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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:32 am
by Macaronis and Cheese
Aronis is Mac-Aronis. Do people not get our triple entendre? That makes me sad.

Also, what exactly is making our case more scummy than Speaker for the Dead's? I'm not following how we went from lean-town to scum on people's reads lists.

borkjerfkin wrote:
Macaronis and Cheese wrote:Certainly there are no past games to see how the moderator chooses characters for roles, nonetheless I think it's valid as a supplemental argument (not a foundational one - I agree there).


What is your foundational argument then?

I'm not biting on flavor spec in general and in specific I'm not biting on it here: I skimmed the Earth-295 article for Nightcrawler and he's a member of the X-men and a pretty popular character in general. It's reasonable he's in the game, and I don't see how you can, in good conscience, make any argument that his minor influence in this universe is alignment indicative.

Macaronis and Cheese wrote:We have strong suspicions that Speaker for the Dead is the mafia member implanted within our neighborhood. Firstly, they made a post very similiar to bork's in our neighborhood, nearly one day after he did in yours. Thus it brings up the strong possibility that the person in bork's neighborhood saw the post, told the other mafia and suggested that one of them replicate the idea. Of course he didn't quote it, but most likely just mentioned it. Leaving them to create their own and gain more credibility for it. They also choose not to post it at the start of the day.

Before the game had started, I made a post about flavor: Stating that I thought we were Team X-Calibre and mentioned Nightcrawler. When asked to flavor claim, they claimed Nightcrawler. Which goes to suggest the possibility that they used the info in my post to form a fakeclaim.

Now, only after we have shown reasonable suspicions towards them, they are going after us, wanting to policy lynch us. Which I find to be very OMGUS, considering they didn't even notice us in the first 24 hours and only begin suspecting us, after we suspected them.

I recently claimed within the 'hood, but when they claimed, their claim was two words. Which makes it very difficult for us to discern that they want us to claim. Neither me or my partner recognized it as pointing to us to claim, thus the delay.

The 'X-Men' within this Marvel universe, contain Quicksilver, Storm, Dazzler, Iceman, Banshee, and Exodus.

We're Weapon X. It causes suspicions that they are one of three players outside our 'group' as well.

We're also not very impressed by their posts, despite the wall, which brought this all up in the first place.

~Macaronis

After considering it more, I will admit that given this is likely to be a VT-heavy and Mafia power-heavy game, the likelihood that mafia have been given powerful fake claims seems fairly high.

-Cheese

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:33 am
by Titus
The only person ypu changed on Mac was Jiffy's.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:35 am
by Majiffy
Titus wrote:Majiffy you are going to mislynch if you vote in that pool with the outside chance of PV.

Unless youre going to back this up with heavy reasoning im going to assume youre talkin out your ass

Titus wrote:
Of course town can be useless. That's the point of a pressure vote and asking questions. Town then shape up.

Scum can appear useful but talking scum get caught eventually as they run out of options. (Example: Fake claim on you in teen wolf). Talking scum are vulnerable to vca (Casso in NY 169).

You are inexperienced and still view scumhunting idealistically in terms of black and white. You rule out many possibilities that are not only possible but happen with some frequency

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:37 am
by Majiffy
Noodles youre scum cuz of your aronis interactions with titus some pages back. Cba to hunt for quotes on a phone.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:37 am
by Rogue
:roll:

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:39 am
by Majiffy
Who is that to mala

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:42 am
by Rogue
Wrong.

Its to all the dickwaggling and bullshit going on in this thread :L

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:42 am
by Majiffy
Smd sponges

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:43 am
by Majiffy
Go through my reads and tell me what you agree and disagree with

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:44 am
by Majiffy
Btw sponges is your new name in all games

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:51 am
by Titus
I am not that inexperienced. A lot of the time it is that black and white. I post a lot to appear useful as scum but I agree with/push the mislynch of the day. As town, I actually produce and persuade. This dynamic exists a lot. The game has shades of gray but those are execptions. Those who fail to produce unless on vla should be policied.

Mac - While he's wrong on the flavor claim, he is not taking the path of least resistance. He encourages content. Pursues scumreads and defends duspassionately when people are being reasonable. The exchange with Speaker was obvtown v obvtown.

Cloud Nine - Her wagon formed too fast after toog. It was a witchhunt. They're aggressive and communicative. Their objectives are transparent which provides a failsafe if I am wrong.

SKOT - Transparent here as well. His vote although dumb wasn't useful for scum. Two neighborhoods policy lynching him in agreement based in policy doesn't pass the smell test.

PV- Is on vla, therefore could be scum.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:53 am
by Titus
Go ahead and explain why Aronis is scum for the interactions with me. I believe there will be a rational explanation though. I won't Garcia what you put up Majiffy.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:54 am
by Titus
I gtg. Be back in a few hours.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:54 am
by Rogue
Titus wrote:Majiffy...cheese or macaroni is aronis...

Watching the movies doesn't make someone familiar with xmen. There are comics, tv shows, etc. I have seen the movies and they make me desperately want to lynch Venmar more as the brotherhood is evil.

Majiffy wrote:Yeah the movies dont deal with this universe


Wooooosh~

Two people just missed my point fucking completely.

The point is not to do with the movies. The point IS SHE HAS A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE WITH THE FLAVOR.
The game we played in Jason game didn't have anything to do with the movies. The picks were part of comics because she gave names I had no clue about (other than jean grey, Kay)

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:55 am
by Rogue
Holy living fuck Skot is not fucking town.

Time for work

Baaaaiiii

~Rogue

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:56 am
by Rogue
Majiffy wrote:1. Speaker for the Dead-dont want dead
2. Clusk92-don't want dead yet
3. Macaronis and Cheese-don't want dead yet
4. Cloud Nine-want dead
5. Majiffy-don't want dead
6. Rogue-dont want dead
7. My Milked Eek-don't want dead yet
8. Ultimate Life Form-no read
9. Feu et Vol-don't want dead
10. borkjerfkin-don't want dead
11. Toogeloo-want dead
12. SnowStorm-don't want dead yet
13. Sharpest-knife-on-tree-no read
14. RubikAshtray-don't want dead yet
15. Venmar-don't want dead
16. Nero Cain-don't want dead
17. PeregrineV-don't want dead yet
18. Brian Skies-dont want dead yet
19. Titus-dont want dead
20. ika-don't want dead

Mine

1 agree
2 kinda (wouldn't mind his death but not going out of my way)
3 not sure
4 idk anymore
5 agree
6 agree
7 agree
8 agree
9 not sure
10 agree
11 strongly disagree
12 disagree because I don't see anything remotely town
13 agree
14 undecided
15 sleeping malas read
16 don't know
17 agree
18 agree
19 idk
20 agree

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:56 am
by Majiffy
Youre inexperienced enough to use single games as an example for site meta arguments.

Regarding the specific reads... a lot of that refers to aforementioned use of site meta w respect to experience.

Also I dont have skot on the table for today so a big ? To that one.

The majority of what you put forth is playstyle tells and not necessarily alignment ind. E. G. I am always aggressive and obstinate as either alignment and should not be used to determine alignment. Step back from the playstyles amd look at motivation to find scum.



Pedits im nof reading thats all to titus
If it helps, youve become a strong tr from your last post

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:57 am
by Majiffy
Titus wrote:Go ahead and explain why Aronis is scum for the interactions with me. I believe there will be a rational explanation though. I won't Garcia what you put up Majiffy.

Remind me wed when im on a comp not phone

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:59 am
by Majiffy
Mehr doesnt seem to be a lynch we can agree on but at least our trs slign sponges. Mebbe poe?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:01 am
by Rogue
That's always my goto

How opposed to a Snow wagon are you

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:01 am
by Majiffy
Rogue wrote:
Titus wrote:Majiffy...cheese or macaroni is aronis...

Watching the movies doesn't make someone familiar with xmen. There are comics, tv shows, etc. I have seen the movies and they make me desperately want to lynch Venmar more as the brotherhood is evil.

Majiffy wrote:Yeah the movies dont deal with this universe


Wooooosh~

Two people just missed my point fucking completely.

The point is not to do with the movies. The point IS SHE HAS A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE WITH THE FLAVOR.
The game we played in Jason game didn't have anything to do with the movies. The picks were part of comics because she gave names I had no clue about (other than jean grey, Kay)

She has knowledge of xmen flavor not alt uni flavor thats like saying mighty morphin power rangers knowledge makes you knowledgable about rescue whatever or dinofuck rangers

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:01 am
by Majiffy
Rogue wrote:That's always my goto

How opposed to a Snow wagon are you

Not really at all.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:03 am
by Rogue
VOTE: snowstorm

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:03 am
by Majiffy
VOTE: snowstorm

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:06 am
by Rogue
I'm really confused why mollies townreading c9 but I don't want to push c9 atm