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In post 1425, PlusJOYED wrote: saudade is because of meta tho

In post 1424, duppin wrote:

In post 1418, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 1417, duppin wrote:

In post 1415, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 1403, duppin wrote:

In post 1402, Noraa wrote: duppin can u try to solve anyone outside of the {saudade} pool?

sure I can follow up on my previous reads:

At the moment I am fairly confident bugspray (although they have dropped a bit), Jester, Norwee are town.

I believe shelly is town as well actually. I have not played with her and most of the scumreads on her seems to be a bit biased on meta but the reads themselves seem to be a bit lackluster to me.
I think someone said it was suspicious of her to do pre flip reads but I disagree with this a lot actually - it is bad if she starts playing around pre flips, but expressing her thoughts on a potential flip is something I find to be a bit more towny albeit easy to fake as scum as well as it helps you set up your read progression in case you get a mislynch through. But the counter argument to that in this case is in my opinion that shelly has been all over the playerlist. I am pretty sure she has called out everyone for something at this point and has engaged with everyone. I have no idea if this is out of her scumrange or not but to me her play jsut comes across as coming from a town perspective.

I still find redados suspicious for the exact same reasons I listed earlier. He hasn't really managed to change my mind, my only concern is still that it almost feels hm I guess too easy? There's not really much defense or counter pressure, it does not mean he isn't scum but it just makes me a bit concerned

As for Saudade I just mentioned it before.

I don't really know about the rest. In fact I am trying to avoid reading you at the moment noraa because every time I try to read you I keep thinking that this could simply be explained by you being a new player. I am kind of leaning of some of the meta reads being thrown at you

can you point us to specific posts? this isnt helpful because i cant track any of your progressions

the interaction between me and Saudade started in 631

can you walk us through posts that made you scum/townread people other than saudade and explain what about the post made you scum/townread the person?

I have no problem elaborating on my reads, but it's not really about specific posts.
However I have asked you to share your Saudade read several times now so I'd like you to do that as well

In post 1429, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 1424, duppin wrote:

In post 1418, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 1417, duppin wrote:

In post 1415, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 1403, duppin wrote:

In post 1402, Noraa wrote: duppin can u try to solve anyone outside of the {saudade} pool?

sure I can follow up on my previous reads:

At the moment I am fairly confident bugspray (although they have dropped a bit), Jester, Norwee are town.

I believe shelly is town as well actually. I have not played with her and most of the scumreads on her seems to be a bit biased on meta but the reads themselves seem to be a bit lackluster to me.
I think someone said it was suspicious of her to do pre flip reads but I disagree with this a lot actually - it is bad if she starts playing around pre flips, but expressing her thoughts on a potential flip is something I find to be a bit more towny albeit easy to fake as scum as well as it helps you set up your read progression in case you get a mislynch through. But the counter argument to that in this case is in my opinion that shelly has been all over the playerlist. I am pretty sure she has called out everyone for something at this point and has engaged with everyone. I have no idea if this is out of her scumrange or not but to me her play jsut comes across as coming from a town perspective.

I still find redados suspicious for the exact same reasons I listed earlier. He hasn't really managed to change my mind, my only concern is still that it almost feels hm I guess too easy? There's not really much defense or counter pressure, it does not mean he isn't scum but it just makes me a bit concerned

As for Saudade I just mentioned it before.

I don't really know about the rest. In fact I am trying to avoid reading you at the moment noraa because every time I try to read you I keep thinking that this could simply be explained by you being a new player. I am kind of leaning of some of the meta reads being thrown at you

can you point us to specific posts? this isnt helpful because i cant track any of your progressions

the interaction between me and Saudade started in 631

can you walk us through posts that made you scum/townread people other than saudade and explain what about the post made you scum/townread the person?

I have no problem elaborating on my reads, but it's not really about specific posts.
However I have asked you to share your Saudade read several times now so I'd like you to do that as well

theres not much to my saudade read. i feel like he should be more active but its irl stuff rather than in game stuff, so he gets a pass for now. i really need you to explain some of your non-saudade reads

In post 1398, duppin wrote:oh as for my own read on Saudade I said early on why I thought he was slightly suspicious earlier, generally it comes to me getting the impression that he was just trying to be heard and make sure he had a presence without actually attempting to game solve. My initial plan was to just give him some time and wait for him to do something. he and a couple of other players talked about him having good reads and I have to admit I thought it was a bit odd how he kept talking about his own good reads while also saying he had no real reads yet since it is early on in the game. Don't get me wrong it obviously makes sense for him to not have good reads yet and it is definitely not fair for me to call him out for that, but i think you will agree that it is harder to fake good reads as scum which was why I wanted to give him some more time to see if he would come with these so called "god reads", but then a little later norwee decided to vote on him which I did not expect, but I decided to join the wagon since I thought it would be interesting to see what would happen. Unfortunately he had to deal with some real life stuff which made the push rather lackluster in my opinion

In post 1403, duppin wrote:am pretty sure she has called out everyone for something at this point and has engaged with everyone. I have no idea if this is out of her scumrange or not but to me her play jsut comes across as coming from a town perspective.

In post 1416, duppin wrote:now that I learned PlusJOYEd had a townread on Saudade as well I am slightly susp of that slot though

In post 1405, duppin wrote:

In post 1376, PlusJOYED wrote:i think saude is a solid townlean too

i missed this, could you explain why you think so?

In post 1376, PlusJOYED wrote:i think saude is a solid townlean too

In post 1377, PlusJOYED wrote:yeah shelly sucks at town sorry not sorry
im not that great either

In post 1381, PlusJOYED wrote:gut sus read here on the wagon

In post 1400, duppin wrote:shelly I'm going to bring this up again simply because I want to know if this is something you are going to follow up on day 1 or not. (at least I do not believe you have followed up on it yet?)

In post 1403, duppin wrote:I believe shelly is town as well actually. I have not played with her and most of the scumreads on her seems to be a bit biased on meta but the reads themselves seem to be a bit lackluster to me.
I think someone said it was suspicious of her to do pre flip reads but I disagree with this a lot actually - it is bad if she starts playing around pre flips, but expressing her thoughts on a potential flip is something I find to be a bit more towny albeit easy to fake as scum as well as it helps you set up your read progression in case you get a mislynch through. But the counter argument to that in this case is in my opinion that shelly has been all over the playerlist. I am pretty sure she has called out everyone for something at this point and has engaged with everyone. I have no idea if this is out of her scumrange or not but to me her play jsut comes across as coming from a town perspective.

In post 1410, PlusJOYED wrote:they seem scummy

In post 1441, shellyc wrote:

In post 1381, PlusJOYED wrote:gut sus read here on the wagon

yay someone is vibing this

joyed are you now jack or megabyte

In post 1433, Odd Day Jester wrote:Why is this post so weird? It sounds defensive and unnatural explaining his own logic/thought process at the time. Maybe it's just the wording that's pinging me.

In post 1426, duppin wrote:as for my top town reads:

bugspray: I explained it in 621 as well(it's related to everything I talked about before that as well though regarding policy lynching etc). as I have said he is definitely dropped off a bit but I still believe he is town.
Jester: I made my stance very clear early on regarding selfvotes and policy lynching. There wasn't really any support for it, so I decided to ISO him and I thought he was pretty town. Main reason for this was him being a leading voice by trying to game solve but also just me finding his thoughts to be very logical and him catching on to some of the same things I did (like the shelly thing I asked her to follow up on; Jester initially questioned this and when shelly did not respond to him he brought it up again even though it seemed like she might have tried to change the subject. I really thought that was a town thing to do especially since I was bothered by the same thing)
Norwee: Early on I went a bit back and forth on him but I thought his interactions with Saudade was pretty town and I quite liked his response to Saudade calling him out. I think overall his play has been rather pro town - I don't really agree with all of his reads but to this is a bit like with Jester in the sense that we seem to notice the same things, best example would be both of us finding it very questionable how people could have a townread on Saudade.

In post 1425, PlusJOYED wrote:saudade is because of meta tho

In post 1239, bugspray wrote:is saud still wagon'd? i think it's wild how he was brought to l-2 when he said he would be gone for a few days and could come back
pressuring inactive slots is a waste of precious town resources. wait until he is back and then go ham