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Well I can say this much, Ceph is not the mafia's killer, and neither is Eddie. So, despite my scumread on both slots, it changes things for me a little and for the sake of narrowing the scumpool down I'd take them out of it. Since I thought I was the de facto lynch coming into the day I wanted to out what I had. One of those results might be a result of my action, and one of those results is the result of the Mod PMing me (presumably) someone else's random ability.

so, why the fuck would you claim these now?

A) Why the fuck would you claim this now

B) Why couldn't this role have been given to someone who would use it to investigate better targets, you've told me nothing I didn't know already :/

Oh someone else screwed up too then

GJ whoever investigated the obvious town slot? But why would that info go to T-bone of all people???

Why did you fish me given the result I know you got?

Uhhh well you guys have a hard-on for lynching me, so getting the info out now was best.

It was probably randomized, no reason someone would just give it to me.

Because I wanted to see what you'd do.

UGH CAN YOU PLEASE STOP TALKINGABOUT ROLES YOU ARE

UGGHGHHH

SHOS....SHOS.... I'M A INNOCENT CHILD....

↑ T-Bone wrote:SHOS....SHOS.... I'M A INNOCENT CHILD....

wat

what?

TOWN MOD MASON INNOCENT CHILD WITH KATSUKI

Okay but what if my response was to out what I did last night? Wouldn't that be counterproductive?

Thankfully I have a brain, but I don't get the impression you think terribly highly of me, so as far as you're concerned such a response could easily have been in the realm of things I might do.

And it's not like there was a sweet reaction test to be had (since, obviously, I didn't target Bins last night).

↑ Cephrir wrote:I am a miller.

↑ Magua wrote:Katsuki, When the Mod Forgets to Lock the Thread, a 1-shot Miller Thread Unlocker aligned with the Town, was lynched Day 1.

I asked my team for thoughts on this during the night.

One said Autolynch.
One forgot ceph claimed miller but basically shrugged and said ceph felt scummy to them all game.
One said yeah, probably scum.

So ceph has jumped up pretty high onto my list of desireable lynches for today.

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↑ shos wrote:the flip is 1-shot miller though; that suggests we have loads of cops, not only one.

Given kats comments I think the 1-shot refers to his thread unlocking ability. Not 1-shot miller, whatever that would be.

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↑ xRECKONERx wrote:oh heyyyy

VOTE: Cabd

So you just going to keep voting Cabd until he's dead and not do anything else then?

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↑ shos wrote:nop
I'm just a little dazzled at how the hell the katsuki wagon went through
I went to sleep thinking that 99.9999% cabd dies. This suggests, imo, that cabd IS actually scum; but it could really just be coincidence - both wagons were high.
if cabd flips scum, I'm gonna swarm through the katsuki wagon for scum.

This is so cheeky-scum posting. YOU voted kats. You pushed for kats lynch. "oh tee hee kats got lynched? wow thats surprising totally didn't expect that" please... so fucking cheeky.

We need to have a talk about a few things shos.

1) Explain this post:

↑ shos wrote:@mollie - you're going to have to look for yourself, if you know what I mean

2) Why were you so averse to voting Cabd? Over the last 48hrs of D1 you called Cabd scum, you said you would hammer either cabd or kats and reiterated that throughout the day. You called for town to focus in on Cabd or Kats because "ZOMG NO LYNCH" but then you tried to speed wagon tbone and humored the thought of a speedwagon on ceph even closer to deadline. By the end of the day you were all "rah rah everyone vote kats nao" and when you went to bed you seemed dejected cabd might get lynched with your whole "fuck it don't care just lynch cabd". And now today after you waffle on Cabd in 1401 you call him useless lynchbait who is only maybe scum but only because of the kats lynch. But back in 1071 you said Cabd was scum. So what happened between 1071 and 1401 that made you think Cabd is town, expect maybe only scum based on not his play but kats flipping town?


to be continued...

↑ Rhinox wrote:So ceph has jumped up pretty high onto my list of desireable lynches for today.

You seemed to think I was town yesterday. It's a bit worrisome you wouldn't consider the mod could be screwing with us.

Fortunately we have the other setup to reflect on. It had a million investigative roles presumably intended to eventually cause the town to realize we should stop thinking about counterclaims. That much, perhaps, we can take as a lesson here.

Wait...ceph claimed miller.

Uh uh what to do

LLD, are you gonna be useful today?

Rhino, please take a look at my catchup and the questions directed at you.

I'm just gonna ignore what T-bone said btw
I suggest others do the same

↑ Rhinox wrote:

↑ Cephrir wrote:I am a miller.

↑ Magua wrote:Katsuki, When the Mod Forgets to Lock the Thread, a 1-shot Miller Thread Unlocker aligned with the Town, was lynched Day 1.

I asked my team for thoughts on this during the night.

One said Autolynch.
One forgot ceph claimed miller but basically shrugged and said ceph felt scummy to them all game.
One said yeah, probably scum.

So ceph has jumped up pretty high onto my list of desireable lynches for today.

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↑ shos wrote:the flip is 1-shot miller though; that suggests we have loads of cops, not only one.

Given kats comments I think the 1-shot refers to his thread unlocking ability. Not 1-shot miller, whatever that would be.

↑ shos wrote:nop
I'm just a little dazzled at how the hell the katsuki wagon went through
I went to sleep thinking that 99.9999% cabd dies. This suggests, imo, that cabd IS actually scum; but it could really just be coincidence - both wagons were high.
if cabd flips scum, I'm gonna swarm through the katsuki wagon for scum.

This is so cheeky-scum posting. YOU voted kats. You pushed for kats lynch. "oh tee hee kats got lynched? wow thats surprising totally didn't expect that" please... so fucking cheeky.

We need to have a talk about a few things shos.

1) Explain this post:

↑ shos wrote:@mollie - you're going to have to look for yourself, if you know what I mean

2) Why were you so averse to voting Cabd? Over the last 48hrs of D1 you called Cabd scum, you said you would hammer either cabd or kats and reiterated that throughout the day. You called for town to focus in on Cabd or Kats because "ZOMG NO LYNCH" but then you tried to speed wagon tbone and humored the thought of a speedwagon on ceph even closer to deadline. By the end of the day you were all "rah rah everyone vote kats nao" and when you went to bed you seemed dejected cabd might get lynched with your whole "fuck it don't care just lynch cabd". And now today after you waffle on Cabd in 1401 you call him useless lynchbait who is only maybe scum but only because of the kats lynch. But back in 1071 you said Cabd was scum. So what happened between 1071 and 1401 that made you think Cabd is town, expect maybe only scum based on not his play but kats flipping town?


to be continued...

1. didn't even think about it re:millers. interesting
2. didn't think about that, either, I guess you're right
3. I did vote kats but when I went to sleep I was SURE the lynch wasn't going to happen. you can't deny thsi was what it looked like.
4. that was an ongoing game, and it has now ended. check it out.
5. I was averse because I wanted kats dead.

↑ TierShift wrote:How do you feel about rhinox not evaluating either?

Having read ahead, I'm not sure I like where you're going with this. Because I already commented about ceph cheerleading me on while question kats about not reconsidering, when I was also not reconsidering. And if there was anything scummy about me not reconsidering, then bringing attention to it would be the last thing I'd want to do as scum wouldn't it? See here:

↑ Rhinox wrote:Ceph this post didn't sit right with me. Your recent posting about shos is weird and not a good weird. You're not voting shos anymore and you think he's posting better. You're not telling me I'm wrong in anything I've posted about shos - in fact you're basically telling me good job. But you're also questioning kats for not reconsidering on shos based on his better posting.Clear things up for me here, what are your current reads on shos, kats, me, and thoughts on my case on shos?

↑ TierShift wrote:Rhinox looks like he's exploring all avenues explorable.

Elaborate, please?

↑ TierShift wrote:Umm I need to see where this goes. I think the switch on shos is kind of late and might be motivated by people stopping scumreading shos.

Oh it absolutely had to do with the fact that I was one of the last people (if not the last, I don't remember) voting shos while it became the cabd vs. kats show. Unlike some ppl in this game I'm not just going to park my vote on my top scum read and ignore everything else going on. Especially when there are 3 scum to lynch. And as I pointed out up above in my post 610, I didn't just sit there while people were no longer suspecting shos and then try to slink away when no one was looking. I was challenging ceph why he changed his mind. I kept asking mollie to explain her townread on shos which she never really did. As of the post you reference my vote on shos was no longer productive on D1. It was time to look elsewhere. And also...

↑ TierShift wrote:Rhinox, why did you start to understand shos from this point?

There was something in the interaction between mollie and shos that I didn't want to talk about too openly on D1 and felt maybe holding off on shos for D1 would be alright.

↑ TierShift wrote:Gotta keep this in mind. Cabd and rhinox probably do not share alignment. If cabd is scum, rhinox is trying too hard to get a buddy lynched to be scum. If cabd is town, rhinox fits the profile of the scumplayer defending one mislynch strongly and pushing for the other.I realise Iec has been doing the same but I think he is town so..

I think this is pretty much BS and I think even you realize that given your last sentence. And I mean I don't think I was even defending kats that strongly. Today I wish I had defended stronger.

↑ TierShift wrote:I just realised there is a player called lady lambdadelta that has done absolutely nothing this game.

She's done enough to get a read on. I don't like all the "oh shos is totes scum but hey lets lynch kats instead because reasons" and especially now that kats has flipped town LLD has gone from "meh whatever" to a suspect.

↑ Cephrir wrote:You seemed to think I was town yesterday. It's a bit worrisome you wouldn't consider the mod could be screwing with us.Fortunately we have the other setup to reflect on. It had a million investigative roles presumably intended to eventually cause the town to realize we should stop thinking about counterclaims. That much, perhaps, we can take as a lesson here.

I did consider multiple millers. That is why I immediately asked my team for their thoughts. Its also why I didn't immediately vote you today. One of my teamates was confused why no one else had brought it up as soon as the day started and given the reactions of TS and shos seems like mostly ppl likely just forgot you claimed miller, so its a worthwhile discussion to have IMO.

PS yes I did for the most part think you were town yesterday but I started having doubts around 610 and hey, situations change.

↑ shos wrote:3. I did vote kats but when I went to sleep I was SURE the lynch wasn't going to happen. you can't deny thsi was what it looked like.

to me it felt like kats was probably going to get lynched when I fell asleep that night.

↑ shos wrote:4. that was an ongoing game, and it has now ended. check it out.

heh. of course. and to think for a minute I was humoring the idea that you and mollie might be neighbors or masons or some other game related inside information passing between you.

↑ shos wrote:5. I was averse because I wanted kats dead.

As far as I can tell you wanted kats dead because you didn't like his softclaiming and he refused your demands to fullclaim. But you actually called Cabd scum yesterday and today you're not. I still want to know where and why your opinion on Cabd changed. You never really called kats scum. You went from "Cadb is scum but I'd lynch either" to "I only wanna lynch kats boo hoo cadb is going to get lynched". It doesn't make sense to cry about someone you think is scum getting lynched. So where did you change your mind about cadb being scum?

↑ TierShift wrote:Rhino, please take a look at my catchup and the questions directed at you.

You saw my "to be continued", right?

Dodge, VLA for a few days.

VOTE: ceph

in the meantime

Dear notscience,

It would be nice if you could provide some reasoning alongside your votes. I think I've been pretty town this game, so I would love to know what makes you think otherwise. Please feel free to contact me at cephrir@town.net if you would like any further information about my qualifications. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Love,
Cephrir

↑ Rhinox wrote:There was something in the interaction between mollie and shos that I didn't want to talk about too openly on D1

it's day 2 now

↑ Rhinox wrote:

↑ TierShift wrote:How do you feel about rhinox not evaluating either?

Having read ahead, I'm not sure I like where you're going with this. Because I already commented about ceph cheerleading me on while question kats about not reconsidering, when I was also not reconsidering. And if there was anything scummy about me not reconsidering, then bringing attention to it would be the last thing I'd want to do as scum wouldn't it? See here:

↑ Rhinox wrote:Ceph this post didn't sit right with me. Your recent posting about shos is weird and not a good weird. You're not voting shos anymore and you think he's posting better. You're not telling me I'm wrong in anything I've posted about shos - in fact you're basically telling me good job. But you're also questioning kats for not reconsidering on shos based on his better posting.Clear things up for me here, what are your current reads on shos, kats, me, and thoughts on my case on shos?

Oh that is interesting, I missed that. I like it. But I still want to know where others are regarding you.

↑ TierShift wrote:Rhinox looks like he's exploring all avenues explorable.

Elaborate, please?

sure. While you are definitely strongly townreading a few players, you have no problem with exploring any other lynches. It feels a tad like you're buddying up to the few players and keeping all other options open.

It's not much of a case, it's more of a reminder to myself that you're showing somewhat opportunistic stances, just as you're doing with shos.

↑ TierShift wrote:Umm I need to see where this goes. I think the switch on shos is kind of late and might be motivated by people stopping scumreading shos.

Oh it absolutely had to do with the fact that I was one of the last people (if not the last, I don't remember) voting shos while it became the cabd vs. kats show. Unlike some ppl in this game I'm not just going to park my vote on my top scum read and ignore everything else going on. Especially when there are 3 scum to lynch. And as I pointed out up above in my post 610, I didn't just sit there while people were no longer suspecting shos and then try to slink away when no one was looking. I was challenging ceph why he changed his mind. I kept asking mollie to explain her townread on shos which she never really did. As of the post you reference my vote on shos was no longer productive on D1. It was time to look elsewhere. And also...

Townreading him should have nothing to do with the main focus of the thread being elsewhere. Are you using the focus being elsewhere as an explanation of why you unvoted or of why you stopped scumreading him?

↑ TierShift wrote:Rhinox, why did you start to understand shos from this point?

There was something in the interaction between mollie and shos that I didn't want to talk about too openly on D1 and felt maybe holding off on shos for D1 would be alright.

sure, do tell now.

↑ TierShift wrote:Gotta keep this in mind. Cabd and rhinox probably do not share alignment. If cabd is scum, rhinox is trying too hard to get a buddy lynched to be scum. If cabd is town, rhinox fits the profile of the scumplayer defending one mislynch strongly and pushing for the other.I realise Iec has been doing the same but I think he is town so..

I think this is pretty much BS and I think even you realize that given your last sentence. And I mean I don't think I was even defending kats that strongly. Today I wish I had defended stronger.

Well, I certainly think you aren't scum together.
If he flips town, this IS a consideration I'll be having, but far from a certainty.

↑ TierShift wrote:I just realised there is a player called lady lambdadelta that has done absolutely nothing this game.

She's done enough to get a read on. I don't like all the "oh shos is totes scum but hey lets lynch kats instead because reasons" and especially now that kats has flipped town LLD has gone from "meh whatever" to a suspect.

Uh okay I'm going to ISO her soon

↑ TierShift wrote:Rhino, please take a look at my catchup and the questions directed at you.

You saw my "to be continued", right?

I did, I just thought you might forget!

↑ Rhinox wrote:So you just going to keep voting Cabd until he's dead and not do anything else then?

yep*

*will also vote Ceph who is emptyvoting me

it might get less empty when i feel like it

right now it's mostly "i've had this gut scumread the entire game"

but i could probably figure out why that is if i really felt the urge