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In post 1423, Wall wrote:_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|
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_|___|perception of Math, so I don't|___|
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Kid can have a POV I am horrible yes.
However if he is unable to attempt to see a holistic view of each player before calling them horrible then he is merely taking out his anger for that game onto me rather than a genuine scumread. Which means he isn't providing content and looking for a scapegoat. That is in essence the problem. He's decided I am a detriment before I post.

--Math

In post 1413, Hiraki wrote:

In post 1369, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Now that you mentioned Wall and Rach interactions it reminded me of Wall saying he would spoiler his posts for Rach. I didn't consider it much at the time but now when I think of Gork slipping that he is wall it made me think a thought.

????

In post 1391, Gamma Emerald wrote:He acknowledges he generally finds me scummy but doesn't use that as a reason to townread me.

Just so we're clear, I said that because I currently still think you are scummy.

I hate 1391 because it's really nonchalant. Also there are no scumreads outside of:

Smith: who has posted like maybe a max of 10 times
Slysly: who I think just about everyone has called a mixture of scummy and dodgy

I could be just flat out wrong here but TRing this many people is detrimental to the game state.

Ha nice try.
Slysly is obvTown. Saying everyone is a huge stretch.

This is a 32 player game. As much as I hate it a town block will happen.

--Math

In post 1423, Wall wrote:_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|
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_|___|perception of Math, so I don't|___|
___|___|get why that's scummy?|___|__
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There is shading being done, no discussion or trying to sort, but immediate discrediting of opinions for down the road, regarding Math.

967, kid says A50's post pinged him, but what was the post? He didn't delve into it further, he said NF and Rach fight was a fight and said he wasn't qualified to given an opinion, but an opinion doesn't have to be qualified to give one, you just bloody say it.

Also I answered this question already because, besides 967, everything onward read to me a shitpost.

In post 1427, Firebringer wrote:VC WILL BE GETTING TO THIS SOON.

I thought this game wasn't bastard?

Did mod lies become legal now? >_>

Did I miss anything important?

cakes and cookies but we all ran out

Additional catchup notes not worth their own quote / comment.

Post 1370 - check out the reads in this post
Post 1385 - siblings hard claimed something? Maybe I thought it was a joke?
1386 - iso Tywin, see if Insomniacs are accurate in this post

Question: should I exhaustively read the 20+ pages in the middle, or just go back to research stuff that people refer to? Any events you think are important that I haven't caught a reference to and made a note to go back to?

Oh, the PGO thing. Duh. (that's what I get for not opening a separate tab lol)

Re: the point in 1385. Yes, "crumbing" after having claimed in first post is a little sketchy. However I can see a possible town motivation for doing it.

Pedit: And then you have people like me who don't mind not being caught up as long as the yammerheads don't lynch us for not being caught up. Sadly that happens too much but I place a high priority on being trustworthy so I stay in anyway despite the risk to myself and town.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

It's time to nut up or shut up.

Vote Gamma to end D1 unless you TR him.

The many differing wagons thing cannot happen with 32 players.

In post 1410, Insomniacs wrote:

In post 1366, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:

In post 1365, Insomniacs wrote:

In post 1252, Not Chara wrote:

In post 1232, Insomniacs wrote:Not Chara is based on what Narna and I feel are inconsistencies regarding Undertale and here. I don't have time to go too indepth right now.

i'd like you both to.
because you, Mathblade, have far too many towngames with me to be pointing at a single past towngame and saying 'inconsistency'. ;>

Almost: i'm not following you right now, don't you worry.

You seem to be reaching for low hanging fruit. Rach is obvtown and pushing obvtown Rach is unacceptable. Ramcius is lynchbait. I don't like those on their own.

The Undertale thing just accentuates the read. You were looked past the lynchbait Pepto and Giga slots (who were constantly misplaying and being scummy) and defended them as town. I don't see anything scummy from Rach or Ram. The bolded is the important part though.

-N

What makes Rach obv!town? I thought the assessment of Nero in the early game was a reach and I'm still sorting through her change of opinions of the slot

+A billion to Narna well said.

Because she is hunting. Even when on V/LA as Town she hunts with the small amount of time she has. As scum she stalls to give reads and is generally just more bitchy.

#loveYouRM

--Math

thought this meant me for a sec and now im sad

In post 1427, Firebringer wrote:

Vote Count 1.07

Siblings Quarrel (L-15): Mhsmith0, Nero Cain
Gamma Emerald (L-9): Carnelian, Insomniacs, rb, Tywin Lannister, Master Vampire, Not Fury, SlySly, Siblings Quarrel
Cerberus v666 (L-16) : Tarkus
Not Fury (L-16) : Titus,
Master Vampire (L-16): DanelerH
RachMarie (L-16): Randomidget,
Kidamn (L-15): TheRealGin-N-Tonic, RachMarie
Ramcius (L-16): Not Chara,
Tarkus (L-16): PeregrineV,
Scott and Ramona (L-14): Wall, Socrates, Almost50
Tywin Lannister (L-14): Ramcius, Chairman Doggo, Gamma Emerald


Not Voting (8): Shiro, Majiffy, ZZZX, Hikari, Kidamn, Davesaz, Cerebrus v666, Scott and Ramona

With 32 players alive it takes 17 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2017-05-18 21:10:00)

Note: Majiffy has requested replacement
Tarkus has requested replacement
DanelerH has requested replacement
ZZX is on V/LA.

VOTE: gamma emerald

In post 1386, Insomniacs wrote:Twin, your entrance was some hot garbage. You summarized a few events of the game prior to your post without using them to make a point and voted one of the townier slots for "hurr shitposting". In #782 you tell Ram that Doggo is town based on how bad Ram's reads always are and then vote him. Well which is it, town Ram with shit reads or scum? You also bring up the possibility of multiball in that post which you just conveniently ignored when you blew up on us for scumreading both you and Gamma. I'm allowed to scumread you two independently regardless. It's not like Gamma has flipped yet. You're right though. You caught Gamma so hard that our vote and explanation on gamma were retroactively edited into our posts from before you said anything about him. We highlighted a post of Gamma's we didn't like and said there are others that bug us. How is that any different than your glorious "just go iso gamma" case? I wasn't trying to take credit for shit nor trying to create any false associations, but it sure looks like you are. You also throw shade on obvtown Rach at some point which is a big nono.

In post 1381, Titus wrote:

In post 1371, Titus wrote:Narna have you and Math synced yet?

Yeah, what's crackin'?

When did I shade Rach? Again, do you guys not read? I called Rach town before you did here. So wtf? Are you two confusing my posts with others? Is it on purpose?

Please show where I shaded Rach, since you decided to add it to your nonsense post. I'll wait for it.

He knows that's the throwaway part of the argument yet only picks at that part, very good.

In post 737, Tywin Lannister wrote:Pedit: I agree with NC. Why does rach care so much about if they played with wall before? It's just weird.

You agree with NC who said they would vote Rach and was listing reasons to.

-N

Why are you being so abrasive my mans? It doesn't suit you.

-N

In post 1436, Titus wrote:VOTE: Gamma Emerald

It's time to nut up or shut up.

Vote Gamma to end D1 unless you TR him.

The many differing wagons thing cannot happen with 32 players.

I'm fully behind this

In post 1411, Insomniacs wrote:

In post 1378, Tywin Lannister wrote:

In post 1370, Insomniacs wrote:Call me crazy guys, but I think Gamma and Twinn look scummy as fuck. I'm kind of seeing what Ali's putting down about Scott, but Majiffy/Scott looked tvt to me. I don't really have time to elaborate right now, but we should be staying the course with this Gamma wagon.

-N

In what world do you think me and gamma are scum buddies? I've been hard pushing gamma forever now, while you try shit flinging without anything to back it up, but then say ridiculous shit like 'lets stay the gamma course' as if you had any fucking thing to do with it. Don't try to take credit when others catch scum. You havent done a single thing all game long, and you're a hydra. That's doubly damning. Two useless scumsters in one scummy slot. The only reason i can think of for you to be saying this gamma + tywin shit is because you know gamma is the inevitable lynch, so you're trying to place false associations with your scum buddy gamma. You know who else did it? SlySly.

Oh and this 'guys look! I'm posting! These players are scum but ohhhhhh look at the time! Got to go! No time to explain any of the bullshit I spew!' is the scummiest thing ive seen all game outside of gamma's ISO, Rams' iso, and SlySlys coin flip post (which is basically his entire iso). Interestingly enough, it happened to have the exact same gamma + Tywin read as the illogical and unexplained shit you've been slinging. Gonna catch your whole scum team by myself at this rate. Onward with gamma, then insomniacs or SlySly next.

First of all, your attacking RL is shit and you'll notice that I wasn't anywhere else on the board. You are better than attacking someone over RL. Secondly I am explaining content as best as I can in a rapid moving thread. You + Gamma makes sense because the bus is awkward as fuck your emotions are waaaaaaaaay too overblown and your interactions with Doggo are atrocious. Onward to us will NOT be a thing. No matter how much you want it to be.

--Math

This is a scum post. You bringing up RL as the main point of contention here is ridiculous and scummy. It means you cant contend with the actual meat of the argument, so go after the part that doesnt really matter.

You explaining content is fine, but not explaining why definitely gives me scum vibes, especially when it's on me. You've mentioned my name in multiple posts along with gamma, but it's entirely a fake read and we both know that.

Me and gamma do NOT make sense whatsoever and any player with common sense could see that.

1. Scum dont bus D1, especially not in large games like this. Your statement in light of that alone, barring all other evidence, is absolutely ridiculous and scummy af.

2. I've hard pushed gamma since early in the game after I iso' d him. Much harder than anything you've done all game with two players in your slot. Go discuss how useless you are with Narna some more and say nothing in thread. That sure looks town /s

3. You need to explain why you claim my push on gamma is so awwwwwwkward because that's a useless word with zero meaning when you refuse to explain it. It also is entirely subjective to opinion, and if I'm being brutally honest, youre an awkward player to begin with. I'm not sure you could judge that well, but have the benefit of the doubt. Explain

4. My emotions are not waaaaaay to overblown. This is how I play, especially when ive caught scum. Even you seem to agree I've caught scum I'm Gamma, so this association you've been trying to make stick for a while now is clearly not town driven. You whine that I've associated you with scum SlySly based on your all-too-similar and b.s. reads, but that actually makes sense.

5. You keep saying how much you've talked to Narna in hydra PT, but never say shit in the actual thread. It's all 'Narna and I have RL issues we don't ever have the time to explain absolutely any bullshit thing we say, oh look at the time got to go!!!' Frankly, I think it's a scum tell. You do spend lots of time talking outside the thread. In the scum PT.

6. My interactions with Diego is atrocious how? Explain yourself or dont bother speaking. I've already caught you in one lie when you claimed I shaded Rach, whom you've been buddying non-stop. The doggo interaction is what it is, BUT notice how AFTER I called doggo out, he fucking disappeared???? He went from the top poster by a country mile to basically a lurk sack immediately after I brought attention to his shit. Notice that? I do. He's also voting me, which is a vanity vote for one, and two, he hasn't ever explained why her SR me or ever try pushing. He's been a lurking sack of useless shit ever since I initially SR him and said he's posted the most while saying the least. His read list changed my mind on pursuing him to a lynch, but don't think I've forgotten about him. He will get his rope soon enough. He's not town.

7. Maybe I won't be able to lynch you two tomorrow, but I bet I could lynch one of your buddies like Sly. I only need one flip to take your team out. Then it's on to the other scum. Honestly, what tipped me off the most was when you agreed gamma is scum while actually pretending I'm associated with someone I've hard pushed all game. That's such a ridiculous stance to make, but it does say something. Gamma IS scum, because he still won't be lynched today even after his ISO is basically a scum claim. It's a smoking gun, but people vote Siblings instead. That basically conf town's them and conf scums gamma. So maybe I've found scum from both teams. All that's needed then is to find the associations. Gamma I can just VCA the Sibling wagon after they flip obvious town. Gamma's scum team are on that wagon for sure. It's clearly a trash scum push. As for you two, we will see what happens. You'll either be cleared or incriminated, and we go from there.


Pedit: did you really just quote a post from the beginning of the game to cherry pick while ignoring my later reads on Rach? Lol!!! Jesus you're obvious scum.

In post 1440, Insomniacs wrote:He knows that's the throwaway part of the argument yet only picks at that part, very good.

In post 737, Tywin Lannister wrote:Pedit: I agree with NC. Why does rach care so much about if they played with wall before? It's just weird.

You agree with NC who said they would vote Rach and was listing reasons to.

-N

You realize this is a misrep, right? I remember making that post,and it had nothing to do with voting Rach. I was seeing her weird Wall interaction as scummy amd something that needed looking into, because she was focused on him even though she TR him. You don't focus on a TR in a 30+ player game, at least I don't. I ignore half the game whom I TR or null read enough to not wanna lynch.

In post 1358, Tywin Lannister wrote: Rach was a gut SR early, especially with the original Wall interaction, but I like her later posts. TR.

See this? Thanks

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You (Tywin) flipped a tit when I said you and Gamma were scum (I didn't say together and Math hadn't said bus at the time) despite knowing the game could very well be multiball. Are you telling me that isn't overblown/defenisve/OMGUS/buzzword? And sure, I picked your cherry Tywin, whatcha gonna do about it?

In post 1444, Tywin Lannister wrote:

In post 1440, Insomniacs wrote:He knows that's the throwaway part of the argument yet only picks at that part, very good.

In post 737, Tywin Lannister wrote:Pedit: I agree with NC. Why does rach care so much about if they played with wall before? It's just weird.

You agree with NC who said they would vote Rach and was listing reasons to.

-N

You realize this is a misrep, right? I remember making that post,and it had nothing to do with voting Rach. I was seeing her weird Wall interaction as scummy amd something that needed looking into, because she was focused on him even though she TR him. You don't focus on a TR in a 30+ player game, at least I don't. I ignore half the game whom I TR or null read enough to not wanna lynch.

In post 1358, Tywin Lannister wrote: Rach was a gut SR early, especially with the original Wall interaction, but I like her later posts. TR.

See this? Thanks

pedit: I generally don't like it when people just say things are 'odd'. Especially when people are talking about voting them right before it. I believe the word for that is shade. I said you threw shade, "at some point."

-N

Calling yourself a vanity wagon was also pretty cute. You're like, unlynchable now dude.

-N

In post 1434, Firebringer wrote:

3 people have requested replacements.
Theres 32 players in this game.

The majority of people who have replaced out reasons are "I can't keep up".
I don't know how I can stress this point enough without becoming annoying about it.

Game has had like 50 posts in last 24 hours.

In a 32 player game. Like the rate of posting isn't even 2 posts per player per day since your last mention - the fuck more do you want, lmao.

The problem here isn't overactivity if people STILL can't keep up.

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