BTE: Boon Wars - Revenge of the Jingle

[Arist2D2]

Dunno about mountainous setups but every other game run in this series has been 4 scum.

[Darth Easy Baker]

Lynching town loses regardless but yeah.

Exactly. So if we do lynch town, and the game's not over...

... there's obviously only 3 scum, so the lynched player should hold their shot.

[Arist2D2]

SS is right about this mechanically. If there are 4 scum we lose upon a ML either way. In a world with 3 scum, a venge today means we can kill the 2 scummiest players using today's lynch and the venge, after which scum that's still alive can kill tonight and win. No venge means 3p lylo, where you can lynch the second scummiest player who then venges the third scummiest player.

[Arist2D2]

Anyway yeah if nothing changes today we're probably going to vote Deb.

[Arist2D2]

Lynching town loses regardless but yeah.

Exactly. So if we do lynch town, and the game's not over...

... there's obviously only 3 scum, so the lynched player should hold their shot.

The game won't end when the numbers are tied, it will still go into night phase then we lose the next day, after scums shot.

[Arist2D2]

Ausuka shh, I've called everyone still alive scum in some fashion. It doesn't look good for us in a 3p lylo.

[Arist2D2]

Beep.

[Darth Easy Baker]

Well, if Boon's gonna play out the game when the result is already known, then I guess he can, lol, but obviously town should be assuming they still have a chance to win.

[Boonskiies]

Mod: Are vengekills mandatory?

If not, and we mislynch today, they shouldn't kill anyone.

Yes, mandatory if a townie is misexecuted.

[Darth Easy Baker]

VOTE: No Lynch
Best move is double NL then.

[Ki Adi Joandi]

Mod: Are vengekills mandatory?

If not, and we mislynch today, they shouldn't kill anyone.

If I didn't scumread you before I sure do now.

How so? Assuming 4-1 now ot makes sense to go into the night as 3-1, thus 2-1 tomorrow with another chance to either lynch scum or vengekill them.

[Ki Adi Joandi]

We have finally come to the consensus that Tytitus is town. The Shiro kill kind of backs that up. Shiro dying instead of ki adi makes me second guess and my partner thinks he could be Deb's partner, I think it's Nute but I'm not solid on ki adi being town like I was the rest of the game so my partner can probably talk me into it.

So you think it's 3-2?? We started the game with 4 scums??

[Ki Adi Joandi]

I'm playing under the assumption we are already in lylo and no shooting loses the game if we lynch town.

OK. Carry on

[Ki Adi Joandi]

Explain to me how we can win if it's 3:2 and we lynch town, they vengekill scum, and town dies overnight.

True, but I'm assuming Ausuka's talking (at least I hope she is)

[Ki Adi Joandi]

Anyway yeah if nothing changes today we're probably going to vote Deb.

he is mechanically correct so you want to lynch him??

[Almost50]

Lynching town loses regardless but yeah.

Exactly. So if we do lynch town, and the game's not over...

... there's obviously only 3 scum, so the lynched player should hold their shot.

The game won't end when the numbers are tied, it will still go into night phase then we lose the next day, after scums shot.

What's the bloody difference? If there are 2 scums alive we lose upon a mislynch anyway. That's was the whole point.

[Ki Adi Joandi]

Lynching town loses regardless but yeah.

Exactly. So if we do lynch town, and the game's not over...

... there's obviously only 3 scum, so the lynched player should hold their shot.

The game won't end when the numbers are tied, it will still go into night phase then we lose the next day, after scums shot.

What's the bloody difference? If there are 2 scums alive we lose upon a mislynch anyway. That's was the whole point.

[Ki Adi Joandi]

That's what happens when I get over excited, whether it be joy or pain.

[Ki Adi Joandi]

VOTE: No Lynch
Best move is double NL then.

Are we letting scum decide who they want to take to LyLo??

[Arist2D2]

Explain to me how we can win if it's 3:2 and we lynch town, they vengekill scum, and town dies overnight.

True, but I'm assuming Ausuka's talking (at least I hope she is)

Uhh, not sure what this means but that was RCE at daystart, I was the one who came in afterwards to say SS was mechanically correct.

Me wanting to lynch him has nothing to do with mechanics? I've scumread him since yesterday.

[Arist2D2]

Not sure how I feel about double nl, there's no doubt about the advantage it could provide, but why are we just assuming there are 3 scum? Like, everyone viewed it as roughly 50/50 yesterday I think and it's not like we have seen the inactive power?

[Darth Easy Baker]

Assuming 3 scum gives us the most realistic chance of actually winning.

And I don't really care about scum choosing who goes to LYLO. Even if we lynch and shoot randomly in LYLO, we have a 2/3 chance to win.

[Boonskiies]

Mod: Are vengekills mandatory?

If not, and we mislynch today, they shouldn't kill anyone.

Yes, mandatory if a townie is misexecuted.

The kills will happen simultaneously.

[Arist2D2]

Anyway yeah if nothing changes today we're probably going to vote Deb.

he is mechanically correct so you want to lynch him??

Being right on mechanics doesn't make him not scum.

[Arist2D2]

I'm gonna sheep Ausuka and say it's just deb/ki adi. She was right on palpatine and right on obi so far.