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Bombay could still be scum but I'll tell you what?

I don't think T3 is. I think there are way better fake claims and way more powerful roles he could have claimed and it matching the other chess game and only existing so long as chess does and being a town and town game of back and forth.

Makes sense.

So I'm suspicious of everyone who wants T3 dead.

So you're all good with Rogue claiming that they're the ones who can commute a kill to poison, and yet you were poisoned when they were blocked? And that Mala posted:

In post 1363, Malakittens wrote:Bravoooo

Us being roleblockee by SM more than just killed LLD

Fml

indicating that their action would have had a better outcome for you than the poisoning you ended up with?

I agree on the vote count consideration. Actually want to look back at that again here...

I personally think T3 is town and I think SM is probably town too.

so for me, town block is

Shiro and SM and T3.

If Bombay isn't scum, they'll be a watcher tonight. That should be interesting, so we don't kill there.

Ivan probably town at this point for me, I'm willing to bet my game on it at least.

Leaves me with just: SirCakez/Rogue/Mastina

I think if you kill those 3 the game will not end. Worst case you should be in 3P ELO.

Like, assuming no bonus kills happen, we're at 9 players, 7-2.

So even if 2/3 of Cakez/Rogue/Mastina are town, and only one is scum. And even if we kill the scum last right. Like let's say...

Cakez Town dies 6 town 2 scum
scum shoots 5 town 2 scum
Mastina town dies 4 town 2 scum
scum shoots 3 town 2 scum
Rogue scum dies 3 town 1 scum
scum shoots 2 town 1 scum

So as long as ONE of those 3 is scum, the game should continue. I'm confident that AT LEAST one of those 3 is scum, if not both.

In post 1401, That Idiot Ivan wrote:So you're all good with Rogue claiming that they're the ones who can commute a kill to poison, and yet you were poisoned when they were blocked? And that Mala posted:

In post 1363, Malakittens wrote:Bravoooo

Us being roleblockee by SM more than just killed LLD

Fml

indicating that their action would have had a better outcome for you than the poisoning you ended up with?

I agree on the vote count consideration. Actually want to look back at that again here...

Nah I just did some math. Rogue is on the kill list too.

Cakez today, I don't care which of Rogue or Mastina goes tomorrow as long as you kill BOTH.

In post 1401, That Idiot Ivan wrote:So you're all good with Rogue claiming that they're the ones who can commute a kill to poison, and yet you were poisoned when they were blocked? And that Mala posted:

In post 1363, Malakittens wrote:Bravoooo

Us being roleblockee by SM more than just killed LLD

Fml

indicating that their action would have had a better outcome for you than the poisoning you ended up with?

I agree on the vote count consideration. Actually want to look back at that again here...

Also remember that they cannot be the one who poisoned me. SM roleblocked them last night. Regardless of whatever setup you think is involved in their claim and things they were RB'd last night.

In post 1258, morph the cat wrote:

Suripoko

(4): SirCakez, Rogue, T3,

Shiro

SirCakez (3):

jjh927

, mastina,

Suripoko

mastina (3):

Lady Lambdadelta, That Idiot Ivan, StrangeMatter

Not Voting (1): The Bombay

Red scum, yellow third party, blue unflipped town in my analysis.

I do tend to think that scum came in with a very clear plan to flip Suripoko regardless of what else happened, and they doubled down on that commitment after the parity cop info.

In post 1402, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Cakez Town dies 6 town 2 scum
scum shoots 5 town 2 scum
Mastina town dies 4 town 2 scum
scum shoots 3 town 2 scum
Rogue scum dies 3 town 1 scum
scum shoots 2 town 1 scum

I agree that two of them are scum, and maybe I'm just fussing at it to be pedantic, but you aren't counting yourself dying at the end of the day.

In post 1406, That Idiot Ivan wrote:

In post 1402, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Cakez Town dies 6 town 2 scum
scum shoots 5 town 2 scum
Mastina town dies 4 town 2 scum
scum shoots 3 town 2 scum
Rogue scum dies 3 town 1 scum
scum shoots 2 town 1 scum

I agree that two of them are scum, and maybe I'm just fussing at it to be pedantic, but you aren't counting yourself dying at the end of the day.

Oh. Right. I forgot.

Gah, so only 2 shots, or rather, if there's only 1 scum in those 3, we can't go Town Town...

In post 1400, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Bombay could still be scum but I'll tell you what?

I don't think T3 is. I think there are way better fake claims and way more powerful roles he could have claimed and it matching the other chess game and only existing so long as chess does and being a town and town game of back and forth.

Makes sense.

So I'm suspicious of everyone who wants T3 dead.

I think you need to put more words into this read if you want me to not immediately try to kill T3 tomorrow, thanks!

(Just letting you know that I have read everything, but I am on my phone right now, and everything that I want to say, requires a desktop to say, and I can't do it while phoneposting. It'll be a fair amount, too, so expect it circa 6-8 hours from now.

That said, one of the things, Ivan brought up already, but LLD also forgot ANOTHER issue beyond the stated. She forgot about a critical fact that both she and I know, which isn't public, but which would even further fuck the town over if eliminating me.)

EDIT: Almost forgot to say,
Yes, I intend to vote SirCakez, but will do so only after LLD has had a chance to hear what I have to say and revise the flawed plan.

Just so we're clear mastina, I'm aware of this too, and you can confirm that knowledge.

In post 1408, The Bombay wrote:

In post 1400, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Bombay could still be scum but I'll tell you what?

I don't think T3 is. I think there are way better fake claims and way more powerful roles he could have claimed and it matching the other chess game and only existing so long as chess does and being a town and town game of back and forth.

Makes sense.

So I'm suspicious of everyone who wants T3 dead.

I think you need to put more words into this read if you want me to not immediately try to kill T3 tomorrow, thanks!

If you think you're in control tomorrow over the town block I'm building, you once again need to check your arrogance.

In post 1409, mastina wrote:(Just letting you know that I have read everything, but I am on my phone right now, and everything that I want to say, requires a desktop to say, and I can't do it while phoneposting. It'll be a fair amount, too, so expect it circa 6-8 hours from now.

That said, one of the things, Ivan brought up already, but LLD also forgot ANOTHER issue beyond the stated. She forgot about a critical fact that both she and I know, which isn't public, but which would even further fuck the town over if eliminating me.)

EDIT: Almost forgot to say,
Yes, I intend to vote SirCakez, but will do so only after LLD has had a chance to hear what I have to say and revise the flawed plan.

I

am supposed to know something?

and Ivan knows it too, but I have no memory?

What?

I am just going to assume that T3 is claiming to be a mirror role to Dwlee.

In post 617, morph the cat wrote:

Spoiler: r/anarchychess was

Welcome to Subreddit Mafia!

Chess but both of the kings are gay. Almost all the pieces are supportive

You are r/anarchychess

Your Abilities are:

• Your voice and your vote
  
• Each game day you will face an unknown adversary in a chess game. The side who goes first on Day 1 will be decided by a random roll. Thereafter, the chess player who goes first will alternate each day.
  
• Each game day, the White side will have 24 hours in which to make their first move. The Black side has 24 hours in which to make their response. The player who takes the least amount of time to make their move gains one point. This will continue for 5 turns. At the end of 5 turns, if one player has lost fewer pieces than the other, that player wins the day's tournament. If they have lost the same number of pieces, then the player who earned the most points is the winner. If you are the winner, you will be able to use your night ability that night.
  
• If the game day ends before the match has reached 5 moves each, and the white player has made one more move than the black player, the game day will go into a twilight period until the Black player makes their final move.
  
• If the game day ends before the match has reached 5 moves each, and both chess players have made the same number of moves, the day will end normally and the winner will be declared based on number chess pieces remaining on the board OR via tiebreaker based on how many points each chess player has accumulated.
  
• Your night action is Strong-willed Cop. Your investigation cannot be redirected or blocked.

Your Win Condition is:
You win when all threats to

Town

have been eliminated or nothing can prevent that from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your alignment, and with the bolded line from the rules in the game thread.

Is there anything here about his ability permanently turning off if someone else dies? I don't see it. "Each day you will face an unknown adversary in a chess game." That line actually seems like it would be a lie if Dwlee stopped playing chess games just because T3 died.

Also, I don't think that an strong-willed cop and a strong-willed doctor are anywhere close in power level.

----

But okay, with his claim, he is saying that he is functionally a VT ever since the moment Dwlee died.

In post 727, T3 wrote:

In post 713, The Bombay wrote:

In post 712, Lukewarm wrote:T3, were you the other chess player?

I don't know why I am doing so poorly at this this game.

no.

He is a VT, but stuck his foot in the ground about claiming for some reason.

In post 1205, T3 wrote:r/chessporn

Even when he finally decides to break his wall of silence, he made this claim. Still refusing to say he was even a player, and frankly, looks like he is still trying to imply that he just watched the chess game.

In post 779, T3 wrote:

In post 757, That Idiot Ivan wrote:

In post 721, StrangeMatter wrote:And Rogue that doesn’t explain anything. How did you come to the conclusion to draw attention to a really bad play? Because I’m still having trouble understanding why someone on town says that and it makes more sense to be something Mafia says.

The hammer was beyond a bad play. This isn't a case of some new player ignorantly quick hammering. Suripoko are making very deliberate choices here. They started out with a gimmick to avoid having to go on record with any actual arguments. Then they quick hammered the first wagon they could. They're taking refuge in charm, amusement value, and audacity.

This isn't town behavior. Pooky will quickhammer a wagon, sure--as scum.

Why are you defending them? Just what redeeming features do you see in anything they've posted? And why should anyone townread a single post they've made?

VOTE: Suripoko
wait this could be good. i've seen pooky openwolf and lolhammer as scum.

If you are looking for a bus vote, this sure looks like one to me

In post 1010, T3 wrote:Suri should die today

I’m not explaining unless I absolutely have to

Does this look like the words of a VT? Or like someone bluffing they have a secret reason?

In post 1411, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:

In post 1408, The Bombay wrote:

In post 1400, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Bombay could still be scum but I'll tell you what?

I don't think T3 is. I think there are way better fake claims and way more powerful roles he could have claimed and it matching the other chess game and only existing so long as chess does and being a town and town game of back and forth.

Makes sense.

So I'm suspicious of everyone who wants T3 dead.

I think you need to put more words into this read if you want me to not immediately try to kill T3 tomorrow, thanks!

If you think you're in control tomorrow over the town block I'm building, you once again need to check your arrogance.

I never said that I was going to have control, I said that I was going to push for it. If you don't want it to be a fight tomorrow when you are not here to explain, maybe talk about it now. If you don't mind it being a fight tomorrow, let it go I guess. Live your best life.

Imagine, someone not claiming at the drop of a hat.

Do you think scum came in with a plan to avoid bussing Suripoko here?

And you do realize that your town block did not even get the kill you wanted yesterday, when you were here to lead it, right? I seem to remember someone saying something about the importance of working with the other people you think are likely to be town. Well, here I am asking you to engage with me on the read that you and I are most split on. But fuck me I guess.

In post 1415, That Idiot Ivan wrote:Imagine, someone not claiming at the drop of a hat.

Do you think scum came in with a plan to avoid bussing Suripoko here?

Ah yes, the true crux of my suspicions...

No, I agree with you that they decided to bus them. I don't think that the game state makes much sense otherwise.

In post 1416, The Bombay wrote:And you do realize that your town block did not even get the kill you wanted yesterday, when you were here to lead it, right? I seem to remember someone saying something about the importance of working with the other people you think are likely to be town. Well, here I am asking you to engage with me on the read that you and I are most split on. But fuck me I guess.

You're not coming to me to work with me.

You're coming to me being arrogant and being like "when you're dead lol, i'm just doing this so explain better lul"

Like fuck you. This isn't about working together for you so don't pretend it is. Not after you went full fuckin ego maniac day 2 as well.

Don't spit in my face and then come back and tell me my own words about working together when you rejected that to start.

You're the one who was impossible to work with, not me. Don't blame me now for not putting my hand out a second time to get bitten again.

Especially given Suri's play. I don't think that they were actually trying that hard to survive the day, which also implies they were on board with the bus.

Yeah, duh.

Pooky has done this before, in the bloodstained game. Speed hammer a townie to get killed with the beloved princess thing.

I don't know what Pooky gained as a result on that day, but I think we have to look at who pooky was protecting on day 1 to accomplish that.

Cause otherwise Why Hammer Dwlee Without A Claim?

There's only one reason to do that and it's self sacrificial. Suripoko had to know they would die as a result of this when they did it. So what do they gain?

LLD, I made the decision to try and work with you before the end of the day. I extended an olive branch, and claimed simply because you wanted me to. I stopped pushing my own reads, and moved my vote to Mastina to try and work with you.

The point of 1408 was to say that you have not said anything to make my suspicions go away, and I am not going to blindly sheep you, so maybe you should say more on T3.

And then I immediately outlined my own thoughts on the slot so you could engage with my thoughts.

I feel like you are reading a lot into my posts that I never intended to be there.

In post 1422, The Bombay wrote:LLD, I made the decision to try and work with you before the end of the day. I extended an olive branch, and claimed simply because you wanted me to. I stopped pushing my own reads, and moved my vote to Mastina to try and work with you.

The point of 1408 was to say that you have not said anything to make my suspicions go away, and I am not going to blindly sheep you, so maybe you should say more on T3.

And then I immediately outlined my own thoughts on the slot so you could engage with my thoughts.

I feel like you are reading a lot into my posts that I never intended to be there.

if I am reading too much intention into your posts, it is because at this point you have conditioned it there

regardless, i want people to look at day 1 and decide, if Dwlee claims and we believe Dwlee's claim and don't kill them...

who would we kill after as a result?

think with that in mind

I will look back at Day 1 with that in mind, but I also think that it is possible that they knew that he was an cop at that point. T3 clearly figured out who the chess player was, so all they had to be told was that their prize was to roleblock a Strong-willed Cop.