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replying to hopkirk
i slightly lean scum on you
though i have several better targets

VOTE: adorable
i want to get a wagon on this

Hopkirk has taken no stances of note, gets maddeningly turned around and stuck on mechanics, is using an obfuscatory posting style, and is dodging any attempt to corner them into producing content.

from MUGO - which part of that is scummy from day one of the game?

Like seriously 'dodging any attempt to corner them into producing content?' Going to want to get clarification on what you mean here.

In post 1176, Theta Alpine wrote:faking a post restriction would normally be rather scummy in my book but i am fairly sure in this game it is not alignment indicative

they did seem to attempt some discussion on game mechanics which i like

the blank vote on noraa is lean scum for me
i personally think scum would at least try to explain their vote though

they agreed with another players reads without much elaboration which does not sit right with me
but i feel like this early in the game it is excusable

In post 1178, Theta Alpine wrote:yeah

i am willing to kill them at the moment but i strongly believe other slots are more likely to be scum

Fence sitty in post one. Doesn't take a stance until directly called to at which point has a stance. Hmmmm.
Going to what detail about which parts of that were AI in a meaningful way there and how much each one contributed since I thought that was a light town lean on me from your first post there.

In post 1179, Theta Alpine wrote:like seriously how do you expect to get towncred with a blank vote
that does not make sense to me
but maybe they expected town to look for bussers so idk

why do i need towncred in this setup?

@Lady - since I'm back now it's fine for you to let everyone know you were just doing this as a reaction test for the more nullish slots. I'm assuming you've got similar leans like I have from it (bad on theta for example)

In post 1443, MURDERCAT wrote:Gotcha. "Widely townread" is not a position I often find myself in, but when I do I'm never quite sure what the difference is.

In post 1448, MURDERCAT wrote:

In post 1445, Bell wrote:The difference between scum reading you as town and town reading you as town?

Probably

Probably?

In post 1422, shellyc wrote:vax entrance was rather consensus-y not sure if I like that + their pred was the null isis

Idk I feel like there are scum in the lurker zone given how much I TR much of the rather active players

now gunna reread pooky-taylor

nah the isis slot is town.

I feel like its going to turn out that LLD's push on Hopkirk was just reaction testing like hopkirk said.

In post 1454, Tayl0r Swift wrote:nah the isis slot is town.

based on what

hopkirk
almost the entirety of my scum lean on you is that you made a blank vote on a popular wagon
with slight influences from faking a post restriction and the way you agreed with another players reads without elaboration

and honestly the more i thought about the blank vote the less i wanted to kill you because it simply did not make sense for scum to behave that way if noraa is scum
but i am also operating under the assumption that noraa could be town in which case that would be a valid scum lean

so let me just say that i do not think you and noraa are scum together
my scum lean on you is conditional on noraa being town

In post 1450, Theta Alpine wrote:replying to hopkirk
i slightly lean scum on you
though i have several better targets

VOTE: adorable
i want to get a wagon on this

why do you lean scum on hopkirk? why are teh other targets better? why a vote on adorable?

@Hopkirk counter question to town cred question. Why are you trying to look town right now if you don't care about town cred by dropping the act?

In post 1459, Bell wrote:@Hopkirk counter question to town cred question. Why are you trying to look town right now if you don't care about town cred by dropping the act?

Did he mention that he is trying to look town now?

In post 1457, Theta Alpine wrote:hopkirk
almost the entirety of my scum lean on you is that you made a blank vote on a popular wagon
with slight influences from faking a post restriction and the way you agreed with another players reads without elaboration

and honestly the more i thought about the blank vote the less i wanted to kill you because it simply did not make sense for scum to behave that way if noraa is scum
but i am also operating under the assumption that noraa could be town in which case that would be a valid scum lean

so let me just say that i do not think you and noraa are scum together
my scum lean on you is conditional on noraa being town

are you comfortable up on that fence?

to me this post screams theta scum, noraa town, hopkirk town.

In post 1456, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 1454, Tayl0r Swift wrote:nah the isis slot is town.

based on what

you know what.

@Theta and Vaxkiller: 1426 is interested in what you think.

In post 1359, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Isis is gone so obviously I can't soul-read her and Hectic is the moderator so you're just trolling me at this point

Are you feeling ok? The kind of passive overreaction of this feels like it's come from a less good (irl, not game related) headspace.

In post 1371, Hectic wrote:

Vaxkiller replaces Isis! Give them the warmest of welcomes.

Hey Vax I'm so sorry nobody else welcomed you very much. Welcome to our game, hope you enjoy it

In post 1381, shellyc wrote:

In post 1377, Hopkirk wrote:This is probably scum.

isn't the pro scum play here to just. bus Noraa and get LLD and misdirect LLD

In post 1382, shellyc wrote:I don't get scum motivation to sit on their hands on Noraa slot
they just bus Noraa with LLD impossible to marginalise now

isn't Lapsa a lurker as either align

If Noraa is town (say 30%, though I was closer to 60% when I made this post) then quickhammering is suicide and they lose nothing by dragging a Lady vs
Noraa fight out for ages. It bogs stuff down and creates mess. I'm getting a sense like a lot of scum just aren't posting here and wanted to let things play along.

If Noraa is scum, either they think they can change the wagon, or they don't want to look like obvious bussing. I think we were already looking for people bussing at that point. If we weren't 'look for bussing' is pretty strong site meta as far as I'm aware, so I can see this just being a newbscum who isn't sure of the best way to react to this but wants to post something. The tone reads as really 'don't want to get on anyone's bad side' at a glance.

In post 1385, shellyc wrote:

In post 1383, Hopkirk wrote:A decent part of my Zdenek townread, looking to be one of my spicier reads atm, is that blatantly bad 'we should do this strategy' style posts come from newbtown from a good place (which I get in the tone of their follow ups to me in regard to it), not newbscum trying to fake content.

ehhhh

but the easiest way of fake content is a mech oriented approach

also this feels like a game which I can solve through PoE
murder/mush/Taylor/fidget/hopkirk
these are town slots

I can't back it up with stats, but I have a strong feeling that this kind of 'propose a bad strategy that they vaguely believe in then drop it' comes from town trying to be helpful rather than scum, especially for new players. I don't think new scum ever really proposes a strategy that they because that's so attention grabbing and has no utility if there's even a couple of experienced players to discredit it afterwards.

Thinking back to all of the LONG (offsite) arguments I've had about 'yes we should lethal someone day one' and 'no we shouldn't list out all of our reads from most to least town multiple times a day', I gut townread the behavior.

In post 1460, Vaxkiller wrote:

In post 1459, Bell wrote:@Hopkirk counter question to town cred question. Why are you trying to look town right now if you don't care about town cred by dropping the act?

Did he mention that he is trying to look town now?

Do you think he isn't?

In post 1432, Bell wrote: Behavioralism. She's scum reading whoever gives her a hard time and town reads whoever doesn't. Also, I voted her way before she voted me so I can't be omgusing her, when she's omgusing me, but she keeps forgetting that.

Who would be your next vote?

I do believe Taylor is no longer a hot take town read.
But just a regular town read.

In post 1467, Bell wrote:I do believe Taylor is no longer a hot take town read.
But just a regular town read.

NOOOOOO im very hot!

i have her as SR where are you seeing her as TR

In post 1462, Tayl0r Swift wrote:you know what.

nope

In post 1466, UNOwen wrote:

In post 1432, Bell wrote: Behavioralism. She's scum reading whoever gives her a hard time and town reads whoever doesn't. Also, I voted her way before she voted me so I can't be omgusing her, when she's omgusing me, but she keeps forgetting that.

Who would be your next vote?

I'm not sure. There's kind of like, 4-6 people I want to vote RN.
Lapsa, The guy that just replaced out. Hopkirk. Zdenek. pooky.
Maginally Theta

Pedit: I knew you'd say something like that.

im actually thinking

Taylor - > Pooky -> Noraa would be a pretty damn good scroll pass

Why do you think taylor is scum.

In post 1465, Bell wrote:

In post 1460, Vaxkiller wrote:

In post 1459, Bell wrote:@Hopkirk counter question to town cred question. Why are you trying to look town right now if you don't care about town cred by dropping the act?

Did he mention that he is trying to look town now?

Do you think he isn't?

He is active and giving his thoughts. Weather they are town or scum I can't say yet, but you were just throwing shade instead of asking a real question you want an answer to.