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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:36 pm
by the worst
In post 1385, Aristeia wrote:like duckie's just trying to trigger me atp and I dunno what beat is doing.
In post 1387, Aristeia wrote:not sure scum!duck tries to trigger me with intentionally bad faith play

it's a weird look
this makes me feel kind of sick. you seem really quick to attribute my behaviour to malice. like, the catch here is that i very literally have no idea what you're talking about.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:38 pm
by the worst
little jealous timezones disqualify me from the stoned mafia!! getting high and looking for liars on the internet is such a vibe.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:42 pm
by Meuh
In post 1401, the worst wrote:little jealous timezones disqualify me from the stoned mafia!! getting high and looking for liars on the internet is such a vibe.
Weeding out the mafia

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:43 pm
by Aristeia
In post 1400, the worst wrote:
In post 1385, Aristeia wrote:like duckie's just trying to trigger me atp and I dunno what beat is doing.
In post 1387, Aristeia wrote:not sure scum!duck tries to trigger me with intentionally bad faith play

it's a weird look
this makes me feel kind of sick. you seem really quick to attribute my behaviour to malice. like, the catch here is that i very literally have no idea what you're talking about.
probably that time when I asked you a question in good faith and you responded with a fart noise

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:43 pm
by Aristeia
like I'm fine with skitter mislimming me cuz she's at least kind of trying to understand me

I dunno wtf you're doing

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:44 pm
by Aristeia
like if you don't want to talk to me just say so it's fine, I'll stop trying to engage with you

like I really don't understand what you wanted to convey to me with the fart thing

felt like "fuck off" in a slightly more trolly fashion

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:46 pm
by The Ugly Fruit
Hello everyone, What is going on rn?

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:53 pm
by the worst
In post 1360, the worst wrote:
In post 1358, Pavowski wrote:Ok so Gamma was wagoned before I left, then unwagoned, then wagoned again, and is now slightly less wagoned but still a leading wagon (as of last VC)

That's ... kinda wild

Meanwhile Gamma votes Meuh, Cakez, Aristeia, and now Cakez again

Gamma is almost always cross-voting somebody (though I guess I don't see the timing without digging in deeper). That's interesting.
interesting indeedy. do you think it's ai?
In post 1361, Aristeia wrote:do you think it's ai?
how is reversing a question that i'd just asked someone else "a good faith question"? like why would i ever be incentivised to answer this when you asked it?

i think gamma's specific brand of explosion is probably town indicative. i don't think that's specifically because of the vote pattern pav was looking at though and i was interested in him expanding.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:53 pm
by SirCakez
Lmaoooo weeding out the mafia

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:53 pm
by the worst
which maybe i fucked up by talking about space too much

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:53 pm
by SirCakez
Get it guys

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:55 pm
by the worst
.....omfg i only just realised that was funny

that's excellent

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:57 pm
by Aristeia
In post 1407, the worst wrote:how is reversing a question that i'd just asked someone else "a good faith question"? like why would i ever be incentivised to answer this when you asked it?

i think gamma's specific brand of explosion is probably town indicative. i don't think that's specifically because of the vote pattern pav was looking at though and i was interested in him expanding.

you're asking him a question which implies you've thought about it yourself if you're town.

you are incentivized to answer me because you want me to sort you correctly
especially
if I get flipped today because in the case that I'm town you want me to slot you correctly. If I don't slot you correctly there's a fairly good chance I can kill you from the grave and that likely leads to a town loss.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:58 pm
by SirCakez
Takes on walnuts?

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:00 pm
by Meuh
In post 1406, The Ugly Fruit wrote:Hello everyone, What is going on rn?
We are attempting to figure out each other’s alignments, in typical mafia fashion

Also ikr weeding out the mafia?????
:lol:

Pedit: walnuts are pretty good, though they remind me of wrinkly brains heehee

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:01 pm
by the worst
In post 1412, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1407, the worst wrote:how is reversing a question that i'd just asked someone else "a good faith question"? like why would i ever be incentivised to answer this when you asked it?

i think gamma's specific brand of explosion is probably town indicative. i don't think that's specifically because of the vote pattern pav was looking at though and i was interested in him expanding.

you're asking him a question which implies you've thought about it yourself if you're town.

you are incentivized to answer me because you want me to sort you correctly
especially
if I get flipped today because in the case that I'm town you want me to slot you correctly. If I don't slot you correctly there's a fairly good chance I can kill you from the grave and that likely leads to a town loss.
i feel zero pressure to be read correctly by you. i don't think you're town here, and i trust 1) actual town to get me right; 2) myself to react to a gamestate where i need to be easier to read. my priority here is to sort other slots. my answering that question explicitly signals to pav what i'm looking for in a response and disallows me to use that line of enquiry to sort a slot i'm not confident on (pav).



pedit: allergic ;(

this is not a complicated or niche situation. this is how sorting people works.

i didn't "fart noise" because i don't want to engage with you. i "fart noise"d to signal that my answering that question would be a misplay on my part. idk, another active player on this site has accused me of being a bully as well so maybe i am just toxic. what you're reading into that response is far from my intention though.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:09 pm
by Aristeia
you can just tell me that you dont want to answer because you want pav to answer first

i am fine with that.

if you think theres no need to interact with me because I am definitely scum i will stop interacting with you as well.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:10 pm
by Titus
Catching up now.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:13 pm
by Titus
In post 1117, marcistar wrote:
In post 1116, SirCakez wrote:TUF is such a LHF wagon not interested at all rn
what will it take to make u use a sundress icon
Ooh I got it... if you have Carmen Sandiego in a sundress I'll do it. Or anyone in a fedora with a sundress.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:13 pm
by the worst
i kind of feel like the basis of this conversation is that if i don't play a specific way, i am not a good person, and that's a hard premise to engage with. i also don't think your question was town motivated ("sincerity" or whatever is kind of moot in the middle of a social deception game). i'm fine leaving this as an impasse, would you be ok chatting about it post-game?

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:19 pm
by Titus
In post 1206, Aristeia wrote:like this game is actually very simple

(1) there are massive disincentives towards bussing because you can't actually bus-spew yourself clear due to the clear-mechanism on D1/D2.

so scum have the incentive to hardshield their teammates from being elimmed on d1/d2 because they can't ever take advantage of bussing a teammate really.

Therefore it is important to make the consequences of hard-shielding as dire as possible for a scum player.

Hence why I believe we should policy elim anyone who derails a scum wagon on d1/d2 - which we will know as soon as the derailed scum flip.

Since there is no way for scum to escape together, one of them must remain behind while one of them escapes, there is literally no way for scum to get away with hard-derailing a elim on a scum partner because we will policy them immediately upon escape.
True to a point. We need to a) give town players the confidence to be wrong and b) encourage people to work as a team. If we auto eliminate anyone who defends a wagon, getting a wagon going will be torturous as no one will move off their pet wagon for fear of being miseliminated.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:20 pm
by the worst
perhaps more pertinently, we do not have many miselims in this game. high stakes etc.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:21 pm
by Titus
In post 1275, marcistar wrote:pls guys fruits my friend and he isnt used to how ppl on forums play hes just playing with what he knows from (he does irl maf with friends) and discord maf

its prob a cultural shock for him :pensive::v:
Proactive defense here is odd.

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:23 pm
by Titus
In post 1312, Beat wrote:I believe Ive made clear my main reason for not voting GE is I have stronger scumreads elsewhere
Hmph...

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:25 pm
by Titus
In post 1352, Gamma Emerald wrote:good song :)
Gamma, what are your reads?