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I promise you that Buldermar isn't scum. Now get your head out of your beautiful ass and lynch scum with me.In post 1444, Majiffy wrote:Looks like TownNacho. DumbNacho but TownNacho.
Which means we need moar Buldeyvotes.
Oh well when you put it that way I have no problem getting you lynched, I've been wanting that lynch all fucking day anyway.In post 1448, Nachomamma8 wrote:1v1. There's no fucking way in hell that a moderator puts a PGO in the game in addition to two assassins who have the mutual goal of killing each other. He encouraged them to target as many people as possible, so one of them dying to a PGO and not to EACH OTHER makes no fucking sense. Secondly, we are either looking at 2 scum, an SK, or nothing. If there are 2 scum, we need a lot of power roles to balance. One of those power roles will NOT be a negative utility role. If there is one scum, seems pretty stupid to put in a role that will instantly kill the last scum. If there is no scum then ff and mollie fucked up so this will be a little funny but w/e. Finally, a PGO is an additional killing role which DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IN THIS SETUP. We can assume the setup, not counting assassin shenanigans, will either end up being 6-1 or 5-2. PGO, if targetted, brings us out of the odd numbers into the evens and loses us a mislynch, which would be crippling if there were two scum, and still pretty fucking bad if one scum.
Yeah no.In post 1449, Nachomamma8 wrote:I claimed the town meta bullshit on you to see if I couldn't get you to come clean in a town way. Consider it a final test to see if you were just harmless fakeclaiming town. You failed.In post 1443, Human Destroyer wrote:So run me through this again...I'm playing to my town meta and I'm not acting like gambitting scum but now I'm gambitting scum?
explain how this was meant to work?In post 1449, Nachomamma8 wrote:I claimed the town meta bullshit on you to see if I couldn't get you to come clean in a town way. Consider it a final test to see if you were just harmless fakeclaiming town. You failed.In post 1443, Human Destroyer wrote:So run me through this again...I'm playing to my town meta and I'm not acting like gambitting scum but now I'm gambitting scum?
and nacho's faked bullshit continuesIn post 1450, Nachomamma8 wrote:And I wasn't sure on Mac but he is town now.
That's not how balance works, no. If AP wanted to put a Named Townie in the game, he wouldn't have given it the ability to kill everything that targetted it.In post 1453, Human Destroyer wrote:And I don't know how balance works that well, but PGOs always claim D1 anyway, so I don't really see why an assassin would end up targeting me anyway; same with scum and smart town.
I declared Mac and Minimal scum before I finished reading the thread, yeah. Then I read Mac as scum. Then I was asked about my read on you, remembered the PGO claim and knew it would be impossible in this setup.In post 1453, Human Destroyer wrote:Considering the fact that you basically declared "Mac and Minimal are scum, everyone else is town cause I know I can read them" your supposed "reaction test" is bullshit.
I give HD an easy out to take back his PGO claim. If he doesn't take it, I know he's scum. If he does, I look at how he decides to take it back.In post 1454, fferyllt wrote:explain how this was meant to work?In post 1449, Nachomamma8 wrote:I claimed the town meta bullshit on you to see if I couldn't get you to come clean in a town way. Consider it a final test to see if you were just harmless fakeclaiming town. You failed.In post 1443, Human Destroyer wrote:So run me through this again...I'm playing to my town meta and I'm not acting like gambitting scum but now I'm gambitting scum?
Why did I do this as scum? Did I suddenly realize that you were a gigantic threat that I just couldn't pass up? Why didn't I mislynch Mac and THEN go for you? Is there some reason why I am absolutely forced to kill you tonight?In post 1455, Human Destroyer wrote:and nacho's faked bullshit continuesIn post 1450, Nachomamma8 wrote:And I wasn't sure on Mac but he is town now.
yep I'm going to make an entire fucking scum case on mac and say WELL NOPE HD IS SCUM I WAS REACTION TESTING HIM MAC IS ACTUALLY TOWN!!!
lynch this
i.e. bullshit reaction test designed in a way where he can call me scum no matter what I doIn post 1458, Nachomamma8 wrote:I give HD an easy out to take back his PGO claim. If he doesn't take it, I know he's scum. If he does, I look at how he decides to take it back.In post 1454, fferyllt wrote:explain how this was meant to work?In post 1449, Nachomamma8 wrote:I claimed the town meta bullshit on you to see if I couldn't get you to come clean in a town way. Consider it a final test to see if you were just harmless fakeclaiming town. You failed.In post 1443, Human Destroyer wrote:So run me through this again...I'm playing to my town meta and I'm not acting like gambitting scum but now I'm gambitting scum?
Even if you didn't want to NK me, you now have a basically unkillable player that no one's really willing to lynch or target based on his claim. And you do want to NK me and I can tell you do, because you've seen me play as town and you know I can read you.In post 1459, Nachomamma8 wrote:Why did I do this as scum? Did I suddenly realize that you were a gigantic threat that I just couldn't pass up? Why didn't I mislynch Mac and THEN go for you? Is there some reason why I am absolutely forced to kill you tonight?In post 1455, Human Destroyer wrote:and nacho's faked bullshit continuesIn post 1450, Nachomamma8 wrote:And I wasn't sure on Mac but he is town now.
yep I'm going to make an entire fucking scum case on mac and say WELL NOPE HD IS SCUM I WAS REACTION TESTING HIM MAC IS ACTUALLY TOWN!!!
lynch this
This is really weak.In post 1457, Nachomamma8 wrote:I declared Mac and Minimal scum before I finished reading the thread, yeah. Then I read Mac as scum. Then I was asked about my read on you, remembered the PGO claim and knew it would be impossible in this setup.
Minimal wants to lynch you, everyone else seems pretty ambivalent on you. And if we're talking about people that can read me, you don't even make top 50.In post 1461, Human Destroyer wrote:Even if you didn't want to NK me, you now have a basically unkillable player that no one's really willing to lynch or target based on his claim. And you do want to NK me and I can tell you do, because you've seen me play as town and you know I can read you.
So yeah you kinda need me dead.
Then again, why make the initial push on Mac?In post 1461, Human Destroyer wrote:Also yes let's push a mislynch on Mac and look shitty and THEN Day 2 say "Oh I noticed HD is probably fakeclaiming because setup". Sounds like a great plan, one I'd use every game if I could.
Oh yes one more person than you wants to lynch me and hasn't even attempted a push on me.In post 1463, Nachomamma8 wrote:Minimal wants to lynch you, everyone else seems pretty ambivalent on you. And if we're talking about people that can read me, you don't even make top 50.In post 1461, Human Destroyer wrote:Even if you didn't want to NK me, you now have a basically unkillable player that no one's really willing to lynch or target based on his claim. And you do want to NK me and I can tell you do, because you've seen me play as town and you know I can read you.
So yeah you kinda need me dead.
Then again, why make the initial push on Mac?[/quote]In post 1461, Human Destroyer wrote:Also yes let's push a mislynch on Mac and look shitty and THEN Day 2 say "Oh I noticed HD is probably fakeclaiming because setup". Sounds like a great plan, one I'd use every game if I could.
Funny how little attention you pay to my posts.In post 1464, Human Destroyer wrote:Not only that, it also happens to be your other stated scumread.
And then I remembered it and was like "OH YEAH BETTER KILL HIM NOW"...?In post 1464, Human Destroyer wrote:probably because you actually did forget my claim early on
I've spent all my gusto trying to get people on Buldermar. Now I'm just tired.In post 1445, Human Destroyer wrote:1) It's pretty heavily implied he's talking about my PGO claim.In post 1444, Majiffy wrote:You just confirmed PGO was what you were lying about; Nacho never insinuated anything about what you were lying about, just that you were lying.
2) There isn't really anything else I could've said that I could be lying about?
Try again. This time with more gusto maybe.
Feels. Played enough games with TownNacho to know how he operates.In post 1447, Human Destroyer wrote:You'll have to explain this one; he's blatantly contradicted his proclaimed views once or twice in thread and hasn't done anything I've seen town motivation for.In post 1444, Majiffy wrote:Looks like TownNacho. DumbNacho but TownNacho.
ButIn post 1452, Nachomamma8 wrote:I promise you that Buldermar isn't scum. Now get your head out of your beautiful ass and lynch scum with me.In post 1444, Majiffy wrote:Looks like TownNacho. DumbNacho but TownNacho.
Which means we need moar Buldeyvotes.
Wouldn't he do that later in the game, preferably at LYLO? Makes no sense for ScumNacho in a slot being read as scum by most of the playerlist to suddenly attack one of the slots being read as town by most of the playerlist.In post 1456, Human Destroyer wrote:Hint: Nacho wants me dead because he knows he can't NK me.
He needs to get me lynched because he knows I can read him when I try and he's fucking screwed if I stay alive.
"Mac and Minimal are scum"In post 1465, Nachomamma8 wrote:Funny how little attention you pay to my posts.In post 1464, Human Destroyer wrote:Not only that, it also happens to be your other stated scumread.
Yes.In post 1465, Nachomamma8 wrote:And then I remembered it and was like "OH YEAH BETTER KILL HIM NOW"...?In post 1464, Human Destroyer wrote:probably because you actually did forget my claim early on
Are you kidding? This is beautiful, beautiful payback for the early game spamposting.In post 1465, Nachomamma8 wrote:But whatever, we've muddied up the thread enough.
Nevermind, that's a very good point.In post 1467, Human Destroyer wrote:Are you kidding? This is beautiful, beautiful payback for the early game spamposting.
Well get more of it. >:TIn post 1466, Majiffy wrote:I've spent all my gusto trying to get people on Buldermar. Now I'm just tired.In post 1445, Human Destroyer wrote:1) It's pretty heavily implied he's talking about my PGO claim.In post 1444, Majiffy wrote:You just confirmed PGO was what you were lying about; Nacho never insinuated anything about what you were lying about, just that you were lying.
2) There isn't really anything else I could've said that I could be lying about?
Try again. This time with more gusto maybe.
Right...and do you profess to be able to tell if he was actually scum instead of town?In post 1466, Majiffy wrote:Feels. Played enough games with TownNacho to know how he operates.In post 1447, Human Destroyer wrote:You'll have to explain this one; he's blatantly contradicted his proclaimed views once or twice in thread and hasn't done anything I've seen town motivation for.In post 1444, Majiffy wrote:Looks like TownNacho. DumbNacho but TownNacho.
The more common town reads get lynched, the more confusion there is among the remaining players.In post 1466, Majiffy wrote:Wouldn't he do that later in the game, preferably at LYLO? Makes no sense for ScumNacho in a slot being read as scum by most of the playerlist to suddenly attack one of the slots being read as town by most of the playerlist.In post 1456, Human Destroyer wrote:Hint: Nacho wants me dead because he knows he can't NK me.
He needs to get me lynched because he knows I can read him when I try and he's fucking screwed if I stay alive.
I could kiss you right now, Jiffy. Now please trust me on this HD vote.In post 1466, Majiffy wrote:Feels. Played enough games with TownNacho to know how he operates.
In post 1467, Human Destroyer wrote:Please do explain where the "oh minimal is actually town" is, cause I don't see it.
This was the addendum onto my Mac case, which was not as obvious as I thought it was. Sorry, I get a little excited when I peg the fuck out of scum.In post 1407, Nachomamma8 wrote:Plus I can read everyone in this game and they are all town.
This is a giant pile of bullshit.In post 1470, Human Destroyer wrote:The more common town reads get lynched, the more confusion there is among the remaining players.
Not really.In post 1472, Nachomamma8 wrote:This is a giant pile of bullshit.In post 1470, Human Destroyer wrote:The more common town reads get lynched, the more confusion there is among the remaining players.
Which is obvious, but fuck you guys for early game spamposting.
Oh I see--you were extremely unsure of the only scumread you had and then you simply switched to a different person using a bullshit reaction test and flipping your read on said original scumread entirely.In post 1471, Nachomamma8 wrote:In post 1467, Human Destroyer wrote:Please do explain where the "oh minimal is actually town" is, cause I don't see it.This was the addendum onto my Mac case, which was not as obvious as I thought it was. Sorry, I get a little excited when I peg the fuck out of scum.In post 1407, Nachomamma8 wrote:Plus I can read everyone in this game and they are all town.
