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Dram, i thought that was already clear
My reads matter more than probabilities to me

so half the game is scum.
Plus me for good measure.

Man those are some risky reads you're putting out there.

In post 1425, Wisdom wrote:Dram, i thought that was already clear
My reads matter more than probabilities to me

I'm just reconfirming it several times.
Still sounds ridiculous.

Wis why did you take realmen out of your murder pool?

In post 1419, Wisdom wrote:Also i consider myself pretty transparent and obvtown in this game so i have a very hard time seeing what muffin is doing as town

ha, ha...

the funny thing is i thought your early pushing on your own group coming from a town mindset

then the claim came out and you suddenly changed your tune and decided lynching your own group was unwise

this is what initially made me wary of you and this is why i started rethinking the best course of action today

and everything you've done since then has made me even more wary of you, from ignoring suggestions that you were acting like you were considering, to the swap on REAL MAN of all people (who NO ONE but you had or has any sort of strong townread on iirc), to constantly changing your tune about who's actually scum in your group and with who

In post 1424, Wisdom wrote:But again, this would be a waste
Ideally I want to lynch as many I can from {Pine, Riku, muffin, Cakez, Eddie, Fitz} and save as many as I can from the rest

And before someone twists this
Cakez is not a scumread currently because i don't think both he and muffin are scum
But his flip still helps sort muffin (and possibly Eddie when he confirms he has the fourth role)
Just like pine and riku probably arent both scum yet both flipping is best

See, nobody has to paint you as scummy Wisdom
You're either scum or massively detrimental to the town wincon.

In post 1426, dramonic wrote:so half the game is scum.
Plus me for good measure.

Man those are some risky reads you're putting out there.

lel
see previous post

In post 1428, SirCakez wrote:Wis why did you take realmen out of your murder pool?

Because I'm townreading him
Hence moving him to g2
I had some paranoia about the mindmelding but the simpler answer is hes just town

I'm wondering if you're realizing your hypocrisy or not.

In post 1429, zMuffinMan wrote:to constantly changing your tune about who's actually scum in your group and with who

yeah forgive me for adapting my reads based on happenings

In post 1430, Wisdom wrote:

In post 1424, Wisdom wrote:Cakez is not a scumread currently because i don't think both he and muffin are scum
But his flip still helps sort muffin (and possibly Eddie when he confirms he has the fourth role)
Just like pine and riku probably arent both scum yet both flipping is best

These are all statements based on probability pools.
You are so full of crap lol

Hmm

Your reads are fabricated to fit your whims of the moment, you have no conviction whatsoever and the entirety of your play is built around your own personal agenda and not the interest of the town.
Please just roll over and die like you should.

Im not fucking saying i disregard probabilities or mechanics completely
Im saying my reads take priority
ffs

In post 1435, Wisdom wrote:

In post 1429, zMuffinMan wrote:to constantly changing your tune about who's actually scum in your group and with who

yeah forgive me for adapting my reads based on happenings

that's not what i was referring to

i'll find the quote in a sec

dram youre just disliking the way i do things
Push that aside and stop helping scum shade me

i want to know how you go from the assumption that there's 2 scum in your group to:

In post 960, Wisdom wrote:dram explain to me how it is protown from my pov to lynch myself and two people I am townreading so I can lynch 2 people only one of which will be scum 99% of the time

to now going back to thinking that both pine and riku are scum (or likely scum or however you want to put it)

I only said pine and riku have a chance of being both scum based on them both acting the same nonsensical way (asking to be placed in the lynchgroup)
I still dont think thats very likely despite that, though i want them both flipped because i am not sure which of the two is the scum

which should also be clear while reading my exchange with riku

that's not answering the question (or maybe i didn't phrase it properly); i want you to explain where/why you went from "two scum in my group" to "99% chance it's only one" to "there could be two" again

btw, your entire swap plan seemed to be based on the assumption that swapping out exactly one of pine/riku was better than keeping both in the group and trying to swap another scum player in there

the latter of which was suggested to you by people who you at least pretended to take suggestions from

before ignoring

At first i was scumreading kokichi too so lynching g2 was ideal
Then koki claimed and obvtowned so that got reduced to 2 likely scum vs 3 town
And again, "There could be two" is not something im pushing now, just something that came to mind after riku's behavior earlier

Also i didnt ignore anyone
People wanted dram to die
Nsg suggested swapping riku and not pine
I acknowledged those

In post 1446, zMuffinMan wrote:btw, your entire swap plan seemed to be based on the assumption that swapping out exactly one of pine/riku was better than keeping both in the group and trying to swap another scum player in there

Yes, my thinking has always been only one of them is scum