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In post 1332, Andante wrote:PookyTheMagicalBear [4]: Salsabil Faria, Robert M Hunter, Save The Dragons, InsidiousLemons

In post 108, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Andres, you said that osuka's reaction seemed genuine. Can you elaborate? What would an ungenuine reaction from osuka look like?

In post 222, Haschel Cedricson wrote:

In post 180, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 108, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Andres, you said that osuka's reaction seemed genuine. Can you elaborate? What would an ungenuine reaction from osuka look like?

He called me out for lying, which I obviously was since I was simply entering the game and throwing out nonsense. My perception is that osuka would have tried to buddy me if they were not being genuine. Like agreed with my post and voted the same player, or immediately placed me as Town (since I was quite obviously extending an olive branch). Instead, osuka gives me crap about putting misinformation out there. And then later, they question me for “defending them”. That seems like a Town player actually concerned about getting pocketed. So it earns a pass from me.

Mmm, that doesn't quite jibe with me. You clearly were making a joke and expected for it to be taken as a joke. Osuka's reaction of not believing you (prudent) while not acting like it was a blatant joke (not prudent at all) would be the last reaction I would expect.

In post 168, Andresvmb wrote:I can explain what I was trying to do and you guys can tell me what you think.

I didn’t have a strong read of osuka when I first approached the game. But, last time we played, I failed to listen to them (in a way that clearly hurt the Town, since they were correct and I wasn’t), and so I wanted to let them stay in the game, provide input, and see where it lead. Yeah, they’re pretty tricky to read. But I thought I would give it a chance.

Let's talk about this. Can you explain what you mean by "letting them stay in the game"?

As an aside, the game has been open for less than 24 hours; nobody is a lurker yet. Osuka, you have more posts than the second and third most prolific posters combined. Dial it down.

In post 228, Haschel Cedricson wrote:

In post 224, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 222, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Let's talk about this. Can you explain what you mean by "letting them stay in the game"?

Not voting for them and asking for their thoughts.

That is a bizarre way to view the effect of a single vote. But putting that aside, can you show me where you actually ask for their thoughts?

PREVIEW EDIT re 225: Osuka don't you dare comment on this.

In post 235, Haschel Cedricson wrote:

In post 231, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 228, Haschel Cedricson wrote:That is a bizarre way to view the effect of a single vote. But putting that aside, can you show me where you actually ask for their thoughts?

Did you expect to directly ask: can you give me your thoughts on x?

Yes, I do expect that.

Because I haven’t done that.

Ah.

I did however suggest that we vote the player asking for more votes on them. That’s me directly wanting to interact with someone.

That's not you trying to learn Osuka's thoughts; that you trying to get Osuka to go along with your thoughts.

You could just read my posts also.

I did, which is why I asked the question.

In post 1425, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1332, Andante wrote:PookyTheMagicalBear [4]: Salsabil Faria, Robert M Hunter, Save The Dragons, InsidiousLemons

Look who was sitting on Pooky, who you’re defending. And look where Pooky’s vote is. How can you really not find the compromise vote onto T3 to be Scummy as all hell?

In post 1427, Robert M Hunter wrote:

In post 1425, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1332, Andante wrote:PookyTheMagicalBear [4]: Salsabil Faria, Robert M Hunter, Save The Dragons, InsidiousLemons

Look who was sitting on Pooky, who you’re defending. And look where Pooky’s vote is. How can you really not find the compromise vote onto T3 to be Scummy as all hell?

You're calling it a compromise vote. I'm not.

In post 1424, Andante wrote:STD will vote anyone but Crayons... that's definitely weird to me. like anytime there's a wagon, you jump on it...

In post 1421, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1345, Save The Dragons wrote:VOTE: T3

In post 1346, Robert M Hunter wrote:VOTE: T3

In post 1347, Andante wrote:I would vote T3 here... that slot has just had no significant contribution, half me just feels we'd be better just killing it, and living with the consequence of it, cause like, we can't make a read off nothing... at least everyone here has had something relevant, that slot? is a mess...

VOTE: T3

Like this is the sequence. Just when you’ve been fighting Pooky who is the alternative to STD. Do you not see the obvious here?

In post 1109, Asteria wrote:

In post 1012, Save The Dragons wrote:it's not that i believe it, it's that the slot will sort itself out later in the game. if he's a pro town tracker, he's probably going to get killed later and we'll find out. or if he's scum and is still alive later, we can sort it out then. i think there's a better D1 play here.

Agreed, I'm a little iffy on Robert, but now that he's claimed we'll find out soon enough if it's a lie without having to potentially eliminate a power role of ours

In post 1111, Asteria wrote:Can somebody quickly explain the case on dragons? Or link me to an explanation if you already had one

In post 1116, Asteria wrote:I just don't think it's smart to eliminate a claimed tracker D1. And I also think his scum partners would've 1) helped with a better crumb, and 2) told him not to claim at E-2 or whatever it was

In post 1430, Robert M Hunter wrote:

In post 1421, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1345, Save The Dragons wrote:VOTE: T3

In post 1346, Robert M Hunter wrote:VOTE: T3

In post 1347, Andante wrote:I would vote T3 here... that slot has just had no significant contribution, half me just feels we'd be better just killing it, and living with the consequence of it, cause like, we can't make a read off nothing... at least everyone here has had something relevant, that slot? is a mess...

VOTE: T3

Like this is the sequence. Just when you’ve been fighting Pooky who is the alternative to STD. Do you not see the obvious here?

And you won't vote T3, and osuka won't vote T3... maybe that's what we should be looking at.

In post 537, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Prod acknowledged. I am at work and about to head on the road so deep dive will come later. Quick note before I go, though:

In post 520, Andresvmb wrote:Like in all honesty I would rather get executed quickly than spend a whole lot of time re-reading this game when I’m getting pushed for entirely bullshit reasons.

"Scum being upset that they are caught for the wrong reasons" is one of my favorite recurring tropes in these games.

Unvote

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In post 1432, Andante wrote:Robert, there is nothing alignment indicative with not wanting to yeet someone with no lines...

In post 1435, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1432, Andante wrote:Robert, there is nothing alignment indicative with not wanting to yeet someone with no lines...

I just want you to realize that Robert’s viewpoint makes no sense at all. I have a SR of them (I don’t even recall putting out a read of T3 at all btw), but me not “wanting to vote T3” is where they should be looking? C’mon it’s totally unrealistic and absurd. Robert is almost surely Scum (and bad at hiding it), and the Scum are sinking themselves trying to defend them and each other. If STD flips Town, I’ll be amazed.

In post 1437, Save The Dragons wrote:what even is your case on me, andres

In post 1437, Save The Dragons wrote:what even is your case on me, andres

In post 1435, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1432, Andante wrote:Robert, there is nothing alignment indicative with not wanting to yeet someone with no lines...

I just want you to realize that Robert’s viewpoint makes no sense at all. I have a SR of them (I don’t even recall putting out a read of T3 at all btw), but me not “wanting to vote T3” is where they should be looking? C’mon it’s totally unrealistic and absurd. Robert is almost surely Scum (and bad at hiding it), and the Scum are sinking themselves trying to defend them and each other. If STD flips Town, I’ll be amazed.

In post 1421, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1345, Save The Dragons wrote:VOTE: T3

In post 1346, Robert M Hunter wrote:VOTE: T3

In post 1347, Andante wrote:I would vote T3 here... that slot has just had no significant contribution, half me just feels we'd be better just killing it, and living with the consequence of it, cause like, we can't make a read off nothing... at least everyone here has had something relevant, that slot? is a mess...

VOTE: T3

Like this is the sequence. Just when you’ve been fighting Pooky who is the alternative to STD. Do you not see the obvious here?

In post 1440, Andresvmb wrote:You’ve basically been pushing Town consistently. Or

everyone I TR

at least.

In post 1440, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1437, Save The Dragons wrote:what even is your case on me, andres

Just look at your ISO. You’ve basically been pushing Town consistently. Or everyone I TR at least. Your push on me was bad, but you dropped it when you realized I was being TR. And then what did you do? You went to push Andante. I mean that alone is enough for me wanting to get you executed. You’re also strongly defending RMH who is Scummy as all hell.

In post 1442, Robert M Hunter wrote:Maybe Andres wants to eliminate the tracker during the day so he's free to night kill the gunsmith.

In post 1444, Save The Dragons wrote:did you read the part of the game where i voted robert

In post 1444, Save The Dragons wrote:

In post 1440, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1437, Save The Dragons wrote:what even is your case on me, andres

Just look at your ISO. You’ve basically been pushing Town consistently. Or everyone I TR at least. Your push on me was bad, but you dropped it when you realized I was being TR. And then what did you do? You went to push Andante. I mean that alone is enough for me wanting to get you executed. You’re also strongly defending RMH who is Scummy as all hell.

did you read the part of the game where i voted robert or are you just going to glance over that/call that bussing and call it a day

did you read my case against andante before she claimed? did the thought i could be wrong ever cross your mind?

In post 1446, Robert M Hunter wrote:

In post 1444, Save The Dragons wrote:did you read the part of the game where i voted robert

I know my alignment, so that's not to your credit.

In post 1445, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1442, Robert M Hunter wrote:Maybe Andres wants to eliminate the tracker during the day so he's free to night kill the gunsmith.

This speculation is ridiculous since the Gunsmith is most certainly a high value target for the Scum. Just useless speculation.

You know, you need to try and show more nuance in your Scum game. Like you’re actually considering what’s going on. Just SR’ing me when it’s convenient seems bad. Not everyone that’s SR’ing you can be Scum. So maybe I could be going wrong. But you’re just resorting to attacks. That’s what’s getting you killed here.