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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:39 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 1394, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1391, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1375, humaneatingmonkey wrote:im actually in the opinion that you are being trolled by N_M as part of a pre-game condition he set regardless of what happens.
I really don’t understand why you made this post and what you’re basing it on?

NM has been very seriously deathtunnelling me all game, which makes me really not want to vote Kitty because it’s so extremely suspicious to me that he is doing that without reconsidering his read on me in the slightest.
it's not serious if it's not backed up with pushes and votes. he's been on kittytacky, not on you. when talking about you, he was pretty dodgy and only refers to that first post which is obviously bullshit. i could be overestimating how much of a prankster n_m is, but do you feel me?
I believe you might actually believe this but no, I don’t believe there’s a snowball’s chance in hell he’s pranking me.

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:41 pm
by Roden
In post 1397, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1392, Roden wrote:Actually literally why do I ever push you HEM if I'm scum when Nancy and STD are easier options I can hide in

Do you really think you're that valuable of a mis-elim to me when you've been prepared to vote all of the people I've suspected this game
Who other than Enchant? Kitty? based on that post? Who else?
STD. He was aligned with STD to vote you out, then after I questioned and grilled STD he switching to scum reading him.
In post 1396, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1392, Roden wrote:Actually literally why do I ever push you HEM if I'm scum when Nancy and STD are easier options I can hide in

Do you really think you're that valuable of a mis-elim to me when you've been prepared to vote all of the people I've suspected this game
honestly what are these questions
What's the issue?

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:41 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
well let's ask him

n_m what's good

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:42 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
your questions are so malicious. it's meant to make me seem like some egotistic fuck.

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:42 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
nah maybe not

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:42 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
okay ill answer in good faith

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:43 pm
by Roden
In post 1399, humaneatingmonkey wrote:your 100% goal here is to discredit me and it's obviiouuuus~~~
Is it really that hard to come up with a good reason to trust you

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:43 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 1401, Roden wrote:
In post 1397, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1392, Roden wrote:Actually literally why do I ever push you HEM if I'm scum when Nancy and STD are easier options I can hide in

Do you really think you're that valuable of a mis-elim to me when you've been prepared to vote all of the people I've suspected this game
Who other than Enchant? Kitty? based on that post? Who else?
STD. He was aligned with STD to vote you out, then after I questioned and grilled STD he switching to scum reading him.
In post 1396, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1392, Roden wrote:Actually literally why do I ever push you HEM if I'm scum when Nancy and STD are easier options I can hide in

Do you really think you're that valuable of a mis-elim to me when you've been prepared to vote all of the people I've suspected this game
honestly what are these questions
What's the issue?
Why do you sr Kitty and what are your reads on NM/Dwlee?

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:46 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 1402, humaneatingmonkey wrote:well let's ask him

n_m what's good
NM has never treated me like this in any game ever and I don’t recall him ever “pranking” anyone like that either. He also made it clear he thought V & M was a brand new hydra. NM doesn’t decide pre-game, I’m going to majorly piss off Nancy. He has no reason to do that.

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:47 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
Actually literally why do I ever push you HEM if I'm scum when Nancy and STD are easier options I can hide in
You are stuck. You saw an opportunity when I messed up. Happens all the time to scum who lost momentum, and you've probably been itching to move somewhere else.


Do you really think you're that valuable of a mis-elim to me when you've been prepared to vote all of the people I've suspected this game
I don't think you were ever aiming to miselim me. You were trying to discredit me. I was pushing KittyTacky and all I could think of was 1.) you want me to look bad if kitty flips town 2.) you're partners with kitty and you want to undermine my push as silly.

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:47 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 1408, Venus and Mars wrote:NM has never treated me like this in any game ever and I don’t recall him ever “pranking” anyone like that either. He also made it clear he thought V & M was a brand new hydra. NM doesn’t decide pre-game, I’m going to majorly piss off Nancy. He has no reason to do that.
okay then. i thought he was that kind of troll.

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:49 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 1406, Roden wrote:Is it really that hard to come up with a good reason to trust you
it's a setup and you know it.

what can i say? i'm town? duh. what can i say? i was genuine? duh. it's one of those questions that just sets up the person who would answer in a bad spot.

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:49 pm
by Roden
In post 1407, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1401, Roden wrote:
In post 1397, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1392, Roden wrote:Actually literally why do I ever push you HEM if I'm scum when Nancy and STD are easier options I can hide in

Do you really think you're that valuable of a mis-elim to me when you've been prepared to vote all of the people I've suspected this game
Who other than Enchant? Kitty? based on that post? Who else?
STD. He was aligned with STD to vote you out, then after I questioned and grilled STD he switching to scum reading him.
In post 1396, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1392, Roden wrote:Actually literally why do I ever push you HEM if I'm scum when Nancy and STD are easier options I can hide in

Do you really think you're that valuable of a mis-elim to me when you've been prepared to vote all of the people I've suspected this game
honestly what are these questions
What's the issue?
Why do you sr Kitty and what are your reads on NM/Dwlee?
Kitty isn't really doing anything, and his last pop in lacked self-awareness last others commented. He's technically the only pusher left, he hasn't been particularly prolific at all.

NM is still where I last left him. If I'm wrong about a town read it's probably him.

Dwlee idk. They kinda fell off and feel uninvested after the push on you failed. Gun to head, probably unmotivated town.

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:53 pm
by Venus and Mars
So you and HEM seem to be mindmelding on a lot, so I’m really confused.

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:59 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
exactly. why even bother to discredit like that when it's the same scumread

unless you felt pocketed, Roden?

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:03 am
by Venus and Mars
I agree that NM looks scummier than Dwlee. So the thing for me is NM’s Kitty push looks bad because he scumlocked me. No one else pushing Kitty has done that. Also, Kitty has repeatedly FOS’d NM but only pushes STD.

The reason why NM would not be clear from a Kitty scumflip is because Kitty never put NM in danger nor has NM ever been in danger, STD actually has.

If Kitty’s scum, why is he hard sr NM but never really pushing him? Like it looks like distancing if Kitty’s scum here.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:10 am
by Venus and Mars
@Gamma, what do you think of Kitty?

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:11 am
by Roden
In post 1409, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Actually literally why do I ever push you HEM if I'm scum when Nancy and STD are easier options I can hide in
You are stuck. You saw an opportunity when I messed up. Happens all the time to scum who lost momentum, and you've probably been itching to move somewhere else.


Do you really think you're that valuable of a mis-elim to me when you've been prepared to vote all of the people I've suspected this game
I don't think you were ever aiming to miselim me. You were trying to discredit me. I was pushing KittyTacky and all I could think of was 1.) you want me to look bad if kitty flips town 2.) you're partners with kitty and you want to undermine my push as silly.
Where was my momentum if you think I lost it?

Why do I only want you to look bad if Kitty flips town and not STD? If Kitty is my partner then why do I only shut you down and leave STD alone?
In post 1411, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1406, Roden wrote:Is it really that hard to come up with a good reason to trust you
it's a setup and you know it.

what can i say? i'm town? duh. what can i say? i was genuine? duh. it's one of those questions that just sets up the person who would answer in a bad spot.
You could just bring up moments in the game that show your townieness and solving has been genuine, and quote posts where town agreed with you on certain points that are still relevant.

"If you don't think I'm trustworthy then we do we agree on xyz?" Something like that.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:15 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Where was my momentum if you think I lost it?
Std and nancy stopped being viable wagons and they're what you cited


Why do I only want you to look bad if Kitty flips town and not STD? If Kitty is my partner then why do I only shut you down and leave STD alone?
These aren't in my mind, tbt. But would it only be me who would look bad?

How do you read STD, anyway?

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:16 am
by Venus and Mars
Emotionally Roden seems different here than in newbie. Well if Kitty’s indeed scum here, than he’s obviously the good cop in my theory or at least one.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:16 am
by Roden
In post 1413, Venus and Mars wrote:So you and HEM seem to be mindmelding on a lot, so I’m really confused.
Fair point, honestly.
In post 1414, humaneatingmonkey wrote:exactly. why even bother to discredit like that when it's the same scumread

unless you felt pocketed, Roden?
What do you feel discredited about?

I don't feel pocketed, or at least not by you. You're kind of in the middle of a ven diagram of links between players, if that makes sense.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:20 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 1419, Venus and Mars wrote:Well if Kitty’s indeed scum here, than he’s obviously the good cop in my theory or at least one.
this is where i am

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:22 am
by KittyTacky
In post 1263, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1261, KittyTacky wrote:his most prolific pusher
that's the boldest claim since the manifest destiny
In post 1265, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i'll vote kitty just for 1261. this isn't town kitty. kitty is mostly self-aware, iirc.
Legit curious who you think is pushing STD harder.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:23 am
by humaneatingmonkey
NANCY

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:23 am
by humaneatingmonkey
FLEA