Mini Normal 2148 (Post Game)

[geraintm]

Yeah im not dealing with any more assholes

mod replace me.

Ah man. I didnt even think this game was that bad. And I've been in one or two. Sorry you are not having fun

[geraintm]

This might even suggest some scum are in the passive players group

All 3 scum won’t be passive or it’s a sure fire loss for them and they know it

You need 1 agg 1 pass 1 in between

Cant play a game with such simplistic reads on the meta. You'll get trapped sooner or later. Usually sooner

[geraintm]

My pool is a mix of three factors:

Ger+stun circa 274
Stun+Dunn+vot circa 389 (targeting GC)
Bob circa the first 30pages not expressing one firm read then calling Dunn town. Also votato and stun both have bob town.

273 and 274? Really, that's what ypive got?

Sorry for absence, wife's birthday here and hottest day of the year

This is so dismissive. What’s wrong with the case? Can you articulate in words? Can you point out where you have put in more analysis?

Did you read my 273. It was a joke. Nothing more. There was zero content to it. It was meant to have zero content. How anyone can get a read from it baffles me

[geraintm]

Yeah , I do think no lynch is better than a bad lynch. Odds for town tomorrow are better at 9/12 than 8/11

Wait.

What the actual hell?

Not only should you know better that no lynches are bad,

but also a no lynch

would specifically undermine your ability to be productive

, as you have said your bad/lazy in D1 because there is no flip to work off of.

If we no lynch, then there's no flip for D2. And you're going to be just as bad.

There is no flip, but someone of town will leave the night with more info than we went in with. I think the little info we get on who voted for the lynch isnt worth losing a member of the town. I cant recall the last game I was in that scum was lynched night one. Why sacrifice a townie?

[geraintm]

thought I would lok over Dunnstral, as they are currently the biggest wagon.

they are throwing arounda bunch of "they are mafia" posts very easily.
they have a few posts where they say they think someone is town.

they seem a bit trigger happy with their calling people scum, but overall...nothing here I am too upset about yet.

I think this is the post where I defended Dunn.
I remember feeling like I really should look over people in the game, and looking at the person with the most votes was the obvious place to start. If everyone else was thinking they were scummy, could I see it too? Maybe join the wagon.

I looked. I saw nothing to get upset about. And said so.
I wouldn't say it was a hard felt defence of them though. I didnt try and start an alternative wagon on anyone, it was just me going Meh to it

[Porkens]

I’m not voting you yet mala but I’m worried my fears are true

No, I’m town I’m just having a rocky start.

Mala o have a general townread on, votes on clidd and Dunn were fine. A thing that really sticks out to was that post after initial case on the “partners HK and votato” got so blown up.
“No I’m town” is something I’ve used as scum when almost lynched d1.

[Porkens]

Its the context that is AI. Dunn was parking his vote on a nogo wagon at a time when he was under scrutiny. That’s a “safe” vote, right?

I don't see how a scum under pressure is more inclined to vote someone that's not going to get traction (what's the benefit? people think it's *so* bland that it's town?), rather than voting for someone who will get traction (benefit being pressure shifting away).

It gives the appearance of doing something while preventing the opportunity for town to learn anything.

[Porkens]

My pool is a mix of three factors:

Ger+stun circa 274
Stun+Dunn+vot circa 389 (targeting GC)
Bob circa the first 30pages not expressing one firm read then calling Dunn town. Also votato and stun both have bob town.

273 and 274? Really, that's what ypive got?

Sorry for absence, wife's birthday here and hottest day of the year

This is so dismissive. What’s wrong with the case? Can you articulate in words? Can you point out where you have put in more analysis?

Did you read my 273. It was a joke. Nothing more. There was zero content to it. It was meant to have zero content. How anyone can get a read from it baffles me

I don’t understand the joke, explain it to me. Why go out of your way to post exactly zero content?

[stungun0404]

Germa we are at the eleventh hour of the day. With no lynch approaching and yet you are still on your vanity vote. You keep saying shogun is wrong but who do you think is the best lynch today. Because as it stands we are a poaching the deadline and porkens is the lead lynch. Followed by dun and green.

Do you see a no lynch as better than lynching Porkens?

As if you are town that what your lack of anything but vanity vote is contributing too.


As most of your posts have been about how you don't like shoguns pushes but you have not come up with any of your own. So who do you want to lynch today? That is a realistic prospect.

Yeah , I do think no lynch is better than a bad lynch. Odds for town tomorrow are better at 9/12 than 8/11

I think this together with your point of not claiming today is scummy. You are pretty high on my lynch list next day phase, and I hope others see what I am seeing here too. Both are anti-town perspectives.

[geraintm]

Would it help you to encourage different wagons to form then in order to try and see how things evolve?

That is an excellent idea.

Wagons Assemble!!!!

{Did I do it right?}

This post is clearly a joke. Did you read it and think it was serious?

[geraintm]

Germa we are at the eleventh hour of the day. With no lynch approaching and yet you are still on your vanity vote. You keep saying shogun is wrong but who do you think is the best lynch today. Because as it stands we are a poaching the deadline and porkens is the lead lynch. Followed by dun and green.

Do you see a no lynch as better than lynching Porkens?

As if you are town that what your lack of anything but vanity vote is contributing too.


As most of your posts have been about how you don't like shoguns pushes but you have not come up with any of your own. So who do you want to lynch today? That is a realistic prospect.

Yeah , I do think no lynch is better than a bad lynch. Odds for town tomorrow are better at 9/12 than 8/11

I think this together with your point of not claiming today is scummy. You are pretty high on my lynch list next day phase, and I hope others see what I am seeing here too. Both are anti-town perspectives.

It isnscummy to want more town to be alive on day 2?
How is that anti town?

[stungun0404]

No flip only benefits scum because they get to choose a nightkill, meaning we lose probably a towny player, all the while all are main scumspects are still alive and we can't make heads of tails of anything.

No kill is highly beneficial to scum on D1.

[stungun0404]

*our main scumspects

[stungun0404]

i like Porkens posting

I do think his flip would be very informative associative wise, though.

Well...this is a bad reason to lynch someone day 1

Yeah, but who else made this point and you didn't call out?

HK and Porkens both on Dunnstral.l.

[stungun0404]

I am shook rn.

I was reading gerain as townlean but that no lynch suggestion is scummy as hell

Yeah, so is his early waiting out point, and his no claim point.

I say we lynch him tomorrow.

[Green Crayons]

Germa we are at the eleventh hour of the day. With no lynch approaching and yet you are still on your vanity vote. You keep saying shogun is wrong but who do you think is the best lynch today. Because as it stands we are a poaching the deadline and porkens is the lead lynch. Followed by dun and green.

Do you see a no lynch as better than lynching Porkens?

As if you are town that what your lack of anything but vanity vote is contributing too.


As most of your posts have been about how you don't like shoguns pushes but you have not come up with any of your own. So who do you want to lynch today? That is a realistic prospect.

Yeah , I do think no lynch is better than a bad lynch. Odds for town tomorrow are better at 9/12 than 8/11

I think this together with your point of not claiming today is scummy. You are pretty high on my lynch list next day phase, and I hope others see what I am seeing here too. Both are anti-town perspectives.

It isnscummy to want more town to be alive on day 2?
How is that anti town?

With a 2006 registration date, you're telling me you've never had this theory discussion about D1 no lynches?

[stungun0404]

I think geraintm is scum, and regardless of what Porkens might flip, we should lynch him either today or next day phase. Most if not all of his theory discussion has only beneficial to scum, thus he is pro-scum, and very likely scum.

If he's town, his theories so far are awfully harmful to town.

[bob3141]

Germa I can't believe you would rather a no lynch over porkens.

If you were town I would have thought if you didnt want to lynch porkens because you genuinely town read him you would have gone for some who you thought was scum. To stop the lynch of a player you thought was town. And not simply vanity voted.

If you are town. Instead you want to simply kick the can down the road. Letting scum have a free kill with us losing a mislynch. Our chance at actual killing scum.

[stungun0404]

Vote Count 1.17

Porkens (4):

bob3141, votato, Green Crayons, stungun0404

Dunnstral (3):

DoctorPepper, Porkens, Malakittens

votato (2):

Not_Mafia, farside22

HK 50(1):

Dunnstral

notscience (1):

geraintm

stungun0404 (1):

HK 50

Not voting (1):

notscience

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Mod Notes:

Majority is 7 players.

Day 1 has begun and will end in (expired on 2020-06-25 21:18:29).[/area]

Less than 9 hours to settle on a vote, guys. No more than 4 votes on anyone.

I would be open to starting a wagon on geraintm, but I don't know if we are going to get 6 votes there in time, so I am kinda stuck there.

Porkens I think would vote there, probably GC, maybe Bob who voted him at an earlier point if he pops in, but who else?

[bob3141]

The thing is you claim to be town not wanting a no lynch but I have never seen you say that before. In fact i dont think ive ever seen town you push for no lynch, instead you ahve always been ona wagon by now.

[stungun0404]

*7 votes

VOTE: Geraintm

I will gladly switch to Porkens if we don't think this is feasible.

[bob3141]

I would be up for germa. If he is town i fear what will happen last game will happen again.

In last day he held off voting till last day and we ended up lynchign our rolestopper. Day 4 his vote was dead log. So we were in effect already in lylo and it allowed scum to play off a tvtvt situation. And make us think out of two it was him that was the scum.

[bob3141]

VOTE: Geraintm

And i have never seen town germa not go for a lynch. Even when his vote was dead log

[stungun0404]

@GC, are you willing to lynch Gera?

Porkens, how about you?

He's not flipping town with the anti-town theories he is spewing IMO. If somebody is spewing anti-town theory more than one time, that is a good sign they are scum.

Plus he has only had 2 votes on him the entire day phase -- me and Bob. why are people so resistant if he is not scum?

[bob3141]

In teh first game he kept saying. He was happy with any lynch. and that was big reason he got run up that game. So for him to say he wants no lynch is very out of character