Is that accurate or are we both mistaken?
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:07 pm
by oʍo
there's only 2 scum left
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:09 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1128, oʍo wrote:Anyways
VOTE: max
Dwlee scum doesnt incite me to hammer their partner there.
Thats a t3 move not a dwlee move
And you’re voting max? Your point?
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:11 pm
by oʍo
yeah why are they town
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:14 pm
by MathBlade
I already explained why I thought she’s town. Do you have a reason she’s scum?
I have provided more reasoning in my flash wagon than you and Dwlee have other than “she’s a lurker”.
I think I am being buddied. If you think I am not then where is the deep wolf?
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:18 pm
by oʍo
Lack of interaction with a scumbud is incriminating, would you not say?
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:19 pm
by oʍo
I mean whatever I don't care, they're not good enough as scum to maintain it to endgame so I'm not too pressed about yall not figuring it out and TBH it'll help us in the longterm if they don't get turbo'd because it'll catch their other scumbud easily.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:21 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1421, oʍo wrote:Lack of interaction with a scumbud is incriminating, would you not say?
Not when it describes like a good chunk of the game.
Like that’s what I don’t get here.
I could pick out a good 3-4 people who are “non interactor”s with DGB why her?
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:25 pm
by oʍo
refer to my most recent post before this one.