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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:47 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1406, skitter30 wrote:I dont love pooky encouraging ss to lolhammer aldu
do you think aldus is scum?

do you think I think aldus is scum?

also glad to see the game has taken a turn for the positive :D

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:49 am
by lilith2013
man already missing pagetops

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:56 am
by lilith2013
yikes I’ve reached the toxicity. Is it worth wading through or can I just ignore all koba and DC posts from here on out?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:59 am
by skitter30
tw i'm acknowledging i see your posts but i just ... don't wanna respond to them rn. ok if i get to them later today?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:00 am
by skitter30
In post 1452, lilith2013 wrote:yikes I’ve reached the toxicity. Is it worth wading through or can I just ignore all koba and DC posts from here on out?
i would skim slightly, there's a dayvig reaction test in there that's relevant/important

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:00 am
by skitter30
In post 1450, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1406, skitter30 wrote:I dont love pooky encouraging ss to lolhammer aldu
do you think aldus is scum?

do you think I think aldus is scum?

also glad to see the game has taken a turn for the positive :D
I'm not sure if aldu is scum, i think you think he is, yes

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:02 am
by lilith2013
In post 1454, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1452, lilith2013 wrote:yikes I’ve reached the toxicity. Is it worth wading through or can I just ignore all koba and DC posts from here on out?
i would skim slightly, there's a dayvig reaction test in there that's relevant/important
Okay

how come you seem sad?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:07 am
by lilith2013
Spoiler:
In post 974, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:If you don't read any of my posts - I hope you read this one, it's long but worth it imo:



Why I do not believe Aldus Explanation:



Aldus's explanation of his "paranoia" about DonC's "masked nature" is that "Exploring possibilities + raising doubt about it means that DC isn't confirmed as vanilla which helps town PRs hide"


A) The Assumption here is that the scum have looked at the masked game and now know DonC is a vanilla townie based off his role and this narrows the room for the NKs to be in in looking for power-roles - it's not clear the scum have done that much research or thought of this. It's also not clear if DonC is even a townie to begin with - he could just be mafia in which case the scum know the Masked role is not a PR.

B) Instead of "exploring" and keeping the possibility open that DonC is not forced into the mask by the mod and actually did it on his own and thus could be a power role - Aldus's questions to the moderator actually make this possibility certainly impossible - basically confirming for the scum if they are not DonC that DonC is definitely a townie if he is not scum since his role is from that vanilla game.

C) Picture yourself getting dealt a protown power role, now you decide to hide your identity as a power role by going to the moderator and asking for a change to your username in game to "Miccro Mask" in order to pretend you are a vanilla townie - how is this a good idea? What if a tracker tracks your movement and sees you did an action at night and now the tracker thinks you are mafia from that game? What if another player got dealt vanilla townie in that game and then opens up on you immediately on day 1? What do you say at that point? oops I'm actually a protown power role from ANOTHER game and I decided to fake being from this vanilla game in order to throw the mafia off my tracks? Like who would believe this? Literally one of the easiest lynches ever if you are ever caught out and hence why the downside far outweighs any potential gain.

4) In case he is right that some protown power role did do this (which I find unlikely as hell) why would he call them out on it and spotlight it for the scum? That side of the move also does not make sense.

5) I honestly find it highly unlikely that Aldus actually had originally thought of this because it's such a ridiculous play for a protown power role to make - I think he made this up after he got called out by me for his paranoia because it doesn't make any sense. Now he's saying it's actually fake paranoia for a different alternate protown purpose, but just think for a second how difficult it would be to believe that a protown power role would decide to hide themselves in a different vanilla game by telling the moderator to change the participation account from their account to a masked account in the pregame immediately after roles are dealt out - like would anyone believe that a power role would do this? I don't think so and I don't see how it's reasonable for Aldus to think this is possible either.


Conclusion: Aldus's paranoia of Micro Mask's "Masked Nature" in the early stages of the game did not make sense - he now admits it was faked in order to confuse the scum - his explanation does not make sense for the reasons I highlighted below. I think it's very possible that if we feed Aldus some rope today he will flip red.

First post from pooky that I liked and I agree with it, aldus’ missing reasons for doing this whole shenanigan was nagging me while reading and his (aldus’) explanation is awful. probably am fine with executing aldus

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:08 am
by lilith2013
duckling, why did you previously claim something with datisi if you are now hypothetically masons with pooky

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:08 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1455, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1450, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1406, skitter30 wrote:I dont love pooky encouraging ss to lolhammer aldu
do you think aldus is scum?

do you think I think aldus is scum?

also glad to see the game has taken a turn for the positive :D
I'm not sure if aldu is scum, i think you think he is, yes
Ok so if you think I think aldus is scum - why wouldn't I encourage the quickhammah to get us a point on the board?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:10 am
by skitter30
In post 1456, lilith2013 wrote:how come you seem sad?
Life is a wee bit stressful atm. Things are looking up but i dont have oodles of energy atm

Pedit just cuz you think he's scum doesnt mean it was the right time to end the day just yet for the town collectively

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:10 am
by lilith2013
Dude it’s super anti-town to not let ss and me get caught up first. no offense but if you locked the thread right now and told me to catch up during night, I probably wouldn’t read

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:11 am
by lilith2013
Actually yes offense, I mean offense with that. Let me get caught the fuck up

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:11 am
by lilith2013
In post 1460, skitter30 wrote:Life is a wee bit stressful atm. Things are looking up but i dont have oodles of energy atm
Sorry to hear that, hope it gets better soon <3

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:12 am
by skitter30
In post 1458, lilith2013 wrote:duckling, why did you previously claim something with datisi if you are now hypothetically masons with pooky
i'd be willing to bet that was a memeclaim

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:12 am
by skitter30
ty

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:13 am
by lilith2013
ugh I don’t like when people do that

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:13 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I'm not trying to offend you sorry :(

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:15 am
by lilith2013
what? I’m not offended

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:15 am
by lilith2013
Just like hold your horses

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:43 am
by lilith2013
Okay I’m reasonably caught up and am at a point where I want to hear non-pooky players’ reasons for being on the aldus wagon

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:45 am
by lilith2013
paging duckling, dsjstr, and datisi

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:52 am
by bugspray
In post 1355, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you could just hammer aldus now and re-read the thread during the night
this post is anti town

hey im catching up

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:53 am
by Datisi
lilith, you called?

err, lowkey not sure myself? like it was some sorta aldus/dsjstr PoE (since everyone else was seeming townier at the time), dsjsrt's recent posts were actually leaving good impressions on me, and i was interested in why aldus thought dsjstr's questions were good when he himself said they weren't

i as of right now am not sure whether i want to proceed with it because i'm still kinda digesting the tw/skitt thing

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:54 am
by bugspray
In post 1362, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1359, Something_Smart wrote:If I'm gonna hammer him, I'd rather it be an informed decision.
Information is highly overrated. I find I make my best decisions when I don't do much thought.
are you me?