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Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:06 am
by Birds and the Boys
In post 1449, April Ludgate wrote:
I’ve essentially already claimed this, how else would i have the janitor ability.
I’m a JOAT. I have a 1 shot Janitor Vig.
This exact logic is why BS's comment is not a scumslip lol.
-turducken
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:06 am
by April Ludgate
Creature can be lean town based on his posts he made in the catchup. Good enough for me not to worry about him being scum right now unless things start to go bad, if that makes sense.
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:07 am
by Bingle
I don’t know. Mastina is the only one I think is actually scum but even thinking about pushing there right now makes me feel like I’m kicking my favorite puppy.
Im voting Dunn for :shrugs: while town hunting atm.
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:08 am
by April Ludgate
Disagree.
You protecting him is scummy now.
How does this logic do such?
In what world does Votato have to target th SCUM KILL as a Janitor Doctor ever make sense coming from town?
That only makes sense if scum factional kill is janitor.
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:08 am
by Birds and the Boys
April Ludgate is Nero Cain, I would bet.
- turducken
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:08 am
by Birds and the Boys
Or Enter
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:08 am
by April Ludgate
In post 1452, Bingle wrote:
I don’t know. Mastina is the only one I think is actually scum but even thinking about pushing there right now makes me feel like I’m kicking my favorite puppy.
Im voting Dunn for :shrugs: while town hunting atm.
@Votato - Target Mistanna, I’ll do so as well.
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:09 am
by April Ludgate
I don’t know what either of these mean
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:10 am
by HoldenGolden
In post 1448, April Ludgate wrote: In post 1443, HoldenGolden wrote: In post 1427, April Ludgate wrote: In post 1357, Blatant Scum wrote: In post 1342, HoldenGolden wrote: In post 1262, April Ludgate wrote:We literally can confirm the role, votato votes are scummy.
And if a role block comes in somewhere then it’s confirmed roleblock and we can lynch votato tomorrow.
No we realistically cannot given his addtional information about his role.
Town votato would be a prime target to get roleblocked. Scum votato can just claim to be rbed. Thus votato claiming to be roleblocked day 2 would be NAI.
If we do somehow coordinate a town KP, you, and votato (who all have to be town for it to work) all on the same person without scum interference, then we all should laugh before beating the scum team for being incompetent.
Tldr: the only way town!votato can be confirmed given what we know is if the scum team makes a mistake (or they dont have a roleblocker/way to stop it). As such the plan to confirm him is far too risky since scum!votato can lie about the rb and then the town KP needed to set it all off kills the target. It can be minimized I guess by choosing a scummy person to kill theoretically, but then that's also going down the rabbit hole of further role speculation.
Wastling a vigi shot probably isn't worth confirming votato.
Don’t you think he’s scum?
It’s not a waste if he’s scum.
This is literally the point of it all.
If a kill goes through, he is essentially confirmed scum. If not, then he’s town or scum and I was blocked or he was blocked. That’s great info.
People who are trying to against this are just plain scummy regardless of your read on Votato.
I’m actually dead null on Votato as of right now tbh. I just don’t care enough to think about the slot today when i can get more info out of it over night.
Because it requires 3 Town PRs assuming that votato and you are town to pull off and has a high chance of giving scum a second kill that would be cleaned if they have a common role or if votato is scum?
Your plan has a chance. It's effectively putting all your chips on one number in roulette though. At that point we can just bet on there being an invest role to check him and free up whoever the town PRs are for use else where.
Pedit: what? Souldnt that instead implied I scumslipped since I brought up the vig comment?
There’s literally no downside...idk why people are acting like there is. We can just lynch him tomorrow if he isn’t confirmed.
No, you didn’t say that Votato and I have to target the scum kill.
Why would the scum kill matter? He doesn’t protect a regular scum kill, he can only protect people that have been janitored.
BS slipped that the scum kill is a factional janitor.
Votato said:
-target must be targeted with an attack and attempt to be cleaned
Which is why I said:
-Then the plan needs a 3rd town KP to make sure the plan works.
Then BS says
-no need to waste a vig shot
A vig is the most common form of town KP. And there is a major downside if votato is scum or scum had RB since we are trading 1-3 town pr actions (depending on you and votato alignment) for 1 of scums actions at most.
I'm confused april
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:13 am
by PenguinPower
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:14 am
by Birds and the Boys
In post 1453, April Ludgate wrote:
Disagree.
You protecting him is scummy now.
How does this logic do such?
In what world does Votato have to target th SCUM KILL as a Janitor Doctor ever make sense coming from town?
That only makes sense if scum factional kill is janitor.
I will let BS defend himself to see if I am right, but I just get the feeling you're missing the obvious thought process because you know your role and thought that is clouding your perception of the situation.
@Votato, do you have any strong opinions now?
- turducken
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:16 am
by HoldenGolden
The only reason I'm not crazed over the dunn lynch is that I've seen a game where town!dunn is the same here.
Terribly out dated meta but still
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:17 am
by Birds and the Boys
This is a good plan, though.
Dunnstral should be the lynch today not BS.
- turducken
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:17 am
by Birds and the Boys
In post 1461, HoldenGolden wrote:The only reason I'm not crazed over the dunn lynch is that I've seen a game where town!dunn is the same here.
Terribly out dated meta but still
Most recent Dunnstral meta shows he is way more involved in games as town. He actually is trying to solve stuff. Here... he is not.
- turducken
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:18 am
by April Ludgate
I could be tunneled, i admit.
I’ll stop pushing it and come back to it later.
Regardless, I think BS or Dunn should be the lynch today.
@Penguin - we should just disregard that anyways. It’s a moo point.
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:18 am
by Blatant Scum
In post 1401, votato wrote:a) I'm not sure innocent child fits with penguin.
b) it still seems odd to out that early since it makes you an obvious target for night kills, and there was legitimately little pressure on you.
I can shoot PP tonight to confirm he is town.
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:19 am
by April Ludgate
Mind meld.
VOTE: Dunnstral
I accept my tunnel on BS for now.
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:20 am
by Birds and the Boys
In post 1465, Blatant Scum wrote: In post 1401, votato wrote:a) I'm not sure innocent child fits with penguin.
b) it still seems odd to out that early since it makes you an obvious target for night kills, and there was legitimately little pressure on you.
I can shoot PP tonight to confirm he is town.
You're a vig too? da heck is this game.
- turducken
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:22 am
by April Ludgate
In post 1467, Birds and the Boys wrote: In post 1465, Blatant Scum wrote: In post 1401, votato wrote:a) I'm not sure innocent child fits with penguin.
b) it still seems odd to out that early since it makes you an obvious target for night kills, and there was legitimately little pressure on you.
I can shoot PP tonight to confirm he is town.
You're a vig too? da heck is this game.
- turducken
7 deaths possible, everyone’s a Vig.
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:22 am
by PenguinPower
you got it.
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:23 am
by April Ludgate
Here’s a Vig, there’s a Vig, everywhere’s a Vig Vig, old McDonald had a farm, with a lot of dead bodies
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:23 am
by HoldenGolden
In post 1463, Birds and the Boys wrote: In post 1461, HoldenGolden wrote:The only reason I'm not crazed over the dunn lynch is that I've seen a game where town!dunn is the same here.
Terribly out dated meta but still
Most recent Dunnstral meta shows he is way more involved in games as town. He actually is trying to solve stuff. Here... he is not.
- turducken
Then i retract my statement and welcome him to the pool
VOTE: Dunnstral
I can help as well since I'm the One Shot Macho confused flying pumpkin that shoots lasers out of its ass miller.
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:23 am
by PenguinPower
In post 1465, Blatant Scum wrote: In post 1401, votato wrote:a) I'm not sure innocent child fits with penguin.
b) it still seems odd to out that early since it makes you an obvious target for night kills, and there was legitimately little pressure on you.
I can shoot PP tonight to confirm he is town.
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:25 am
by Clover Ebi
I find it interesting how people on this site lynch lurkers without making such a big fuss about it.
@Holden
The reason I dislike Dr Easy Bake is mostly based on his behavior. It's not even close to what I played with before. I don't get how he has the reads he does and I feel like they're not genuine. It's not amazing reasoning but it's my own.
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:27 am
by Clover Ebi
I don't really have any reason to vote Dunnstral. Then again I don't have any reason to
not
vote Dunnstral. I think I'll wait for a VC to see what the wagon is like.