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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:30 am
by Csareo
↑ farside22 wrote:Sounds like he's trying to justify a wagon without actually risking being CC'd.
His partner lives, and he can still justify his existence.
Especially since we are lylo after this.
This was the strategy of my first mafia game, one I was scum in.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:30 am
by mykonian
That's the second fucking time the "there's no reason why scum would" while we this time we are looking at a possible last mislynch for a fakeclaim being on the line, by a player who's been one of the scummiest all game and who played a dubious role in last days lynch.
why is that line of argumentation even used in defense for players anyway. You aren't even thinking about what scum would gain.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:30 am
by Anatole Kuragin
he was townreading him until this post, which makes sense imo
↑ Csareo wrote:Actually
UNVOTE: mafiassk
VOTE: TSO
I'm really suspicious of his intentions this game.
He seemed to manafacture an SSK wagon on D2, while also finishing the Vezokrika lynch.
Since Mafiassk joined the vezo wagon early, it isn't likely Mafiassk was bussing (which is confirmed now), meaning that TSO's vote was incompatible with his scum read on Mafiassk.
Something I'm not buying into. I also am suspicious of him constantly calling me town.
I have this gut feeling that if I were scum, I would want to keep the VI around to mislynch later into the game.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:31 am
by mykonian
↑ farside22 wrote: ↑ Csareo wrote:TSO hasn't even told us what his PR is. Scum 101.
Sounds like he's trying to justify a wagon without actually risking being CC'd.
As scum he gets one dead townie.
I really don't get why you think this is scummy.
FARSIDE
THINK BEFORE YOU PRESS SUBMIT.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:32 am
by farside22
↑ Csareo wrote: ↑ farside22 wrote: ↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:There's no reason for scum to be desperate enough to fake claim at this point considering how shit we have played, tbh
This^
I'm looking for a few response before I vote.
You know better than this. Scum fake PR's more than anyone else, and it's to get a basis for lynches.
Yea it's typically fake doc/protective roles.
Were you scum reading him before the soft claim?
Ebwop: fair enough csa.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:32 am
by Csareo
I'm pretty sure scum wins if we mislynch.
We kill a townie today, another is NK'd, and a mafia can die tommorow and still win with the final NK.
Dependent on TSO not being a good that is. Even then, scum would only need to finish one more town lynch.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:32 am
by Csareo
*a goon
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:33 am
by farside22
↑ mykonian wrote: ↑ farside22 wrote: ↑ Csareo wrote:TSO hasn't even told us what his PR is. Scum 101.
Sounds like he's trying to justify a wagon without actually risking being CC'd.
As scum he gets one dead townie.
I really don't get why you think this is scummy.
FARSIDE
THINK BEFORE YOU PRESS SUBMIT.
HE GETS LYNCHED FOR LYING! Wtf
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:33 am
by Anatole Kuragin
↑ Csareo wrote:I'm pretty sure scum wins if we mislynch.
We kill a townie today, another is NK'd, and a mafia can die tommorow and still win with the final NK.
Dependent on TSO not being a good that is. Even then, scum would only need to finish one more town lynch.
we have to mislynch twice assuming no saves
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:34 am
by Anatole Kuragin
TSO full claim, all results
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:35 am
by mykonian
Actually, reck might have a point. There's a thin border between passive and annoying and being scum in plain view.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:35 am
by farside22
↑ Csareo wrote:I'm pretty sure scum wins if we mislynch.
We kill a townie today, another is NK'd, and a mafia can die tommorow and still win with the final NK.
Dependent on TSO not being a good that is. Even then, scum would only need to finish one more town lynch.
9 player
Typically 3 scum
6 town - mislynch
5 town-Nk town
4/3 tomorrow
Lynch scum
2/4
You get the idea
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:36 am
by mykonian
csareo, you are posting sense here. Can you explain to me why farside is full on defending tso here?
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:37 am
by farside22
↑ mykonian wrote:Actually, reck might have a point. There's a thin border between passive and annoying and being scum in plain view.
That better be directed at recks own play.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:37 am
by Anatole Kuragin
tso and reck have both been pretty passive and annoying
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:38 am
by Csareo
That's dependent on TSO being lynched tommorow, which isn't even for sure. TSO also has a reputation forstarting wagons on scumbuddies and playing out the rest of the game.
He did it in BE's 1601, starting the wagon on his scum buddy.
There are a million possibilities, none of which discredit the evidence we have to believe TSO is lying.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:38 am
by Csareo
Sorry, above is a reply to farside
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:39 am
by farside22
↑ mykonian wrote:csareo, you are posting sense here. Can you explain to me why farside is full on defending tso here?
Why don't you fucking ask me?
I'm fucking curious why people auto believe he is fake claiming.
Seriously myko do you not fucking read before you submit?
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:40 am
by Anatole Kuragin
↑ Csareo wrote:That's dependent on TSO being lynched tommorow, which isn't even for sure. TSO also has a reputation forstarting wagons on scumbuddies and playing out the rest of the game.
He did it in BE's 1601, starting the wagon on his scum buddy.
There are a million possibilities, none of which discredit the evidence we have to believe TSO is lying.
what evidence do we have that he is lying?
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:41 am
by farside22
↑ Csareo wrote:That's dependent on TSO being lynched tommorow, which isn't even for sure. TSO also has a reputation forstarting wagons on scumbuddies and playing out the rest of the game.
He did it in BE's 1601, starting the wagon on his scum buddy.
There are a million possibilities, none of which discredit the evidence we have to believe TSO is lying.
Yea, I can see that thought process.
If he is scum It is wifom with SSK.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:41 am
by Csareo
↑ mykonian wrote:csareo, you are posting sense here. Can you explain to me why farside is full on defending tso here?
I have no idea. Farside's defense is unusual, because it is also very reactionary.
Which is why I doubt it is do to a solid town read on TSO.
I can only justify such reactionary posts, if farside were to have confirmed TSO in the night. Also unlikely.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:42 am
by mykonian
↑ farside22 wrote: ↑ mykonian wrote:csareo, you are posting sense here. Can you explain to me why farside is full on defending tso here?
Why don't you fucking ask me?
because talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. You just repeat your point endlessly, even if I'm asking out that particular point and why you'd ever make it in the face of all evidence.
So asking csareo is more productive. He's on my line of thought here, and he's not feeling my annoyance for you, so he might have a better view if my annoyance is just that or if you are scum.
So I'd rather not talk to you, tyvm.
Pedit: Thanks.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:43 am
by Csareo
Not even an FOS on farside. I think he's town.
If TSO flips scum, then I would point out the early buddying in late D1 + early D2.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:44 am
by mykonian
knowing her personality, it makes most sense if tso is town, she's scum, for the record.
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:45 am
by farside22
↑ Csareo wrote: ↑ mykonian wrote:csareo, you are posting sense here. Can you explain to me why farside is full on defending tso here?
I have no idea. Farside's defense is unusual, because it is also very reactionary.
Which is why I doubt it is do to a solid town read on TSO.
I can only justify such reactionary posts, if farside were to have confirmed TSO in the night. Also unlikely.
No I don't have a town read on tso. The claim seemed natural and had to do with others reaction to his claim.
Not that myko reads things I post.
