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[Iconeum]

i see my vote is parked inside the spoiler and i'm not sure if that's enough for our mod so

VOTE: janko

just to be sure

[Iconeum]

omg dat pagetop

yeye

let'sgettemboys

[Iconeum]

ico by the time i get to page 57 you better have a vote on janko you hear

i just checked

my vote is literally the last post on page 56

[Iconeum]

has this sudden shift of reading snow/bob been explained? imma bet not

dEfeAtiSm

clAsSic ScuM rObOOt

[Datisi]

where tf has either snow or bob been defeatist tho? last i remember from snowblaze, she was adamant in arguing with me about hellbooks (which i just realized i never replied to, oops)

[Iconeum]

i'm still awaiting answers from janko on that

[Iconeum]

the defeatism is apparently coming from snow's last post where it reps out

and the classic scum robot is apparently the opening and posts from bob in general

yeah

[jankofan]

scum are more prone to defeatism than town when they get pushed because their entire job is to survive. I said the exit post feels like it's trying not to appear defeatist.

I mean I feel like you don't understand that I'm reading people based on shallow intuitions at this stage with no flips and you're expecting perfectly logical reasons for having voted people and using that as the basis to push me is scummy aswell. which makes sense because I'm pretty sure you're actually scum.

that's actually where the idea of scum robot comes into it. scum don't have intuitions because they have the burden of not having anything to have intuitions about, nothing to solve they're just filling gaps on ways that are convenient. bob feels like he's latching onto details and trying to logic his way through reads and it's not reading that their compelled by their own statements. reading back over snow in hindsight I get the same vibe actually. contrast that to datisi who seems pretty emotionally invested in her read and push on me being justified and corroborated which would be harder to fake.

[jankofan]

also i'm just skimming along but around page 54 bob is being very townie i don't think i want to kill him : (

[jankofan]

bob pushing me if scum is an attempt to pocket datisi.

also i'm just skimming along but around page 54 bob is being very townie i don't think i want to kill him : (

lol

[Datisi]

I mean I feel like you don't understand that I'm reading people based on shallow intuitions at this stage with no flips and you're expecting perfectly logical reasons for having voted people and using that as the basis to push me is scummy aswell.

is this gonna be the post you point at to explain why you were on the miskill wagon today?

like i am trying to tell you your read is incredibly fucking shallow and surface level, and you're stuck in your ways, not even wanting to reconsider, while tossing me aside as "ye seems genuine but very wrong : (" since that lets you both (1) not push on me because you know you're not winning that and (2) dismiss my reads

[Datisi]

scum generally don't pocket like "datisi is town. here datisi have my vote."
scum pocket like "hmm... i would say i think you're town, your pushing on me here seems genuine and i think you want to be right"

[Iconeum]

ur missing the point

i can believe you believe what ur saying about defeatism

but i'm arguing that *there is not defeatism to be seen*

nor a tone that suggests actively trying to *not look defeated*

it.just.isn't.there

[Iconeum]

scum are more prone to defeatism than town when they get pushed because their entire job is to survive. I said the exit post feels like it's trying not to appear defeatist.

I mean I feel like you don't understand that I'm reading people based on shallow intuitions at this stage with no flips and you're expecting perfectly logical reasons for having voted people and using that as the basis to push me is scummy aswell. which makes sense because I'm pretty sure you're actually scum.

that's actually where the idea of scum robot comes into it. scum don't have intuitions because they have the burden of not having anything to have intuitions about, nothing to solve they're just filling gaps on ways that are convenient. bob feels like he's latching onto details and trying to logic his way through reads and it's not reading that their compelled by their own statements. reading back over snow in hindsight I get the same vibe actually. contrast that to datisi who seems pretty emotionally invested in her read and push on me being justified and corroborated which would be harder to fake.

1) which part of the repping out post has the tone you say feels like defeatism?

2) which posts from bob make you feel like he's latching onto details and trying to logic his way thru reads. Because yeah, i can totally see why using logic is scum!indicative. /sarcasm

[jankofan]

which read is shallow and surface level? what do you want me to reconsider about?

ye seems genuine but very wrong : (

and lol yeah pretty much. why are you over complicating the game? you're obv town to literally everyone in the game

[Datisi]

which read is shallow and surface level? what do you want me to reconsider about?

ye seems genuine but very wrong : (

and lol yeah pretty much. why are you over complicating the game? you're obv town to literally everyone in the game

your ico read holy hell!! like i have a bajilion games played with him and i'm trying to tell you that being annoyed at getting scumread for wrong reasons is not scum!indicative for him! but no, at the same time "that's obv scum mindset" and "my reads are shallow" fucking lol

"bob is classic scum robot and reading back at snow gives me the same vibe" where??

what tf am i complicating? and what does being obv town have anything to do with anything?

[Iconeum]

i literally want you to case what you say you are seeing

which part of that very small repping out post has that tone

like - literally which words/sentences

and which posts did bob make that make you go all 'this is robot scum'

[Iconeum]

I mean I feel like you don't understand that I'm reading people based on shallow intuitions at this stage with no flips

My dude

ur using stuff like scum!motivation and progression when scumreading me
you are also using meta, and psychology to scumread me

don't give me that you are using 'shallow intuitions' at this stage

if your reads were nothing more then shallow intuition, you should have NO PROBLEM AT ALL by listening to your TOWNREAD'S judgement and at least giving me the benefit of the doubt.

I'm absolutely fine with lynching janko

[Iconeum]

Yo DkKoba

go have a drink and read Janko's progression on bob

then tell me you are still fine going thru with bob lynch

or vote with datisi and me on janko

[Iconeum]

VOTE: snowblaze

ya'll can shout at me as much as you want for this vote

but i think it's needed to get the game moving

would love to see GB's thoughts about all of this

[Iconeum]

oh god ehm

just read that post like it doesn't have that quote in it

[jankofan]

Normal 2157: Succulents

Moderator: Raya36
Backup Moderator: Umlaut
Setup: schadd_
Reviewed: gobbledygook & implosion

Player List:

Spoiler: Living

1. Testarossa
   
   
2. DkKoba
   JamSV
   
   
3. Datisi
   
   
4. Alduskkel
   
   
5. bob3141
   Snowblaze
   
   
6. Iconeum
   
   
7. VP Baltar
   
   
8. GeorgeBailey
   
   
9. Andresvmb
   
   
10. jankofan
    
    
11. NoPowerOverMe
    
    
12. hellbooks
    
    
13. Billy Pilgrim

Spoiler: Dead

Events:

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(expired on 2020-08-13 23:15:00)

lol what ico is doing right now is way more white knighty than my TR on snow earlier

[Iconeum]

janko

stop beating around the bush and please just answer the question

[Iconeum]

it shouldn't be that difficult

highlight which part(s) about the snow post you thought were trying not to sound defeatism

and quote which posts bob made that pinged you like that

[Iconeum]

and while ur at it

could you tell me which posts snow made that got you to townread it, and when rereading were actually scummy like you said?