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Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:26 am
by Arist2D2
Dunno about mountainous setups but every other game run in this series has been 4 scum.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:32 am
by Darth Easy Baker
In post 1424, Arist2D2 wrote:Lynching town loses regardless but yeah.
Exactly. So if we do lynch town, and the game's not over...

... there's obviously only 3 scum, so the lynched player should hold their shot.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:35 am
by Arist2D2
SS is right about this mechanically. If there are 4 scum we lose upon a ML either way. In a world with 3 scum, a venge today means we can kill the 2 scummiest players using today's lynch and the venge, after which scum that's still alive can kill tonight and win. No venge means 3p lylo, where you can lynch the second scummiest player who then venges the third scummiest player.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:37 am
by Arist2D2
Anyway yeah if nothing changes today we're probably going to vote Deb.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:57 am
by Arist2D2
In post 1426, Darth Easy Baker wrote:
In post 1424, Arist2D2 wrote:Lynching town loses regardless but yeah.
Exactly. So if we do lynch town, and the game's not over...

... there's obviously only 3 scum, so the lynched player should hold their shot.
The game won't end when the numbers are tied, it will still go into night phase then we lose the next day, after scums shot.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:59 am
by Arist2D2
Ausuka shh, I've called everyone still alive scum in some fashion. It doesn't look good for us in a 3p lylo.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 3:59 am
by Arist2D2
Beep.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:08 am
by Darth Easy Baker
Well, if Boon's gonna play out the game when the result is already known, then I guess he can, lol, but obviously town should be assuming they still have a chance to win.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:24 am
by Boonskiies
In post 1416, Darth Easy Baker wrote:
Mod: Are vengekills mandatory?


If not, and we mislynch today, they shouldn't kill anyone.
Yes, mandatory if a townie is misexecuted.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:32 am
by Darth Easy Baker
VOTE: No Lynch
Best move is double NL then.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:04 am
by Ki Adi Joandi
In post 1416, Darth Easy Baker wrote:
Mod: Are vengekills mandatory?


If not, and we mislynch today, they shouldn't kill anyone.
In post 1417, Arist2D2 wrote:If I didn't scumread you before I sure do now.
How so? Assuming 4-1 now ot makes sense to go into the night as 3-1, thus 2-1 tomorrow with another chance to either lynch scum or vengekill them.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:06 am
by Ki Adi Joandi
In post 1420, Arist2D2 wrote:We have finally come to the consensus that Tytitus is town. The Shiro kill kind of backs that up. Shiro dying instead of ki adi makes me second guess and my partner thinks he could be Deb's partner, I think it's Nute but I'm not solid on ki adi being town like I was the rest of the game so my partner can probably talk me into it.
So you think it's 3-2?? We started the game with 4 scums??

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:07 am
by Ki Adi Joandi
In post 1421, Arist2D2 wrote:I'm playing under the assumption we are already in lylo and no shooting loses the game if we lynch town.
OK. Carry on

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:08 am
by Ki Adi Joandi
In post 1422, Darth Easy Baker wrote:Explain to me how we can win if it's 3:2 and we lynch town, they vengekill scum, and town dies overnight.
True, but I'm assuming Ausuka's talking (at least I hope she is)

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:13 am
by Ki Adi Joandi
In post 1428, Arist2D2 wrote:Anyway yeah if nothing changes today we're probably going to vote Deb.
he is mechanically correct so you want to lynch him??

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:14 am
by Almost50
In post 1429, Arist2D2 wrote:
In post 1426, Darth Easy Baker wrote:
In post 1424, Arist2D2 wrote:Lynching town loses regardless but yeah.
Exactly. So if we do lynch town, and the game's not over...

... there's obviously only 3 scum, so the lynched player should hold their shot.
The game won't end when the numbers are tied, it will still go into night phase then we lose the next day, after scums shot.
What's the bloody difference? If there are 2 scums alive we lose upon a mislynch anyway. That's was the whole point.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:15 am
by Ki Adi Joandi
In post 1440, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1429, Arist2D2 wrote:
In post 1426, Darth Easy Baker wrote:
In post 1424, Arist2D2 wrote:Lynching town loses regardless but yeah.
Exactly. So if we do lynch town, and the game's not over...

... there's obviously only 3 scum, so the lynched player should hold their shot.
The game won't end when the numbers are tied, it will still go into night phase then we lose the next day, after scums shot.
What's the bloody difference? If there are 2 scums alive we lose upon a mislynch anyway. That's was the whole point.
:oops:

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:15 am
by Ki Adi Joandi
That's what happens when I get over excited, whether it be joy or pain.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:17 am
by Ki Adi Joandi
In post 1434, Darth Easy Baker wrote:VOTE: No Lynch
Best move is double NL then.
Are we letting scum decide who they want to take to LyLo??

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:17 am
by Arist2D2
In post 1438, Ki Adi Joandi wrote:
In post 1422, Darth Easy Baker wrote:Explain to me how we can win if it's 3:2 and we lynch town, they vengekill scum, and town dies overnight.
True, but I'm assuming Ausuka's talking (at least I hope she is)
Uhh, not sure what this means but that was RCE at daystart, I was the one who came in afterwards to say SS was mechanically correct.

Me wanting to lynch him has nothing to do with mechanics? I've scumread him since yesterday.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:22 am
by Arist2D2
Not sure how I feel about double nl, there's no doubt about the advantage it could provide, but why are we just assuming there are 3 scum? Like, everyone viewed it as roughly 50/50 yesterday I think and it's not like we have seen the inactive power?

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:26 am
by Darth Easy Baker
Assuming 3 scum gives us the most realistic chance of actually winning.

And I don't really care about scum choosing who goes to LYLO. Even if we lynch and shoot randomly in LYLO, we have a 2/3 chance to win.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:37 am
by Boonskiies
In post 1433, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1416, Darth Easy Baker wrote:
Mod: Are vengekills mandatory?


If not, and we mislynch today, they shouldn't kill anyone.
Yes, mandatory if a townie is misexecuted.
The kills will happen simultaneously.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:43 am
by Arist2D2
In post 1439, Ki Adi Joandi wrote:
In post 1428, Arist2D2 wrote:Anyway yeah if nothing changes today we're probably going to vote Deb.
he is mechanically correct so you want to lynch him??
Being right on mechanics doesn't make him not scum.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:44 am
by Arist2D2
I'm gonna sheep Ausuka and say it's just deb/ki adi. She was right on palpatine and right on obi so far.