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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:34 pm

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In post 1448, wavemode wrote:You do know killing chip doesn't prevent him from killing that night, right? How does theory make sense
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:39 pm

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You thought that between you and Chip, it would be you if you claimed yesterday.

I thought that between Serg and Chip, Serg would be dead.

Chip wasn't supposed to shoot anyone last night anyways.

But Chip is dead and Serg isn't.

It's not like I can tell you what they were thinking. But there's a dead vig and the outed gunsmith got another check last night. This seems like a fairly decent explanation from my POV.
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:53 pm

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VOTE: wavemode
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:53 pm

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K I guess I'm just ending it.

Wave, I can see you're online. Do you want to say anything else?

p-edit: or, you know, that.
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:54 pm

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Really can't say I was expecting that?
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:55 pm

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GG ladies and gentlemen
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:56 pm

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Yeah town lost, congrats
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:56 pm

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<3 wave. I felt bad spouting bullshit at you but what else to do in my shoes? Surprisingly it wasn't that relevant to Skitters decision.
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:57 pm

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@seph: Yeah the fact that you hadn't said anything in like two days was kinda bothering me here.
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:57 pm

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But gg seph/implosion/two.
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:58 pm

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I debated posting this afternoon but I swear anything i said would've been bad for me.
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:01 pm

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Looking back I'm astounded town flubber could actually justify taking that position

Like, wow
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:02 pm

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Ye. About ten minutes ago it hit me that you hadn't posted in like two days, and that it was kinda odd given how invested you were in this, but then I got distracted by the vig thing.

And you were kinda pocket-y.

And I didn't think I was wrong on literally everyone.

But gg!

Wave, I'm sorry :(

p-edit: yeah that was my strongest read during this whole thing. I really, really didn't think I was wrong there.
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:03 pm

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I almost feel bad, you caught me so good. I was sitting there kicking myself for not sensing something was up and faking not vanilla.
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:03 pm

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skitter, your reads and your reasons for them after you re-evaluated were really, really solid. You just needed to trust yourself more; distancing was the only move I had left, essentially.

That said hats off to Seph for basically carrying it in the last stretch by just having had a good game.

I did have RL reasons for not posting (read: sickness/tiredness/what have you) but I also felt like I couldn't post almost anything that would help me to win the game in the last ~3-4 RL days. I felt like all I could possibly do was convince skitter to lynch seph over wave >_>

I did plan to (at least try to) step up strongly if seph was lynched to try to swing Flub.
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:03 pm

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Also let me just say the quick hammer caught me my surprise too
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:05 pm

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fuck i wanted to unvote and i got distracted
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:05 pm

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I didn't realize how pockety I was until you pointed it out skit. That was like, really really bad. Gotta watch that in the future.
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:05 pm

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As for shooting chip: that was actually exploiting a town tactical mistake. If town had been willing to trust Chip (granted, they didn't necessarily, but I think it was a pretty solid move to trust him) they could have ordered him to shoot last night, and town would have been in a better position and we would have been forced to shoot Serg.

The math is a little weird but it plays out to a 33% EV for town this way vs a 50% EV the other way i think. But that was all thrown for a loop with the wave claim anyway.
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:06 pm

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congrats woo
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:07 pm

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So it was Goon/Goon/Seph was what?
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:07 pm

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but honest to god wave, that VT claim with "check me" then " im a odd night cop, meaning imma have a gun" is what dwelled in my mind because that sounds shady as fuck man
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:08 pm

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seph was a ninja, actually.
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:09 pm

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@implosion: I know lol. You were always scum here. Flubber was town, and you were scum, and I honestly would have lynched you tonight if I thought the votes were here, but they weren't. I'd been thinking about suggesting that for several IRL days actually. I couldn't figure out which of wave/seph it was, but I was pretty damn sure that I was right on you and flubber. And every time I wanted to lynch wave it just felt wrong. But I also couldn't completely justify Seph scum.

@seph: Yeah you pocketed me and I pointed that out lol. That's like the worst thing that I could find though, and I couldn't figure out why I thought that several days after the fact.
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:09 pm

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(Part of my plan for post seph-lynch was to argue that scum MUST have some kind of actual power, that a doctor made the most sense, and that i should therefore be seen as town for having the vanilla check on me)
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