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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:54 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
Mala you're lynching pitoli tomorrow, okay?

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:55 pm
by Malakittens
Sure, but chances are you'll be here ;)

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:58 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
scum wouldn't kill me because...?

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:58 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
oh ok nvm

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:00 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
Help me convince SD because I'm really sick of him?

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:00 pm
by Malakittens
I can try, but not sure if SD will listen to me :P

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:18 pm
by buldermar
In post 1443, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Oh and I forgot this in the last post--Buldermar is confscum to me right now, so I don't want anyone else to claim. That would just be giving unnecessary information to Buldermar to influence his night action
Even if I were scum I wouldn't have any nightaction if I'm lynched. You're so full of shit.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:19 pm
by buldermar
In post 1443, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I am trying to rush this. Because I know who's scum in this game and my goal right now is to make that lynch happen before you all drink too much of Buldermar's soup.
More bullshit.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:23 pm
by buldermar
In post 1449, Malakittens wrote:I been thinking about how a Miller (town) neighbor, watcher, Role cop could go in a balance structure with ninja which means the other scum member is a normal goon or possibly godfather. We are still unsure if there's another PR in the game.

I have never seen a town-aligned ninja. Please tell me though Buld.. What use would a town aligned ninja be while we have a town watcher?
Wait.. There's none.
Mods make silly roles to throw people off all of the time. Ninjas are according to mafiawiki also town-aligned, which is where orc admitted to have read about them. It doesn't have to have any utility for town - for all I care it could be an inherently anti-town town-role. That's all besides the point I'm making, so I really don't understand why you're asking this question.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:25 pm
by buldermar
In post 1449, Malakittens wrote:Also Pit.. has been around since Day opened. I just checked timestamps and we did get a day on.. so her avoiding posting right now is odd as hell.

VOTE: Buld
She's not posting because she's scum with orc. What the fuck would the point of her not posting if she was scum with me be? You're making so little sense that it hurts.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:27 pm
by buldermar
It's gg if pitoli logs on, good job replacing in and throwing the game for no good reason.

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:14 am
by orcinus_theoriginal
Pitoli has her night action. Ninjas are according to mafiawiki scum aligned by practice.

I'm disappointed to where you're resorting to.

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:18 am
by buldermar
In post 1456, buldermar wrote:
In post 1443, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Oh and I forgot this in the last post--Buldermar is confscum to me right now, so I don't want anyone else to claim.
That would just be giving unnecessary information to
Buldermar
to influence
his
night action
Even if I were scum I wouldn't have any nightaction if I'm lynched. You're so full of shit.

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:21 am
by buldermar
IIRC it says that they can be town aligned but are anti-town by practice. That's not to say they are scum-aligned by practice, which would be a different matter altogether.

So, once again, you're full of shit.

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:38 am
by orcinus_theoriginal
In post 1463, buldermar wrote:IIRC it says that they can be town aligned but
are anti-town by practice
. That's not to say they are
scum-aligned by practice
, which would be a different matter altogether.

So, once again, you're full of shit.
Well now

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:17 am
by Malakittens
There's a difference between tossing in silly roles and tossing in silly roles that are useful. When there's a watcher - there's no need for a town aligned ninja, but there is a need for a scum aligned ninja.

AP ins't the type of mod to say - hey I'm just going to put in a town ninja for laughs. He does balance, he likes to write up flavor.

Plus you literally admitted to being one so please lynch him guys.

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:14 am
by buldermar
In post 1465, Malakittens wrote:When there's a watcher - there's no need for a town aligned ninja, but there is a need for a scum aligned ninja.
Which is obviously why orc is fake-claiming to have a result of me being a ninja.

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:15 am
by buldermar
In post 1465, Malakittens wrote:AP ins't the type of mod to say - hey I'm just going to put in a town ninja for laughs. He does balance, he likes to write up flavor.

Plus you literally admitted to being one so please lynch him guys.
That's all irrelevant to the point I'm making, and I can't admit to being a ninja when I'm not.

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:54 am
by Malakittens
Sorry, I believe Orc.

The only thing you are saying is 'I'm not a ninja or ninjas can be town aligned (when they normally aren't)'. You just brought up Orc fake claiming, but you haven't even tried to attack a role cop possibly being mafia which I would believe someone town would have done in your position.

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:54 am
by buldermar
In post 1468, Malakittens wrote:Sorry, I believe Orc.

The only thing you are saying is 'I'm not a ninja or ninjas can be town aligned (when they normally aren't)'. You just brought up Orc fake claiming, but you haven't even tried to attack a role cop possibly being mafia which I would believe someone town would have done in your position.
Your attitude is quite absurd. You act as if it's somehow my responsibility to guide town and show how orc is scum. You lose the game in just as real of a sense as I do if I get lynched, and you've done nothing to investigate this matter. You may assert that I should be able to find something you can't find by knowing that he's scum, but you can just as well make that hypothesis, in which case we have the exact same information available.

In short, it's no more my responsibility to prove that orc is scum than its yours. So fuck off, and don't you dare blaming this on me.

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:47 pm
by pitoli
Sorry guys for the absence. Reading up now.

And I'm a vanilla townie

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:56 pm
by pitoli
The scum team is Buldermar and pitoli. I am a rolecop, and Buldermar is a 1-shot ninja. Yeah, I didn't know what that was until yesterday either.

I would like to apologize for my anti-town play yesterday. My reasoning was that as long as I played myself to be bad enough to be not night killed, I would be able to enter lylo with two conftowns (myself and my investigative target). I did breadcrumb my role and ill go fish it up right now. This is also why I backed off fery after she claimed--I wanted to use my night action on her.
Orc, why couldn't you wait to hear everybody claim?

I'm not entirely sure how breadcrumbs are supposed to work but yours isn't convincing.

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:57 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
Shhhh

Help me lynch your partner

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:06 pm
by pitoli
In post 1410, buldermar wrote:
In post 1408, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I did read about the role on MW. Where did you get that otherwise?

Oh and watch this.

A Ninja is a role or role modifier such that the Ninja will never be seen as targeting anyone by a Tracker, Watcher, or other investigative role along these lines. It has been likened to the Tracker/Watcher equivalent to Godfather.
Ninja is not necessarily aligned against the Town,
but that's what happens in practice.
Oh now you did read about the role on MW? So why did you not answer that initially but instead insisted that you asked a friend about it?

It doesn't matter that it's an anti-town role if it's still town-aligned. The argument is that you'd have asked me to claim when you know that it is possible for town to be a ninja. You have just admitted to have read about the role on MW where it clearly states that it can be town-aligned, yet you didn't wait for my claim. You're so full of shit.
I agree he should have waited for claims, but is that automatically something only scum would do?
I can't believe that's the extent of your case on Orc...

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:12 pm
by pitoli
In post 1415, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Re SD: It doesn't even matter at this point. I have all the information necessary to make the right lynches. All that remains is convincing you guys to do the same. No I did not have any further crumbs, but the speed at which I came out with you being a neighbor should be definitive. That being said, why exactly are you claiming VT when your role is actually a neighbor?

I don't know. The two are effectively the same, but that sort of makes me feel like you are scum that doesn't want to say their actual role and going with the run-of-the-mill fakeclaim.

Actually guys don't hammer buldermar just yet. I need to figure out who it is between SD and Pitoli.
If your only reason that it can't be a Mala/Buld scumteam is because she was at the bottom of his T/S list yesterday... I don't like it. Skimming back through his posts, I don't even think he was pushing her lynch that hard.

If Buldermar is scum, the only player he can't be teamed with (without reasonable doubt) is you.