I can try. Going to spoiler again, as this doesn't feel that productive/as organized as I'd like.
Here's more thoughts on why I put mom where I did
Spoiler:
For Mom, things I like:
"let mola play, solid scumhunter, boon for town if town"
"CAN WE STOP TALKING ABOUT CLAIMS"
Sus of me, actually. Reminds me of town in a different game.
Willing to vote Ranny, I was in full agreement with them in not liking that string of posts.
Things that confused me/I didn't like:
back and forth with Andre, especially the thing about Andre's tone being "size me up". Felt almost purposely obtuse/arguing not in good faith.
Stating that specificity of NM's claim was towny.
That readlist. Plusjoyed and Hayker just above being scummy, Binatong + me + gamma as scum, NM as just below town, townlock Mini, DBG, Titus... it confuses the hell out of me.
A little lurkey. Just a little. Pops in at interesting times.
From my perspective, we see the game very differently, the last person that just flat out hated my play was very town, I like some stuff I don't like others, so it's null for me, but near the bottom.
I can do the same thing for Vax, but I find myself agreeing with Rannygazoo. Huh. I liked a rainycat post. I don't know how useful my reads are anyway, just wanted to put them out there. Probably why I spoilered them.
I'm going to go hide I mean work for a bit. Someone ping me if they need me.
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:47 am
by Bypasser Catcher
why are you spoilering all your supposedly important content?
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:51 am
by Bypasser Catcher
call me biased but like i have seen a recent trend of seeing certain people who flipped scum hiding stuff within spoilers for whatever reason (idek why they did this) so its like setting off confbias pings on you rn.
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because I'm literally insecure about it being important content.
I am absolutely sure that very few people care about my justifying my day1 read on Mom. if they do, they can click the button and read it.
I'm trying to post less walls of useless info. It's day1, and I'm struggling to find useful info in a 20 person game that hasn't already been discussed to death. It feels like we're almost in a holding pattern at this point, waiting for a flip, night kills, and night actions for more info.
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:54 am
by quiet
I tried to start spoilering a bit in my first newbie game at the end, for the same reason. trying to not do the distracting wallpost thing.
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:55 am
by NorwegianboyEE
This is getting boring.
Can we herd all the sheep onto this Hayker wagon.
molla's fake miller claim doesn't sit well with me.
As for Binatog, the short iso is the case.
I really still can’t believe for the life of me that after this many pages of content, the biggest reason you want to vote someone is because of a retracted claim that happened eons ago. Really fascinating stuff.
Uh, this is pretty lazy. I voted Hawker because NM claimed and I was sheeping others to get off that wagon. I even said later that I don’t know what makes Hawker stand out from other lurkers. Is lazy the new Titus meta?
Huh
If we wanna vote BC I think that’s a good move
In post 1343, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think you decided to whiteknight NM and once the momentum slowed felt like expressing a lean scum read on NM that you still have no intention of acting on
I might discuss it with others but I don’t think you’re gonna change my mind
That Scum Lean did not sit well with me either, actually. So I’m with you there. Don’t know that I want to break up the wagon on Hayker for it just yet.
Huh
If we wanna vote BC I think that’s a good move
In post 1343, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think you decided to whiteknight NM and once the momentum slowed felt like expressing a lean scum read on NM that you still have no intention of acting on
I might discuss it with others but I don’t think you’re gonna change my mind
That Scum Lean did not sit well with me either, actually. So I’m with you there. Don’t know that I want to break up the wagon on Hayker for it just yet.
just full FOS me so i dont get night killed pls
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:12 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1357, Bypasser Catcher wrote:This isn't a place where I'm seeing the same vibe from NM. I'm not infallible. I make mistakes. I'm definitely allowed to rectify them later when I see evidence that shows that I was wrong.
Except your argument for shielding Not_Mafia had nothing to do with vibes, and everything to do with game state. What evidence did you see that changed your mind? I might have missed it so I’ll keep reading.
I’m on board with all of these, especially hawker.
These are also (I believe) the first, second, and third most lurkey slots. Do you have any reads that aren’t on lurkers? Or was that the basis of your reads?
I've given a number of non-lurker reads already.
I'm also not scumreading those slots for their lurking, but for their content (or lack thereof).
scumreading for early lurking without content is the same thing as scumreading for not having content
Plus you’re so horribly underwhelming it makes me sad.
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:17 am
by Andresvmb
1362 - @Vax I had quoted in my immediate prior post a vote by Ranny on DGB. I thought it felt off. But I have a Negative Lean on DGB so I’m not looking to push Ranny too much. I did get upset at them before leaving yesterday, but it’s whatever they seemed to really believe that what they were pushing was pro-Town so I’ll let it slide.
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:18 am
by DkKoba
alright i wanna say this too: i wanna say that im comfortable townblocking these people right now: luca blight, andres, gamma, binatog(i know, hot take but thats my view. but trust me on it if i die tonight. at least for d2/d3.)
close to doing so: norwegianboy
potential addition down the line: ranny, titus
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:19 am
by Bypasser Catcher
In post 1466, DkKoba wrote:alright i wanna say this too: i wanna say that im comfortable townblocking these people right now: luca blight, andres, gamma, binatog(i know, hot take but thats my view. but trust me on it if i die tonight. at least for d2/d3.)
close to doing so: norwegianboy
potential addition down the line: ranny, titus
motherfucker
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:19 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1362, Vaxkiller wrote:Makes sense. I just don't like that his PR claim is good enough to be useful, while at the same time weak enough to be believable as to why they would not to be killed overnight.
I’ve seen Not_Mafia make a Claim that actually made them a dangerous player for Scum to keep around (as Town), and Scum chose not to execute there anyway. Unless Not_Mafia had claimed Cop or something, I don’t know that the Claim itself matters that much for what’s going to happen. That’s my prediction.
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:20 am
by Norfolk Boy1
You need 2 devices, Koba.
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:26 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1410, PlusJOYED wrote:I'm waiting for something of substance to happen like an elim
This kind of thing pings me coming from you plus. I have you as a rather cheery Town that likes to go into the weeds of things and try to surmise big picture what’s happening. You’ve paid this game so little attention, I have to think there’s something else going on. I’m not even sure it’s game related.
I don’t know that Scum comes on and posts this sort of nonsense - it’s like too obviously bad.
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:26 am
by Rannygazoo
BC’s play is so different from NPOM’s play. I never would have guessed it’s the same slot.
In post 1410, PlusJOYED wrote:I'm waiting for something of substance to happen like an elim
This kind of thing pings me coming from you plus. I have you as a rather cheery Town that likes to go into the weeds of things and try to surmise big picture what’s happening. You’ve paid this game so little attention, I have to think there’s something else going on. I’m not even sure it’s game related.
I don’t know that Scum comes on and posts this sort of nonsense - it’s like too obviously bad.
I want to see this plus you’re talking about. The plus we have now is EXACTLY the one from Mini Theme 2172.
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:29 am
by Bypasser Catcher
andres, even excluding me, can you agree with my townblock list? I wanna try approaching this game in a way that puts scum in a really shite situation of being PoE'd.
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:33 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1473, Bypasser Catcher wrote:andres, even excluding me, can you agree with my townblock list? I wanna try approaching this game in a way that puts scum in a really shite situation of being PoE'd.
Gamma, yes. Binatog? I think so? They didn’t take me up on deep diving one player and just giving us their unfiltered thoughts, but the perspective seems Town. Luca? It depends. If Hayker flips Scum, definitely not. They’re softly trying to move the wagon to plus without sticking their neck out too much. I have them as Town but would reconsider with a Hayker Scum flip.