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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:04 am
by Elements
Have good sleeps

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:07 am
by Elements
Disclaimer: I'm going to treat myself as town for this analysis because that takes out a variable and makes this easier for me.

People who voted the wagons day 2:

BBT: Grib, Elements, Frog, Eira, Aisa, Enchant

Frog: Enchant, Aisa, Bella, BBT, NM, Fire


Case where Frog is town:

End of day was Aisa and Enchant picking between BBT and Frog. Aisa voted BBT, Enchant hammered. Aisa town, Enchant prob town. I think Enchant could've voted BBT and and Aisa would've switched to get a lim through.
That gets us to:
Enchant, Fire, Aisa, Elements town. So likely for the BBT lim to go through over the Frog lim I think the team has to be Bella, BBT, NM. I don't think NM unvotes Frog as scum in that situation but it is NM so....
I think I've just convinced myself Frog is scum.

VOTE: Frog

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:15 am
by Elements
Onto the Frog is scum case:

People who voted the wagons day 2:

BBT: Grib, Elements, Frog, Eira, Aisa, Enchant

Frog: Enchant, Aisa, Bella, BBT, NM, Fire

Case where Frog is scum:

BBT voting Frog could've started out as distancing maybe? When it was clear they were the only viable wagons I don't think them voting each other says anything. I guess that's more rlly assuming Frog is scum but I wanted to say it.
My NM not voting BBT kinda falls apart a bit actually as NM did vote Frog. But unvoted at the end of the day?
I think there would've had to be a big scum discussion about who to bus and masterful handling of the end of the day for Aisa to be the third scum.
Grib scum and me scum are the same case I think here?
I haven't read through Eira yet so maybe this is premature but I can see that being scum?

This analysis has been vastly swayed by my current reads so take it how you will.

I'd like to lim in [NM, Frog, Eira] today I think

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:16 am
by Elements
Those posts I think also fairly well sum up my Aisa opinions

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:22 am
by Eiralox
UNVOTE:

what made you feel better about bellaphant?

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:42 am
by Elements
In post 510, Frogsterking wrote:Lol I'm not scum with BBT, officer. I swear, honestly :shifty:
This is fun

In post 1191, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1178, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You were in the LOST game, you definitely saw me casing numerous people
No, I didn't see you do much of that in LOST.
This is Frog's only interaction with BBT
There's little to no interaction with Bella, Eira, and NM either. But there is a town read on Bella.

oh wait, there's another interaction with BBT that is Frog saying he'd get back to BBT which he never did.

Not sure why town!Frog doesn't interact with BBT when he doesn't really have a read on BBT for a fair bit of that game.
I can see Frog not knowing how to interact "well" with a scum partner (that's something I find hard) and from BBT's push on frog at the start of day 1 being distancing that they decided to keep up. The not knowing how to interact with scum partners also ties into my NM/Eira being the 3rd scum theory as there aren't any reads on either of those two I could find n Frog's iso.
I'm worried this is now me thinking up ways in which Frog!scum works and then using that to enforce my scum!Frog read

I think frog should be our flip today. I think he's scum, and if he's town the end of the day yesterday is mad wagon analysis.

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:45 am
by Elements
In post 1454, Eiralox wrote:what made you feel better about bellaphant?
Bella is who I would vote if you/NM/Frog all came out as ICs. She's my next port of call if I'm wrong about you 3. So it's less feeling better about Bella and more feeling better about my scumreads elsewhere

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:47 am
by Eiralox
and you feel i'm scum because....?

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:51 am
by Elements
There's residual tiltage from you voting me with nothing else. You're still on my list to iso (it's you and grib left) so my thoughts on you might change

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:53 am
by Eiralox
hhhm ok interesting reason.

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:54 am
by Elements
while you're here what are your thoughts on Bella, Frog, and Enchant?

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:56 am
by Elements
has BBT rolled scum before?

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:57 am
by Eiralox
bella is town. frog scummy but awol, like talking about bigfoot at this point. enchant is a pointy eared mystery.

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:58 am
by Eiralox
In post 1461, Elements wrote:has BBT rolled scum before?
afaik theyre experienced so yeah probably

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:05 pm
by Elements
In post 1462, Eiralox wrote:enchant is a pointy eared mystery.
Similar thoughts on NM?

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:13 pm
by Elements
So I've looked at a few of BBT's scum games and have noticed something:

Newbie 2099 - Calls partner scum and votes them
Newbie 2096 - Calls partner scum and votes them
Mini Normal 2016 - Buddy1: Starts with not much of a read then ends up bussing, Buddy2: Scum reads early and votes

BBT likes to bus!
BBT has voted all of Frog/NM/Eira and pushed Frog yesterday.
It all points to Frog!scum.

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:13 pm
by Eiralox
In post 1464, Elements wrote:
In post 1462, Eiralox wrote:enchant is a pointy eared mystery.
Similar thoughts on NM?
i'm more lost on n_m tbh. with enchant, i know they're engaged. whether as scum or town i'm still meh on... i wanna hear more on their vote on me.

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:16 pm
by Elements
Grib, Aisa and me?

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:17 pm
by Elements
Ugh
I'm getting bogged down trying to get through Grib and Eira's iso
this always happens. I leave the longer ISOs to last and then get tired before I get through them

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:19 pm
by Eiralox
In post 1467, Elements wrote:Grib, Aisa and me?
no comment.

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:22 pm
by Elements
In post 1469, Eiralox wrote:
In post 1467, Elements wrote:Grib, Aisa and me?
no comment.
why not?

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:24 pm
by Elements
In post 1462, Eiralox wrote:frog scummy but awol, like talking about bigfoot at this point.
You say you don't think talking about people who aren't active isn't particularly helpful yet aren't helpful now I'm trying to interact with you?

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:30 pm
by Eiralox
i'm not saying it's not helpful, there are some very interesting theories for why frogsterking scum!

I generally like to hash things out in person with someone, tho, and if they've been gone for a long time i'm wary of letting others form my opinions for me. so i wasn't dissing what u saying but explaining how i work, i guess.

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:33 pm
by Elements
In post 1469, Eiralox wrote:
In post 1467, Elements wrote:Grib, Aisa and me?
no comment.
care to explain this part of your play style?

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:37 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
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