Open 767: Nomination Mafia [Day 7]


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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:03 pm

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I like your plan and I am making a reads list
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:06 pm

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In post, [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=11334751#p11334751]1420[/url] Joey_ wrote: wrote:
Does it not bother anyone else that Awoo feels like he has no inherent read list in mind ?
You think it bothers you? How do you think I feel?
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Suji -- Bad tone. Good at avoiding conflict. Something something political readslist.
GuiltyLion -- He's just a guy in the game, man. Why can't I think of what his opinions are? Does that make him more likely to be mafia? POE puts him down here. Also high risk titus might have wanted to bus him initially, because that would explain the cringe awkward push she kept forcing.
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Actually can I get a response for the pisskop one? I think they're anti-team and there's one between GL / pisskop
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:15 pm

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What, anti-team between pk and suji? Again, could be but I’ll wait until we flip pisskop to really think about it

But again, I think game is basically done if pk flips red
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:17 pm

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In post 1226, GuiltyLion wrote:if this is all town, who's scum? I still think Joey/nEE are town but that leaves Suji/pisskop and I don't know if pisskop goes to bus Suji on D3 in that world

Was skimming guilty's iso and turns out he said it first. Living proof that having an avatar with a white background makes your posts invisible.

PM + Awoo could have hammered Suji. Pisskop was on that wagon. Pisskop bussing his partner would be literal suicide since he literally always get's POE'd out of the game.
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:17 pm

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Idk if anyone puts much stock in this, but TSE is also prob a better lynch here than awoo for purely mechanical reasons, namely the fact the slot is a double replacement

I’ve never done any cold hard stats on it, but I have paid attention to it ever since someone called replacements as having some value for reads in one of my early games and I still think it’s somewhat valid once a slot hits 2 replacements or more (excepting the slot seeming completely doomed to be lynched regardless of what happens)
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:19 pm

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So if that's a valid take, a red pisskop pretty much takes suji out of the lynchpool.

And that would replace in norwegian, who's ISO is still bad and I used to defend him but if he ends up in the lynchpool again he's literally defenseless because he's coasted all game
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:39 pm

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In post 1448, Menalque wrote:Awoo is still prob town for D2

Like I think awoo is town here probably 60-65% of the time
C's get degrees baby
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:40 pm

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I mean, again, if I’m right on just two of my reads then the game is borderline auto

So after a pk!redflip I’m not super fussed what order we do things in (like I’d rather do it in order of my scumreads obv but can live without if people strongly think another order is better)
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:41 pm

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That’s a fairly strong read townread from me awoo
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:42 pm

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Like I think my confidence threshold to make a vote in lylo is probably only 80-85% confident
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:44 pm

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No idea what that means but thanks and good night
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:45 pm

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In post 1457, Menalque wrote:I mean, again, if I’m right on just two of my reads then the game is borderline auto

So after a pk!redflip I’m not super fussed what order we do things in (like I’d rather do it in order of my scumreads obv but can live without if people strongly think another order is better)
For Fuck Sakes. PK is never Scum here.
Always Lynch Lion.
I refuse to put a loss on this for my record.
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:49 pm

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In post 54, Titus wrote:Pk, is Joey scum or derp town? The pain meds are fogging me.
He asks PK out of everyone.
In post 54, Titus wrote:Pk, is Joey scum or derp town? The pain meds are fogging me.
In post 197, Titus wrote:
In post 178, mutantdevle wrote:That said, my gut is telling me they are town. But right now I'm not listening to it, possibly because my logical conclusion is that the are scum, possibly out of spite.
Hey pisskop! If you quit voting scum, they'll townread you!
I don’t think you ever say this to a buddy
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:53 pm

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One last time. Are you going to answer my questions to you or not?
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:57 pm

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In post 1353, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1285, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1276, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Yo Asshole.
Your the one that was so keen to vote PM.
Joey voted them as well but at least they had a list.
I'm not sure how that post makes me an asshole or worthy of a direct personal attack, but you do you friend. I'm aware that I was keen on voting PM and pushed it (which is why I said I was wrong a needed to re-evaluate). However, if you look at the context of that post, I was responding directly to the fact that Awoo was stating that Creature started the counterwagon to PM on me. That is true, but Creature also wound up on PM prior to replacing out.
In post 1286, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1278, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 1269, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1268, Awoo wrote:He chilled out, then called you mafia which started a counterwagon to PM on you which was a good wagon, and I think that wagon had a lot of town on it, really it would make sense at this point to just kill everyone on the PM wagon starting with me tbh
He also voted PM prior to his replace out.

Do you believe that the D1 Nomination phase had 2+ scum in it?
^ Saying this last line here.
Scum Slipped.
Here’s why.
Lion, Nor and Titus were in The Wagon.
Titus Hammered
Nor with votes
Lion with no votes

My thought process here is, the fact they mentioned that Makes me have 101% Confidence that they are the scum team.
Also I noticed Suji is using allot of AtE.
Which is usually a scum tell for most Players.
Like -) “I’ll replace out” “oh maybe this wagon is false” “You’ll regret it because I’ll flip Town”
I'm not sure how asking a question is a scum slip, and the above explanation does not make sense to me. Could you try to be a little clearer? Also, could you point to where I have used AtE? I don't believe I've ever said the statements you are attributing to me.
Well what made you mention that question?
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:58 pm

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In post 1463, Sujimichi wrote:One last time. Are you going to answer my questions to you or not?
I don’t understand stuff unless just the main point is stated.
Anything that is a bunch of jibber jabber throws me off and makes it difficult for me to read correctly.
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:01 pm

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First post was not meant to be quoted as a question. My questions in the second post stand. Don't answer a question with a question.

Please clairfy your scumslip statement. Please point to my AtE.
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:01 pm

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In post 1465, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 1463, Sujimichi wrote:One last time. Are you going to answer my questions to you or not?
I don’t understand stuff unless just the main point is stated.
Anything that is a bunch of jibber jabber throws me off and makes it difficult for me to read correctly.
They were direct questions and easily understandable. Please don't pretend you didn't.
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:28 pm

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In post 1466, Sujimichi wrote:First post was not meant to be quoted as a question. My questions in the second post stand. Don't answer a question with a question.

Please clairfy your scumslip statement. Please point to my AtE.
I feel like you mentioned it because of scum slip.
Like I feel as you were hinting to it as you know it’s true, as your scum.
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:32 pm

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That is not a clairication. You have not pointed to any AtE. You claim to be experienced and good at this game, but you refuse to answer basic questions or perform any action outside your self-centered point-of-view. If you are town, you are a detriment. If you are scum, I will be happy.

VOTE: TSE

I will not be unvoting.
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:45 pm

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In post 1451, Awoo wrote:He also voted on suji which is neat. Would he go for the double?
I would and have driven the bus over weaker partners.
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:46 pm

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Titus isnt a weak player, though. Soooooo, i mean, titus is the kind of player i make beautiful theatre with.
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Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:49 pm

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I dislike suji, but the efforting that both he and melan are doing is real.

VOTE: awoo effort is not alignment indicative, but its decent.
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:50 pm

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I think suji's effort is more real than melan's melan is trying to wrangle lynches and hammer out a plan, and thats soo much less towny than the pedantic debating im seeing.
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:54 pm

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That's fairly insulting. I'm not being a pedant. I am trying to get answers to basic questions so that I can better glean an alignment. The fact that I have to press so hard for simple answers is ridiculous.
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