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In post 1418, Venus Fly Trap wrote:i mean i didn't get the vibe that you were townreading me/us, i thought you were kinda putting us in your scumpool cuz of lilith

Bc I’m not townreading you(pl) I’m townreading you(sing) and jury is still out on your slot overall

Basically

I think I can be wrong on you and right on lili where I’m TRing you and SRing her

But I think that if I’m TRing her then very likely your slot overall is town

Which is why I tried to extend her an olive branch because I would like to talk to her more. Was also never my intention to make her feel like she doesn’t want to play the game and I feel bad if that’s how she took me saying I didn’t wanna speak to her but I was feeling v pissed off at the time with how she was engaging with me

In post 1425, fferyllt wrote:mine

mine is not good enough

In post 1421, Disaster Cartel wrote:

In post 1418, Venus Fly Trap wrote:nacho is just scum here and i'm baffled that you're townreading him: his read progression makes no sense and he's being blatantly oppurtusnistic and survivalistic,

okay can you run me through this more or give me the cliff notes à la Kismet

- uh his townread of me came out of thin air once other people were townreading me
- the timing of his sircakez read was similarly bad
- at a time that he literally didn't have any scumreads, he kept trying to get notsci to commit to sheeping his reads in a way that looked manipulative/buddy-ish (i.e. capatilizing on the fact that notsci respects town-him's reads even tho he didn't have strong reads to speak of at the time)
- his l/g (now peta) vote looked like he was looking for places to vote
- unvoted just cuz peta repped into the slot and was defending him

like idk i don't see much good here

In post 1424, notscience wrote:Mena can you try to explain a scum Mara town nacho world where she doesn’t vote him there over not mafia

Please just humor me

Ninja/
Bulges avatar

hmmn

okay this is an interesting point i guess

i guess if she’s worried it will look so opportunistic that the wagon just switches to her?

Knew it was too good to be true wrt Cakez. Is okay.

wait peta is voting mom too?

pedit VOTE: nacho

In post 1431, Nachomamma8 wrote:

Vote: Momrangal

Knew it was too good to be true wrt Cakez. Is okay.

?

Maybe? But e-1 means not mafia hammers every time. She could then escape overnight.

Bork, I haven't really read in depth since my wall. I won't get the chance until fairly late tomorrow and knowing me that might push until Wednesday. Currently willing to kill any of Mom/Bulge/Not Mafia because I think peta's entrance looked pretty good.

I can wait.

In post 1428, Venus Fly Trap wrote:

In post 1421, Disaster Cartel wrote:

In post 1418, Venus Fly Trap wrote:nacho is just scum here and i'm baffled that you're townreading him: his read progression makes no sense and he's being blatantly oppurtusnistic and survivalistic,

okay can you run me through this more or give me the cliff notes à la Kismet

- uh his townread of me came out of thin air once other people were townreading me
- the timing of his sircakez read was similarly bad
- at a time that he literally didn't have any scumreads, he kept trying to get notsci to commit to sheeping his reads in a way that looked manipulative/buddy-ish (i.e. capatilizing on the fact that notsci respects town-him's reads even tho he didn't have strong reads to speak of at the time)
- his l/g (now peta) vote looked like he was looking for places to vote
- unvoted just cuz peta repped into the slot and was defending him

like idk i don't see much good here

okay so I’m interested in the TR on your slot but and the way he’s approaching notsci (a lot of which I think I missed from when I was really checked out and need to go back through) but I think the other bits aren’t really valid in a scum case on nacho

the cakez read was fine because cakez’ opening , the l/g vote was fine bc the slot was terrible and is still like questionable but (and this applies to final point too) i think peta is decently towny apart from his weird notsci push but either way he’s definitely redeemed the slot from where it was at while l/g were in it

In post 1426, Disaster Cartel wrote:

In post 1418, Venus Fly Trap wrote:i mean i didn't get the vibe that you were townreading me/us, i thought you were kinda putting us in your scumpool cuz of lilith

Bc I’m not townreading you(pl) I’m townreading you(sing) and jury is still out on your slot overall

Basically

I think I can be wrong on you and right on lili where I’m TRing you and SRing her

But I think that if I’m TRing her then very likely your slot overall is town

Which is why I tried to extend her an olive branch because I would like to talk to her more. Was also never my intention to make her feel like she doesn’t want to play the game and I feel bad if that’s how she took me saying I didn’t wanna speak to her but I was feeling v pissed off at the time with how she was engaging with me

she is a little upset by what u said actually
idk
i don't want to defend/towncase the other half of my slot cuz that would be weird but i don't think you're reading her well

and idk i still find it weird that you're reading us off of lilith and not me

In post 1433, Kismet wrote:

In post 1431, Nachomamma8 wrote:

Vote: Momrangal

Knew it was too good to be true wrt Cakez. Is okay.

?

There was a point where Cakez was correctly reading me but I see it didn't last. Is OK. Got all my aggression out there.

In post 1434, notscience wrote:Maybe? But e-1 means not mafia hammers every time. She could then escape overnight.

Only if he’s on before anyone calls out her vote or unvotes

But I take your broader point and I’ll think about it

In post 1437, Disaster Cartel wrote:okay so I’m interested in the TR on your slot but and the way he’s approaching notsci (a lot of which I think I missed from when I was really checked out and need to go back through) but I think the other bits aren’t really valid in a scum case on nacho

the cakez read was fine because cakez’ opening was not good, the l/g vote was fine bc the slot was terrible and is still like questionable but (and this applies to final point too) i think peta is decently towny apart from his weird notsci push but either way he’s definitely redeemed the slot from where it was at while l/g were in it

ok see if you can explain his townread on me, i'll wait
wrt sircakez i meant the timing of his townread on him and not his scumread on him; i decided i'm ignoring the popcorn mafia bits
i don't really like the l/g vote, and don't think peta has been townie (and don't think you can just brush off the 'weird' notsci push, but ok)
and i wouldn't really say peta's redeemed the slot either

In post 1438, Venus Fly Trap wrote:she is a little upset by what u said actually
idk
i don't want to defend/towncase the other half of my slot cuz that would be weird but i don't think you're reading her well

and idk i still find it weird that you're reading us off of lilith and not me

okay well like, can you convey to her that I didn’t want for that to happen and that id like to talk to her

and I’m not asking you to do that, but I would like to read her more

Idk why you’re finding this weird, when have I ever been that confident in my ability to read you? I don’t think I’ve confidently proclaimed your alignment *on D1* since Ali v pine which is damn near two years and who knows how many games ago now

In post 1441, Venus Fly Trap wrote:don't think peta has been townie (and don't think you can just brush off the 'weird' notsci push, but ok)

I think it’s quite explicable as notsci is being dickish in how he’s pushing his reads and if I didn’t already TR him I can see how peta being pissed off with him translated that into seeing him as scum

I think he’ll come round but I think notsci’s “oh sorry you repped into a scum slot” would be frustrating as either alignment and I think it’s pretty NAI that peta SR it

In post 1441, Venus Fly Trap wrote:ok see if you can explain his townread on me, i'll wait

If it makes you feel better I'm working back to a scumread on you!

In post 1442, Disaster Cartel wrote:

In post 1438, Venus Fly Trap wrote:she is a little upset by what u said actually
idk
i don't want to defend/towncase the other half of my slot cuz that would be weird but i don't think you're reading her well

and idk i still find it weird that you're reading us off of lilith and not me

okay well like, can you convey to her that I didn’t want for that to happen and that id like to talk to her

and I’m not asking you to do that, but I would like to read her more

Idk why you’re finding this weird, when have I ever been that confident in my ability to read you? I don’t think I’ve confidently proclaimed your alignment *on D1* since Ali v pine which is damn near two years and who knows how many games ago now

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- i passed the message along
- i'm >90% sure i was not in that game
- i feel like nearly every game i've played with you you usually try to find town-me as a priority and you hadn't really been prioritizing that here

In post 1443, Disaster Cartel wrote:

In post 1441, Venus Fly Trap wrote:don't think peta has been townie (and don't think you can just brush off the 'weird' notsci push, but ok)

I think it’s quite explicable as notsci is being dickish in how he’s pushing his reads and if I didn’t already TR him I can see how peta being pissed off with him translated that into seeing him as scum

I think he’ll come round but I think notsci’s “oh sorry you repped into a scum slot” would be frustrating as either alignment and I think it’s pretty NAI that peta SR it

peta isn't really the sort ot get pissed off at tho, and also i don't think that would lead him to scumread someone

@nacho, no it doesn't really make me feel better but i'm not really that surprised

You were in the avengers hydra and you were the sole reason why that game was hell for me from like D3 on

Ty for passing the message

I think the difference is I don’t really do that? I just assume town!you until there’s evidence proving otherwise and mostly that works out pretty well. I think I’ve already covered why I’m not here, and it’s because the scum!rand % is so high. But I think we’re getting to the point where we’re just going in circles. You’re gonna find it weird that I’m not like more invested in reading your head but I’m still gonna keep townreading you but not committing to a hard read on your overall slot until I have a better handle on lili

In post 1446, Venus Fly Trap wrote:peta isn't really the sort ot get pissed off at tho, and also i don't think that would lead him to scumread someone

This doesn’t really jam that well with what I know of peta who I think has been generally quite emotional and prickly when I’ve played with him

I’m particularly thinking JK9++ when he felt he was getting shitpushed in the later game sections

Idk I’m curious about infinity on peta actually