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[Iconeum]

but you can check

+1 can confirm, scum!nom would never lie down and do nothing esp. now

what would town!nom be doing right now?

[Vorkuta]

Idk, town!nom never made it this far in my games

[Iconeum]

Idk, town!nom never made it this far in my games

[Iconeum]

i just opened 2 random finished games with nom in it, both nom town PR, both killed N1

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[Iconeum]

@vorkuta, can you re-skim nomnom ISO and tell me you think that's town!nom who's trying to steer me away from PM lynch?

[shos]

@mod, did we at any time in this game have confirmation that Korina was a VT? Is it possible this information dissapeared?

Uhh you asking about korina is fine, but me isn't, right?

First off, Korina isn't dead. Korina is MODKILLED. Stop talking about this. Second, if I had any relevant information I'd have claimed it already.

I am a Town Medium. During night, I can be visited by dead players. If they do, I will have dreams according to their choice if they decide to contact me. Nothing happened so far. At all.

This is the full extent of my role. I ca

someone who has been killed is dead.
Your claim is extremely underwhelming, considering that korina was dead long before she was modkilled. You don't suppose a player might actually want to talk to someone when they're playing mafia right?
So Drew died, and didn't want to talk to you either; PM is scum so meh ok, but ... Really?

And why on Earth would you stall claiming such a useless role which has no effect on the game whatsoever?

[shos]

Honestly this claim made me extremely doubtful about my townread on icon

[Iconeum]

Ur talking about weeks ago, not now. also, it was extremely relevant to know wether or not Korina was a VT, AND not to mention I asked that particular question because Cyrus claimed that the information WAS available, but the 'mod removed it'.

As for your comment about being dead, no. Being modkilled =/= being dead.

I don't know why I haven't been having dreams. Have you considered the fact that MAYBE they don't know they can? Or MAYBE they know, but not who? I've fully claimed all I know, and I tried baiting the NK by leaving some in the open while actually being a useless role.

Do you honestly have doubts about my claim?

[Iconeum]

oh apparently you do

[Iconeum]

Don't know what else to say wrt to my role tho. I've crumbed it from the beginning of the game, I've not withheld crucial information.

[Iconeum]

shos you've been consistenly drawing alot of what i'm saying out of context here.... please stop

[Iconeum]

Uhh you asking about korina is fine, but me isn't, right?

Post from weeks ago, completely game relevant. Unrelated to what's happening now.

[Iconeum]

Your claim is extremely underwhelming, considering that korina was dead long before she was modkilled. You don't suppose a player might actually want to talk to someone when they're playing mafia right?

what part from 'i can be visited AT NIGHT' didn't you get?
When was Korina modkilled? DAY 1? Oh right, she Korina had NO WAY to visit me.

[Iconeum]

Honestly this claim made me extremely doubtful about my townread on icon

why did you have a townread on me in the first place?

[shos]

Because your posting seemed good motivated. In general you looked like you were actually trying to solve something. I don't remember exact posts and or events about which we talked, but I got a firm town motivation from your posts.

Now, this claim seems bad as fuck.
1. You have a passive role, so you're not actually a PR and this really doesn't change anything balance wise
2. You say that nobody contacted you - not even RC.
2.a. if they didn't know they can - then this role is completely nullified
3. It took you SO LONG to actually claim. The massclaim shit has started 600 posts ago. What took you so long? What benefit did you think was going to come out of claiming NOW? The whole surrounding of your claim sounds extremely bad.

I don't feel good about this

[shos]

Also, for protocol, modkilling a player in a bastard game is really not so uncommon. Modkilled players are, usually, given access to dead PT and are considered dead, even though the turned-survivor sort of is supposed to make them autoloss so they don't have motivation to help anyone if they still can.

[shos]

Since deadline is looming soon, can we get, please,

Everyone's opinion about this claim

[Iconeum]

wait what would you call my role if not a PR? I'm definitely not a VT... I never gave any indication that I'm actually usefull/powerfull or anything like that. I've literally stated multiple times that if I had something usefull to say wrt to my claim, I'd have done so.

I was literally trying to bait the NK towards me.

And last but not least, YOU WILL NOT GIVE ME CRAP ABOUT THE WHOLE MASSCLAIM FIASCO. YOU ARE GODDAMN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FUCKING TERRIBLE WAY THAT WENT DOWN

/rant

[shos]

I'm going to lol at you for calling me responsible for that
I was against massclaim. And I claimed. If anyone wanted the claiming process to proceed they could claim.

This last argument about drawing the NK is a bit fishy too, if I may add, since everyone claimed VT.

[Iconeum]

2. You say that nobody contacted you - not even RC.2.a. if they didn't know they can - then this role is completely nullified

why would i even lie about this?

[Iconeum]

like, what's even your problem with my claim?

that i've not fully claimed yet, or that it's just completely fake?

[shos]

I dunno man. It just feels bad.

[Iconeum]

I've started hinting towards my role from the beginning of the game. Once I saw someone mention dreams I jumped right ontop of that. I've crumbed towards it multiple times ever since.

I don't know how this is designed, but i've been completely honest about everything here.

ffs shos, ur even trying to discredit me for 'claiming pr' when 'i'm not a pr' WHILE I CLEARLY AM

[Iconeum]

I'm going to lol at you for calling me responsible for that
I was against massclaim. And I claimed. If anyone wanted the claiming process to proceed they could claim.

This last argument about drawing the NK is a bit fishy too, if I may add, since everyone claimed VT.

You completely fucked up the gamestate with how you went about the massclaim. It's. A. Fact.

But fine. If you wanna believe i'm being theatrical and faked my trying to sort in nom and you, that's just fine. Draw your conclusion.

[nomnomnom]

Ico you are deadly wrong. The reason I tend to get nightkilled night 1 is because I tend to bring cohesion as town. In this game I guess I wasn't that good at it though and a lot of things frustrated me.

Regardless I'm scum. I just can't be assed lol