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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:48 am

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In post 1261, catboi wrote:On a skim I actually think norwee might be scum here. The towniest thing he had was his dust-up with malcolm, but other than that he's been floating and it reminds me a lot of his play in control where he was the SK. He'll call people town but it doesn't seem like he had reads he actually cares about and as town generally he finds something he wants to push and actually tries to solve.
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:49 am

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In post 1390, Well Done wrote:My immediate paranoia to spotting this is that they are scum together. That in the scum chat they were talking about the playerlist, and catobi said basically this idea as a worry that pooky would likely end up tunneled on him for this reason.

So, when Flavor Leaf saw TB present a scum reads list of 3 names, and saw both catboi and himself on it, he stepped in to discredit the TB push based on this idea.

Then Catboi came in, saw the wagon building on him, he made a post to discredit the TB push based on this idea.

This would make sense as an explanation on why Flavor Leaf went from saying that they were gonna keep on Lurking

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In post 911, Flavor Leaf wrote:Y'all dont need me hyper posting in a multiball on Day 1 anyways.


To hyper posting the shit out of this game. Like, they went from making post 911 saying they were not going to hyperpost, to becoming the number 1 top poster in the thread over the course of 12 hours.

[This was actually the thing that I was looking into when I spotted the similarities btw. I was looking to see what caused such a massive change in his mindset and approach to this game.]

But, I need to look at FL's then push on catboi to see if that makes any sense... I wish Dunn was online :/
And, what, you think FL is bussing me on day 1, Luke? Come on.
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:50 am

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In post 1424, Menalque wrote:
In post 1399, Flavor Leaf wrote:I don't see a purpose of scum claiming to be VT and locking themselves in this early.
You can’t see me but I’m making a face where I’m frowning and my lips are pushed together and pulled back into my mouth

It’s meant to convey extreme scepticism
Newbie VT claims are real 99% of the time. And I believe SoD's claims of their experience level.
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:52 am

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In post 1423, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Norwegian - Thoughts on Catboi setting up a pivot towards you?
In post 1425, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1261, catboi wrote:On a skim I actually think norwee might be scum here. The towniest thing he had was his dust-up with malcolm, but other than that he's been floating and it reminds me a lot of his play in control where he was the SK. He'll call people town but it doesn't seem like he had reads he actually cares about and as town generally he finds something he wants to push and actually tries to solve.
That's not "setting up a pivot", that's forming a read. I had no real thoughts on Norwee this game, he was wagoning me, I went to ISO him and came back with my thoughts.
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:52 am

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In post 1424, Menalque wrote:
In post 1399, Flavor Leaf wrote:I don't see a purpose of scum claiming to be VT and locking themselves in this early.
You can’t see me but I’m making a face where I’m frowning and my lips are pushed together and pulled back into my mouth

It’s meant to convey extreme scepticism
I double down on the sentiment that locking yourself in as VT here in a large Multiball is not good.

What if you get guiltied? What if you have to make a kill and get tracked?

The only thing they avoid is possibly the other scum team's night kill, which I doubt Sword was going to be targeted anyways.

I do see some reasons actually, but why claim VT there. Why do it the way they did? So idk what that skepticism's about :lol:
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:52 am

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In post 1428, catboi wrote:
In post 1423, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Norwegian - Thoughts on Catboi setting up a pivot towards you?
In post 1425, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1261, catboi wrote:On a skim I actually think norwee might be scum here. The towniest thing he had was his dust-up with malcolm, but other than that he's been floating and it reminds me a lot of his play in control where he was the SK. He'll call people town but it doesn't seem like he had reads he actually cares about and as town generally he finds something he wants to push and actually tries to solve.
That's not "setting up a pivot", that's forming a read. I had no real thoughts on Norwee this game, he was wagoning me, I went to ISO him and came back with my thoughts.

if you are town, yes.

If you are scum, no.
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:52 am

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The scepticism is about being locked in as VT
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:53 am

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In post 1431, Menalque wrote:The scepticism is about being locked in as VT

Oh, lol. They are locked in as VT.

If I claimed VT, that's a different story.
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:54 am

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In post 1427, catboi wrote:
In post 1424, Menalque wrote:
In post 1399, Flavor Leaf wrote:I don't see a purpose of scum claiming to be VT and locking themselves in this early.
You can’t see me but I’m making a face where I’m frowning and my lips are pushed together and pulled back into my mouth

It’s meant to convey extreme scepticism
Newbie VT claims are real 99% of the time. And I believe SoD's claims of their experience level.
That may be true in a normal game but this is not a normal game.
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:54 am

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In post 1426, catboi wrote:
In post 1390, Well Done wrote: I need to look at FL's then push on catboi to see if that makes any sense... I wish Dunn was online :/
And, what, you think FL is bussing me on day 1, Luke? Come on.
I mean, I had that exact thought about this paranoia, and then expressed that in the post that you quoted. Sorry you missed it.
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:55 am

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Did someone CC Beloved Princess, or i am wrong from skim?
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:55 am

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SoD is the towniest player in this game.
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:55 am

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In post 1436, Flavor Leaf wrote:SoD is the towniest player in this game.
Even you?
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:55 am

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In post 1437, Enchant wrote:
In post 1436, Flavor Leaf wrote:SoD is the towniest player in this game.
Even you?
I'm not townie, im just town.
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:56 am

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In post 1438, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1437, Enchant wrote:
In post 1436, Flavor Leaf wrote:SoD is the towniest player in this game.
Even you?
I'm not townie, im just town.
wtf
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:56 am

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So maybe SoD is "townie, but scum." Not that I buy the townie part.
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:57 am

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In post 1440, MonkeyMan576 wrote:So maybe SoD is "townie, but scum." Not that I buy the townie part.

bruh, they were newb town telling left and right.

I think you're just thinking too much into it.
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:57 am

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In post 1435, Enchant wrote:Did someone CC Beloved Princess, or i am wrong from skim?
no one did this
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:58 am

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In post 1430, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1428, catboi wrote:
In post 1423, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Norwegian - Thoughts on Catboi setting up a pivot towards you?
In post 1425, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1261, catboi wrote:On a skim I actually think norwee might be scum here. The towniest thing he had was his dust-up with malcolm, but other than that he's been floating and it reminds me a lot of his play in control where he was the SK. He'll call people town but it doesn't seem like he had reads he actually cares about and as town generally he finds something he wants to push and actually tries to solve.
That's not "setting up a pivot", that's forming a read. I had no real thoughts on Norwee this game, he was wagoning me, I went to ISO him and came back with my thoughts.

if you are town, yes.

If you are scum, no.
I mean, if I were scum, it would be a genuine read regardless, no?

Of course, the thing is, Norwee isn't a player who would be good to push as scum. He might blow up under pressure but that also gives him the chance to start obvtowning and then he stops being pushable and has more sway in the game. I try not push potentially volatile players as scum because it has a strong chance of backfiring. Was kind of like how I handled Andante in my game with Menalque.
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:59 am

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Also, this makes no sense for Monkey, who has potential to become the main wagon right now, to be pushing Sword in this way.

I believe this is Town Monkey falling on a Town Sword.

Making Nashville scum much more likely. =/
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:59 am

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In post 1435, Enchant wrote:Did someone CC Beloved Princess, or i am wrong from skim?
Someone joked about cc'ing if they were a malefactor, but no one did cc. Maybe that is what gave you that impression?
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:59 am

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So Well done found an Eternal Heart, looks like FL is grabbing the Black Hearts
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:00 am

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In post 1443, catboi wrote:
In post 1430, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1428, catboi wrote:
In post 1423, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Norwegian - Thoughts on Catboi setting up a pivot towards you?
In post 1425, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1261, catboi wrote:On a skim I actually think norwee might be scum here. The towniest thing he had was his dust-up with malcolm, but other than that he's been floating and it reminds me a lot of his play in control where he was the SK. He'll call people town but it doesn't seem like he had reads he actually cares about and as town generally he finds something he wants to push and actually tries to solve.
That's not "setting up a pivot", that's forming a read. I had no real thoughts on Norwee this game, he was wagoning me, I went to ISO him and came back with my thoughts.

if you are town, yes.

If you are scum, no.
I mean, if I were scum, it would be a genuine read regardless, no?

Of course, the thing is, Norwee isn't a player who would be good to push as scum. He might blow up under pressure but that also gives him the chance to start obvtowning and then he stops being pushable and has more sway in the game. I try not push potentially volatile players as scum because it has a strong chance of backfiring. Was kind of like how I handled Andante in my game with Menalque.
why do you believe you can't use a genuine read as a pivot? if anything I think that's a better scum move.

You weren't pushing Norwee, though, you said it was just a read.
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:00 am

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I have not understood a single post that the Keeper has made. x.x
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:01 am

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I take it back. I understood their posts about Mastina.
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