Mini 808 - Rabbit Doubt Mafia: Over!
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1) Kmd4390 (1) - Looker
5) Looker
6) Iecerint
7) Molestargazer
9) CSL (1) - Battousai
10) Haylen (1) - Kmd4390
11) Battousai
Not voting (4) - Iecerint, Molestargazer, CSL, Haylen
With 9 players alive, you''ll need 5 votes to lynch.
Green indicates closest to lynch.
6) Iecerint
7) Molestargazer
9) CSL (1) - Battousai
10) Haylen (1) - Kmd4390
11) Battousai
Not voting (4) - Iecerint, Molestargazer, CSL, Haylen
With 9 players alive, you''ll need 5 votes to lynch.
Green indicates closest to lynch.
Room 1: Male Restroom
Room 2: Female Restroom
Room 3: Library
Room 4: Hospital Room
Room 5: ???
Room 6: Dark Room
Room 7: Storage Room
Room 8: Great Hall
Room 9: Bedroom
Room 10: Empty Room
Room 11: ???
Room 12: Crime Scene Room
Room 13: Exit Room
Room 14: ???
Room 15: ???
Room 16: ???
Room 15: ???
Room 16: ???
Black means that that the door is open.
Red means that the door is closed.
Room 14 is in darkred, as it's its door in a different room, which got locked by Iecerint. So nobody, except for Iecerint (who can't use his barcode on it) can get to this door. So nobody can open this door until Iecrint unlocks his door.
Then there's purple. Room 7 also had an extra door in it. This one was opened by Mykonian. As Mykonian didn't leave this room when PhilyEc closed Room 7 and as Mykonian's door isn't locked, both Mykonian and PhilyEc can still move between these two rooms.
Corridor - Kmd4390, Looker, Iecerint, Molestargazer, CSL, Haylen, Battousai
NOTE: When you open a room, you''ll automatically enter it.
NOTE: When you open a room, you''ll automatically enter it.
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The doors apparently grant one-night abilities when someone stays in them overnight. I'm pretty sure Kre was in a room N1, and he died, so I doubt they protect from NK (except rooms 1-2).
I've already said that I think we should lynch one of you and CSL for that incredibly sketchy hammer. The only reason I haven't placed a vote yet is that I'm not crazy about Kmd, and he thinks this is a good idea, too. (Addendum to Batt's comment about Kmd's "Haylen must be scum" view -- even discounting that scum may be nervous or we may not be in lylo, Kmd being scum would also explain why the wagon hasn't led to lynch.)
I've already said that I think we should lynch one of you and CSL for that incredibly sketchy hammer. The only reason I haven't placed a vote yet is that I'm not crazy about Kmd, and he thinks this is a good idea, too. (Addendum to Batt's comment about Kmd's "Haylen must be scum" view -- even discounting that scum may be nervous or we may not be in lylo, Kmd being scum would also explain why the wagon hasn't led to lynch.)
Batt's Post 83 - Two possible theories have came up in the past. One is that you are a Vig, which I doubt because we've only had one person die during nights, and the other is that, due to you not having a key, you are a lover to the wolf, so the question I'd be asking myself is: Do I have a lover, for the one I love could very well be the one we need to kill in order for us to win.
As evidenced by the...
Ztife's(/Don_Johnson) Post 260 - Is there anyone here with a key on their neck? I believe ZazieR had a key on his/her thigh, which would make him/her Rei the hypnotist and the killer in the manga Rabbit Doubt. The only thing left to decide is who is Mitsuki, Battousai's possible lover, and Rei the hypnotist's accomplice. (But this is all assuming that Battousai wasn't lying when he said he didn't have a key and that he, in fact, does not have a key, which, I believe, would make him Yuu)
Ztife was on to this, and DJ suspected you of being scum, KMD, so I have reason to believe that you are Mitsuki and ZazieR's accomplice, seeing as you led the lynch against them.
Myk's Post 360 - You also tunneled in on Mykonian's pregame joke, KMD, leading the bandwagon against him and earning us a mislynch D1. Not saying that this is uncommon, but it doesn't help the case.
KMD's Post 492
As evidenced by the...
Kmd4390 wrote:That's interesting..Battousai wrote: I do not have a key.
Another question I'd like the answer to, and would be kind of...different, would be: Is Super Hot Chick Codename: ZazieR your lover?Kmd4390 wrote:So if Batt has a lover, that player should be scum. Shouldn't outguess the Mod though.Paper wrote:4.) The main character who was not given barcode, since the wolf was his lover, she didn't want to kill him.
And about the library theory, didn't someone say that all the doors are unlocked at night?
Ztife's(/Don_Johnson) Post 260 - Is there anyone here with a key on their neck? I believe ZazieR had a key on his/her thigh, which would make him/her Rei the hypnotist and the killer in the manga Rabbit Doubt. The only thing left to decide is who is Mitsuki, Battousai's possible lover, and Rei the hypnotist's accomplice. (But this is all assuming that Battousai wasn't lying when he said he didn't have a key and that he, in fact, does not have a key, which, I believe, would make him Yuu)
Ztife was on to this, and DJ suspected you of being scum, KMD, so I have reason to believe that you are Mitsuki and ZazieR's accomplice, seeing as you led the lynch against them.
Myk's Post 360 - You also tunneled in on Mykonian's pregame joke, KMD, leading the bandwagon against him and earning us a mislynch D1. Not saying that this is uncommon, but it doesn't help the case.
KMD's Post 492
These were your original targets. Are you the least bit concerned that you're 0 for 3?Kmd4390 wrote:Tenchi/CSL:Kreriov wrote:You mean other than the fact you have not supported them in the least?
-Comes out of the gate working more on setup than finding scum. I've never liked that.
-When he makes a case (on Batt), it's the biggest load of crap I've ever see.
-The shrugging things off as WIFOM bothered me.
-Through 20 posts, has done zero scumhunting aside from latching on to Batt and making a mistake on Phily.
-Continues to look at only the setup
-catch up post is complete IIOA. Almost no opinions at all.
:MykoTown
-His "promise" to Looker.
-Basically lurked through the beginning of the game.
-Took 12+ pages to respond to my serious vote on him.
-OMGUS's me by letting the case develop as I respond to him.
-Votes me over Tenchi, who he actually, you know, HAS a case against.
:KreriovTown
-Basically tunnels on Phily early.
-Unvotes Tenchi for crap reasons instead of pursuing what is actually a good case.
-And now, shrugs off my suspicions as "wild" and unsupported.
If I'm wrong on one of these, Phily is my next suspect.
Looker, there's no guarantee that I'm 0 for 3 just yet. CSL has yet to flip.
Oh, and Mastin is dead. He was a rolecop and checked me Night 1:
Oh, and Mastin is dead. He was a rolecop and checked me Night 1:
My role is a celebrity.Mastin wrote:KMD, why are you so famous?
'Cause you crave attention?
'Cause you bribe/take bets with people?
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A number of possibilities bouncing around in my head.
1) Rei the Hypnotist was the celebrity and she was the Master Wolf/Killer in the manga
2) Mastin's role has yet to be confirmed because Zazie hasn't put up the flavor yet - all we know is that he was a bunny
3) You're lying or this is some kind of joke to keep my occupied because you know I over-analyze things
4) Testicles, that is all
5) Why are you voting Haylen if you want CSL to flip?
6) Can we just get another scumlist from everybody?
1) Rei the Hypnotist was the celebrity and she was the Master Wolf/Killer in the manga
2) Mastin's role has yet to be confirmed because Zazie hasn't put up the flavor yet - all we know is that he was a bunny
3) You're lying or this is some kind of joke to keep my occupied because you know I over-analyze things
4) Testicles, that is all
5) Why are you voting Haylen if you want CSL to flip?
6) Can we just get another scumlist from everybody?
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Mastin's role would make sense. I thought he might be some kind of cop on the basis that he slept in the Library with the door closed N1. On the other hand, I believe Mastin also started D2 by voting Kmd (albeit "jokingly"), so I dunno how that's a tell with regard to Kmd's alignment one way or the other. Assuming that a role's abilities are determined only by sleeping locations, "bunny" players may well be simply that abstracted from their sleeping locations.
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Looker,
1)k. I know nothing about the flavor, so nothing to say to that.
2)Yeah, but he was in the library. I think he crumbed to me intentionally.
3)Neither.
4)I have two.
5)I didn't say I want CSL to flip yet. Just that we don't know for sure that all three of my original suspicions are wrong like you are implying. There's still hope!
6)Scum:Haylen, Looker, Iec. If one is wrong, CSL is scum. Batt and Molest are town.
1)k. I know nothing about the flavor, so nothing to say to that.
2)Yeah, but he was in the library. I think he crumbed to me intentionally.
3)Neither.
4)I have two.
5)I didn't say I want CSL to flip yet. Just that we don't know for sure that all three of my original suspicions are wrong like you are implying. There's still hope!
6)Scum:Haylen, Looker, Iec. If one is wrong, CSL is scum. Batt and Molest are town.
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Kmd has been highly nonspecific throughout this game with regard to the bases of his suspicions. His case on myko was based on a clear joke from RVS. When 2 of his 3 suspects D1 turned up town by D2, he abandoned his third suspect (who was admittedly not present), and singled out DJ among people on the wagon for weak reasons. He correctly asserted that Greg was town, but never clarified why he thought so other than "gut." Today he created a new scumlist with 3 players (CSL, Looker, me), but then turned around and voted Haylen around the time that I asked what separated her from his three suspects. He then removed CSL (the closest thing to a genuinely scummy suspect) from his list. So he's left with Haylen (formerly voted out of the top 3), Looker (for claiming not to have read his PM, probably, since he's not suspecting CSL for the hammer), and me (I'm assuming PoE, even though MSG seems to have slipped through the cracks and CSL beating me out makes little sense).
Vote: Kmd
for lack of consistency with his reads. That, or for negligence to clarify his thought process. If it is demonstrated that this is a case of the latter, I may withdraw my vote.Looker, so you mostly suspect the same people as me, but myself instead of you, and are criticizing me for being wrong? What?
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Iec, so my uncerainty between the 4 players (more specifically CSL/Haylen) who I'm not convinced are town is a scumtell? Why?
I don't consider Looker's "I haven't read my Role PM" thing a scumtell. I unvoted on that because I was willing to admit it was a bad reason to vote.
I suspect you mostly as a connection to Looker and because my VC analysis shows you as the second scummiest living player after Looker.
What needs to be clarified? Meh, I'll just take you through it:
-I came into the day with my top suspects. Looker and you mostly from the VC analysis. CSL as basically a guess over Haylen, eliminating my town reads. Also thought reactions to naming three scum might help.
-I went back and forth trying to figure out CSL/Haylen.
-I assumed Haylen scum due to the fact that I was still alive.
-I'm less sure of this now because someone (I forget who) makes sense saying that a quickhammer is difficult.
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Iec, so my uncerainty between the 4 players (more specifically CSL/Haylen) who I'm not convinced are town is a scumtell? Why?
I don't consider Looker's "I haven't read my Role PM" thing a scumtell. I unvoted on that because I was willing to admit it was a bad reason to vote.
I suspect you mostly as a connection to Looker and because my VC analysis shows you as the second scummiest living player after Looker.
What needs to be clarified? Meh, I'll just take you through it:
-I came into the day with my top suspects. Looker and you mostly from the VC analysis. CSL as basically a guess over Haylen, eliminating my town reads. Also thought reactions to naming three scum might help.
-I went back and forth trying to figure out CSL/Haylen.
-I assumed Haylen scum due to the fact that I was still alive.
-I'm less sure of this now because someone (I forget who) makes sense saying that a quickhammer is difficult.
Unvote, Vote Looker
. I'm back to this because it was my original top scum read. Also gonna put CSL back as the third scum and Haylen as town.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare
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It is scummy to go from Haylen being 4th most likely scum to 1st most likely scum without a decent reason. The new (?) reason you've listed ("due to the fact that I was still alive") doesn't make any sense to me, either. Why would that take Haylen from 4th to 1st (and now to town again)?
If you aren't suspecting Looker for claiming not reading the PM and you're not suspecting him for goading (IMO) CSL into hammering, what're you suspecting him for? Just VC? Is there any actual play by Looker you'd care to interpret? Are you sure you're not failing to account for all the inactive players (who naturally will have "better" voting histories)?
If you aren't suspecting Looker for claiming not reading the PM and you're not suspecting him for goading (IMO) CSL into hammering, what're you suspecting him for? Just VC? Is there any actual play by Looker you'd care to interpret? Are you sure you're not failing to account for all the inactive players (who naturally will have "better" voting histories)?
I saw no reason why I was still alive except that scum was inactive. Aside from that, Haylen is the most likely town of my group of 4.
As for reasons for suspecting Looker, after this game, I'm gonna go back to pretending I use logic to get my reads in games instead of just admitting that it's all gut. I'm not gonna go back post by post now because it's late in the game, so I'm gonna say it how it is. It's all about the VCs and gut.
As for reasons for suspecting Looker, after this game, I'm gonna go back to pretending I use logic to get my reads in games instead of just admitting that it's all gut. I'm not gonna go back post by post now because it's late in the game, so I'm gonna say it how it is. It's all about the VCs and gut.
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