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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:32 pm
by fferyllt
Vote Count 2-6
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TIMON:
Fie, thou'rt a churl; ye've got a humour there
Does not become a man: 'tis much to blame.
They say, my lords, 'ira furor brevis est;' but yond
man is ever angry. Go, let him have a table by
himself, for he does neither affect company, nor is
he fit for't, indeed.



Galron
(5): GuiltyLion, Skybird, Pavowski, Cephrir, Dunnstral
Dunnstral
(4): Lady Lambdadelta, Wisdom, Off The Hook, Titus
Off The Hook
(2): Child of Fairies, Lukewarm
Titus
(1): Galron
Wisdom
(1): Yorick

Not Voting
(3): DeasVail, Bowser Jr., Icebox

With 15 alive, it takes 9 to eliminate.



Deadline: November 10, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-11-10 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:33 pm
by Lukewarm
What are you even talking about, I tracked who did what in the posts that I just made
In post 1396, Lukewarm wrote:I would also like to point out that Marci did the exact same with JC (who, regardless of what some of you want to say is 1000% scum). As soon as JC claimed, she chimed in to try and steer away from it.
Marci had no expressed read on JC
,
Gamma had JC as "nullscum,"
but when push came to shove,
she tried to steer away into skybird
In post 1395, Lukewarm wrote:And that quote is coming
from marci, who just expressed a weak scum read on the slot
BEFORE the track guilty came out.
In post 1392, Lukewarm wrote:
I think that Gamma's transition
to "Dunn has been consistently scummy" when the slot has not expressed a scum read on them a single point before now, right when they likely need to transition away from the potential guilty on their buddy, and dunn is the person who most recently had some thread momentum in his direction is hella sus, and also looks partnery between OTH and the person that likely has a guilty on them now.

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:39 pm
by Off The Hook
How about you think about what the fuck us having our reads be so fucking gnarled accomplishes for scum!us? We’ve basically got our shoelaces tied together, we can’t actually push a real agenda if we’re scum because we can’t come to an agreement on anything and we’re not hamming up our disagreements for cred either really. Let’s say JC actually is scum, by not going harder on the dissonance we basically failed to snag any sort of decent optics for that. You’re being fucking basic, actually turn your brain on or fuck off with pushing us!

-GE

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:41 pm
by GuiltyLion
In post 1397, Off The Hook wrote:Atp it’s starting to come off as willful ignorance (read: scummy behavior)
yeah this is scummy as all heck - do you actually think Luke is scum or not? I'm not here for passive shade without committing to a real scumread

I'm picking up everything Luke is putting down, if there's a solid mechanical argument to not lim Galron then I'd support OTH today but nobody else. Dunn wagon doesn't inspire any good feelings in me at all, I don't see anything he's done as disingenuous or scum-motivated and I think Galron spewed him as town

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:42 pm
by Lukewarm
Like, I saw what you just did with dunn, and I thought it was weird, so I searched back in your iso to see your stances on Dunn. You mentioned Dunn 0 times before your vote, and Marci mentioned him once (to question a scum read on him). And it reminded me of what Marci did day 1 with JC, so I looked back at both of your stances on her throughout the day, and again it looked weird. Marci did not call Juliet town until she was trying to save her, and prior to that you had called her null scum.

So, from my PoV, your actions are not lining up with your reads with respect to the two people that I think are almost certainly scum here.

For JC, you (gamma) had her in null scum and
Marci had never mentioned a read
-- and marci chimed in to save JC when she was in danger.
For Galron, you had galron as a town read and
Marci had galron as a scum lean
-- and marci chimed in to save Galron when he was in danger.

Both look pretty sus for marci,

And then with Dunn, your heretofore unmentioned suspicions on Dunn seemed awfully convenient.

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:47 pm
by Lukewarm
Gamma, I second GL's question. What is your read on me?

1297 calls me scummy, and you also called me scummy day 1, but 1402 reads like you are talking to someone who you think / know is town.

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:48 pm
by Lukewarm
ebwop: 1397

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:53 pm
by Off The Hook
In post 1403, GuiltyLion wrote:yeah this is scummy as all heck - do you actually think Luke is scum or not? I'm not here for passive shade without committing to a real scumread
I absolutely SR Luke and the only reason I’m not calling for his head this second is marci has him as hard town, which is the exact point I’m making here is that I have no real ability to act on
fucking anything
because it’s so damn hard to actually come to an agreement with marci! I’m not trying to be mean about this and I don’t think I’ve crossed a line yet but I feel like something is just off for me when it comes to hydraing rn and having good ability to coalesce reads, and it’s making me feel pretty fucking shitty because I feel like I’m doing something wrong.

-GE

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:55 pm
by Off The Hook
1402 is me trying to make a dent in your fucking skull that you’re not really reading us in good faith at all if you are town

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:55 pm
by Off The Hook
-GE

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:58 pm
by Off The Hook
And GL, you should seriously re-think your approach to hydra reading because IMO we’re playing nothing like goats was in that white flag game.

-GE

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:59 pm
by Bowser Jr.
Imagine shading the most obvious town person in this game.

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:06 pm
by Off The Hook
In post 1393, Lukewarm wrote:Like, here is the last time OTH has mentioned Dunn - and it was to question a scum read on them
In post 892, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 889, WhemeStar wrote:im wiling to vote skybird or dunn
why dunnstral?

~M★
But, when trying to flow with the momentum going in his direction, now they think he has been "consistently scummy" and have apparently just been keeping that to themselves.
:? i dont think the same way as gamma about dunnstral
i still have him as "idk" :good:
gamma did mention dunnstrals scummy before in our chats (hes given reads on a bunch of people in there actually :P) and ur just so tunneled u wont accept looking at things from a diff pov, i honestly think u should be looking elsewhere, elimming me will be like wasting a day :good:
i townread u but its a pain because when u eventually learn that ur hella wrong ull have what as scumreads?
In post 1395, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 1364, Off The Hook wrote:i think having this mindset is not a good thing, i think sometimes coincidences do happen
I also don't think that this is a town thought.

This is not a mechanical "maybe we can eek out a result in case we are wrong" it looks more like,

"lets ignore this double track to two different people who had scum lead actions happen to them, because "coincidences happen""

And that quote is coming from marci, who just expressed a weak scum read on the slot BEFORE the track guilty came out.
:roll: its almost like i quoted a post with the word "coincidentally" in it and wanted to respond to that
In post 1396, Lukewarm wrote:I would also like to point out that Marci did the exact same with JC (who, regardless of what some of you want to say is 1000% scum). As soon as JC claimed, she chimed in to try and steer away from it. Marci had no expressed read on JC, Gamma had JC as "nullscum," but when push came to shove, she tried to steer away into skybird
i dont understand most roles so i just assume claims = good :cry:
"Marci had no expressed read on JC," whats ? keeping in mind juliet claimed in
In post 1404, Lukewarm wrote:Marci did not call Juliet town until she was trying to save her, and prior to that you had called her null scum.
i mostly mention people when i feel like i should defend them, or when i scumread them.
In post 1407, Off The Hook wrote:because it’s so damn hard to actually come to an agreement with marci! I’m not trying to be mean about this and I don’t think I’ve crossed a line yet but I feel like something is just off for me when it comes to hydraing rn and having good ability to coalesce reads, and it’s making me feel pretty fucking shitty because I feel like I’m doing something wrong.

-GE
shhhh its not fully ur fault :cry: im very stubborn on the most random stuff for the most random reasons sometimes
i feel like i should be doing better im sorry im making it so tough for u : - (
i should rlly also be responding more im so sorry i feel so bad now aa

~M★

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:21 pm
by Off The Hook
Actually looking back at another game Luke could absolutely be town but if so he
SERIOUSLY
needs to go back to the drawing board on how he reads me because this is the second time he’s been this confident in me being scum and been just completely fucking wrong.

-GE

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:27 pm
by Bowser Jr.
Which game and what in particular changed your mind?

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:38 pm
by GuiltyLion
In post 1410, Off The Hook wrote:And GL, you should seriously re-think your approach to hydra reading because IMO we’re playing nothing like goats was in that white flag game.

-GE
I'm kinda confused by this post, you remember that I was scum with goats in that game, right?

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:57 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 1387, Titus wrote:VOTE: Dunn

I feel Galron is probably scum, but I agree with the mechanical call more.
Why are you voting for me?

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:04 pm
by DeasVail
I haven't read up properly (even "skimmed" would be generous) but why are we voting Dunn?

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:05 pm
by Off The Hook
In post 1414, Bowser Jr. wrote:Which game and what in particular changed your mind?
Fall of Yakra, me re-reading the way I tried to reconcile with him the fact that he was just wrong about me in that game
In post 1415, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 1410, Off The Hook wrote:And GL, you should seriously re-think your approach to hydra reading because IMO we’re playing nothing like goats was in that white flag game.

-GE
I'm kinda confused by this post, you remember that I was scum with goats in that game, right?
Yeah but my point still stands

anyway I’m probably tuning out for the night, got work tomorrow morning (so I probably won’t be rlly focusing on this game again until that’s over FYI)

-GE

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:33 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 1413, Off The Hook wrote:Actually looking back at another game Luke could absolutely be town but if so he
SERIOUSLY
needs to go back to the drawing board on how he reads me because this is the second time he’s been this confident in me being scum and been just completely fucking wrong.

-GE
Is you read on me based entirely on my read accuracy on you?

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:49 pm
by Lukewarm
Spoiler: Just for fun I have looked back at our games together
Isekai, you were my top scum read - you were scum
(✓)

Nini 2226 you were in my town reads - you were town
(✓)

Mini 2213, you were in my town reads - you were town
(✓)


FGO - you were an IC

Yakra - I scum read you, you were town
(X)


-------

I am not getting the feeling that I need to "SERIOUSLY needs to go back to the drawing board on how I read you" :good: :good:

Even if I end up being wrong this game, I will be at a greater then 50% read accuracy on you

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:21 pm
by Off The Hook
I’m still awake and like, yeah you’ve “read me right” a couple times (you can’t entirely take credit for isekai because Kate hydra did the heavy lifting, also lol you must have been speccing 2226 because I don’t remember I in it) but the game I actually looked at I had a very similar reaction to your pressure on me so I’m guessing it’s similarly motivated, maybe you’re faking it well but I’m not in the mood to push that at all when this game is going full echo chamber telling me I’m wrong
However if I ended up getting talked out of a right SR none of you fuckers are living this down,
especially Spiffeh who’ll be 2 for 2 on being a stupid-ass motherfucker in this regard
.

-GE

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:22 pm
by Off The Hook
Anyway,
GOOD NIGHT
.

-GE

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:49 pm
by GuiltyLion
Gamma you could make this right by just voting obvscum guiltied Galron

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:49 pm
by Cephrir
yeah how dare you have reads tbh