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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:04 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1226, popsofctown wrote:
In post 1221, Perry Pelican wrote:Meaning you have a modifier that says informed?
Essentially my role PM says I investigate as mafia twice, the first time it says the neighborhood investigates as mafia, then it says "furry character flavorname man" investigates as mafia
Pops said it way back here too when RCE slipped up.

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:06 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1229, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yeah, we get the neighborhood section, and the other section. The neighborhood section is where our Informed is.

I think we got RCE on a technicality. Rough.

I even said this way back then.

I’ve literally been on this for so long. The waters got muddied by Pelican afterwards, and since both Pops and I know Pelican is scum, we literally can see everything else he’s doing completely clear.

This isn’t even a “just from our perspective thing”, we’ve explained it, I just hope people see it.

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:06 pm
by Marquis
VOTE: perry
yeah this feels like scum given up.

REAL:LY going to sleep now
ready for day to end sorta at least i dont feel bad about my vote




edit: @kuribo

pops, flavor, and perry are in a hood. the hood says everyone in it investigates as mafia.

perry emphatically stated there was no "you investigate as mafia" esque text in his role pm.

pops and flavor stopped on that comment to say they both do have that text in their role pm. (i can confirm this is the case for me too.)

so what perry's PoV was, he thought pops and flavor only knew they investigated as mafia because the hood first post said so. he didn't realize the millers would get that info as a personal role modifier in their role pm. it follows perry didn't receive that miller-specific role pm text because he's scum - of course mafia inherently investigate as mafia, so FG doesn't write that line in the scum role pm

this is one of those instances where it really does seem like a role pm related slip that can't just be caused by town not remembering everything.

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:07 pm
by Perry Pelican
In post 1447, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1443, Perry Pelican wrote:
In post 1436, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1217, Perry Pelican wrote:That I investigate as mafia but it's not clear cut if it's because of the neighborhood or the neighborhood all investigates as mafia because of their roles.
Our clear cut is that we definitely do investigate as mafia because of our roles. It is our role. I understand exactly how it happened, and Pelican’s probably over it by this point, because it really is caught out on a technicality.
Still doesn't answer if this is because of the neighborhood. I don't know if I'm just not getting my point across or I'm just lost since no one else is curious about this.

That’s why it’s a slip.

We both know it’s our role that causes it, not the neighborhood granting a shroud of power turning us into that. It’s in our ability.

If i didn’t get vanilla’d and i was force switched into another neighborhood, I’d still be a vig who investigates as mafia.
It's not a slip. Someone could have just said no the hoods don't work that way. I'm trying not to be a drain and just give up but I'm kind of over defending why it's not. If I'm not lynched today I'm vigging you regardless.

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:08 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1452, Marquis wrote:VOTE: perry
yeah this feels like scum given up.

REAL:LY going to sleep now
ready for day to end sorta at least i dont feel bad about my vote




edit: @kuribo

pops, flavor, and perry are in a hood. the hood says everyone in it investigates as mafia.

perry emphatically stated there was no "you investigate as mafia" esque text in his role pm.

pops and flavor stopped on that comment to say they both do have that text in their role pm. (i can confirm this is the case for me too.)

so what perry's PoV was, he thought pops and flavor only knew they investigated as mafia because the hood first post said so. he didn't realize the millers would get that info as a personal role modifier in their role pm. it follows perry didn't receive that miller-specific role pm text because he's scum - of course mafia inherently investigate as mafia, so FG doesn't write that line in the scum role pm

this is one of those instances where it really does seem like a role pm related slip that can't just be caused by town not remembering everything.
You got it!!!!

And you explained it perfectly!

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:08 pm
by Marquis
or oof maybe i have it wrong i liked that post
whats wrong w me am i soft now

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:09 pm
by Marquis
merp UNVOTE:
gnight

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:09 pm
by Flavor Leaf
This is also pretty similar to Boonin’ It In The Slums. RCE was outed scum essentially and had defeatist attitude. (That was one of the Ras’d up games, though, so he had every right to feel defeated)

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:10 pm
by popsofctown
I'm lying, but only to myself

I'm procrastinating the vote because it's a gross way to win, as a social deduction game Pelipper has played well, as someone having to compensate for closed setup irregularities, yuck

The reason as of now is I don't want to end the day, croag needs to be replaced, Gorkington needs to post at least a little, etc.

I don't know if my vote is on Marquis right now or not but UNVOTE:

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:11 pm
by kuribo
In post 1453, Perry Pelican wrote:
In post 1447, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1443, Perry Pelican wrote:
In post 1436, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1217, Perry Pelican wrote:That I investigate as mafia but it's not clear cut if it's because of the neighborhood or the neighborhood all investigates as mafia because of their roles.
Our clear cut is that we definitely do investigate as mafia because of our roles. It is our role. I understand exactly how it happened, and Pelican’s probably over it by this point, because it really is caught out on a technicality.
Still doesn't answer if this is because of the neighborhood. I don't know if I'm just not getting my point across or I'm just lost since no one else is curious about this.

That’s why it’s a slip.

We both know it’s our role that causes it, not the neighborhood granting a shroud of power turning us into that. It’s in our ability.

If i didn’t get vanilla’d and i was force switched into another neighborhood, I’d still be a vig who investigates as mafia.
It's not a slip. Someone could have just said no the hoods don't work that way. I'm trying not to be a drain and just give up but I'm kind of over defending why it's not. If I'm not lynched today I'm vigging you regardless.

Okay, so if you didn't slip, lemme ask you this:

If you think FL is lying, and FL is your direct counter-claim, and you plan on shooting Flavor Leaf or Pops...

why are you voting Kagami?

You haven't even bothered moving your vote to reflect what you seem to feel is possibly scum attacking you.

Or you think FL is town? And you're gonna shoot there N1 regardless?

Sooooo not buying it.

Vote: PerryPelican

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:15 pm
by kuribo
See, of all the things I don't understand, I understand murder.

And I understand you sure as shit don't keep waving your gun around about how you're vigging someone without even bothering to vote them.

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:17 pm
by Fish Monger
Assuming RCE is lying about the vig he does. But I mean who also bulletins their vig target anyway?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:18 pm
by popsofctown
In post 1460, kuribo wrote:See, of all the things I don't understand, I understand murder.

And I understand you sure as shit don't keep waving your gun around about how you're vigging someone without even bothering to vote them.
I have claimed not vig. FL has claimed vig.

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:18 pm
by popsofctown
Oh that was directed to Pelipper

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:21 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1461, Fish Monger wrote:Assuming RCE is lying about the vig he does. But I mean who also bulletins their vig target anyway?
I still die if he’s scum, though. That’s the thing.

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:22 pm
by kuribo
In post 1461, Fish Monger wrote:Assuming RCE is lying about the vig he does. But I mean who also bulletins their vig target anyway?

I do. It's more fun that way.

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:22 pm
by kuribo
In post 1464, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1461, Fish Monger wrote:Assuming RCE is lying about the vig he does. But I mean who also bulletins their vig target anyway?
I still die if he’s scum, though. That’s the thing.
I'll never forgive you if scum kill you instead of me.

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:22 pm
by Fish Monger
fair enough, to both

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:23 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1461, Fish Monger wrote:Assuming RCE is lying about the vig he does. But I mean who also bulletins their vig target anyway?
Scum bulletin their targets so they can take credit when they die, was my point.

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:33 pm
by Perry Pelican
In post 1459, kuribo wrote:
In post 1453, Perry Pelican wrote:
In post 1447, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1443, Perry Pelican wrote:
In post 1436, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1217, Perry Pelican wrote:That I investigate as mafia but it's not clear cut if it's because of the neighborhood or the neighborhood all investigates as mafia because of their roles.
Our clear cut is that we definitely do investigate as mafia because of our roles. It is our role. I understand exactly how it happened, and Pelican’s probably over it by this point, because it really is caught out on a technicality.
Still doesn't answer if this is because of the neighborhood. I don't know if I'm just not getting my point across or I'm just lost since no one else is curious about this.

That’s why it’s a slip.

We both know it’s our role that causes it, not the neighborhood granting a shroud of power turning us into that. It’s in our ability.

If i didn’t get vanilla’d and i was force switched into another neighborhood, I’d still be a vig who investigates as mafia.
It's not a slip. Someone could have just said no the hoods don't work that way. I'm trying not to be a drain and just give up but I'm kind of over defending why it's not. If I'm not lynched today I'm vigging you regardless.

Okay, so if you didn't slip, lemme ask you this:

If you think FL is lying, and FL is your direct counter-claim, and you plan on shooting Flavor Leaf or Pops...

why are you voting Kagami?

You haven't even bothered moving your vote to reflect what you seem to feel is possibly scum attacking you.

Or you think FL is town? And you're gonna shoot there N1 regardless?

Sooooo not buying it.

Vote: PerryPelican
I can kill him? I don't have to get him lynched.

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:34 pm
by Perry Pelican
If I get blocked or something then oh well, scum had to work for it at least instead of this bs.

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:36 pm
by kuribo
yeah, now that I'm not buying at all

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:40 pm
by Perry Pelican
I think 1+1=2 but, whatever you're into.

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:41 pm
by Fish Monger
In post 1472, Perry Pelican wrote:I think 1+1=2 but, whatever you're into.
I feel like more people, like any of the 6 miller claims, would have come forward with reasonable doubts if your miller claim had validity.

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:41 pm
by Fish Monger
But maybe i missed that perfectly reasonable explanation.