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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:00 am
by Frozen Angel
In post 1445, Yume wrote:The check would really work on two certain players. mastina is one of them.
check the other slot then.
if what you say is true there is very decent chance that one of those 2 is actually scum if not both in a way or setup is designed to give you a fake clear on them somehow
if not why would it be restricted on those 2 slots?
no matter what you had no reason to claim having a verifier role out of nowhere in dusk 1 for absoloutly no reason in a game in which even converts can exist.
how could you even become worse in this game over all these years?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:01 am
by Yume
In post 1443, Frozen Angel wrote: In post 1436, Yume wrote:
I didn't read all of them, just the ones about mastina, and as someone who hydraed with her, I know how she plays, and your case is pigswill.
so you read
802 805 810 813 849 and
983 in 2 minutes and decided that my case is pigs will?
If you have no respect for me and my word to even spend time reading it, I can also return the favor and have 0 respect for you
It's true, and here is why: all your points against mastina ignore her character. One, she likes to make long posts. Two, she appears more confident that she actually is. Three, she is busy. You scumread her posts, but ignore the person behind them. That's why your case is bad.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:01 am
by MathBlade
FA to be fair, I think converts are unlikely (but still possible), because of my role.
It’s what made me sus of the 6 in the first place.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:02 am
by MathBlade
In post 1451, Yume wrote: In post 1443, Frozen Angel wrote: In post 1436, Yume wrote:
I didn't read all of them, just the ones about mastina, and as someone who hydraed with her, I know how she plays, and your case is pigswill.
so you read
802 805 810 813 849 and
983 in 2 minutes and decided that my case is pigs will?
If you have no respect for me and my word to even spend time reading it, I can also return the favor and have 0 respect for you
It's true, and here is why: all your points against mastina ignore her character. One, she likes to make long posts. Two, she appears more confident that she actually is. Three, she is busy. You scumread her posts, but ignore the person behind them. That's why your case is bad.
And my case which is almost exclusively person / strategy based is bad because ….
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:03 am
by Frozen Angel
I specifically never ignored her character. I'm voting her for she having her character but faking attributes of it and those posts explain why.
Try again in reading the posts before making another comment
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:04 am
by Enchant
UNVOTE:
I sleep
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:04 am
by Yume
In post 1453, MathBlade wrote: In post 1451, Yume wrote: In post 1443, Frozen Angel wrote: In post 1436, Yume wrote:
I didn't read all of them, just the ones about mastina, and as someone who hydraed with her, I know how she plays, and your case is pigswill.
so you read
802 805 810 813 849 and
983 in 2 minutes and decided that my case is pigs will?
If you have no respect for me and my word to even spend time reading it, I can also return the favor and have 0 respect for you
It's true, and here is why: all your points against mastina ignore her character. One, she likes to make long posts. Two, she appears more confident that she actually is. Three, she is busy. You scumread her posts, but ignore the person behind them. That's why your case is bad.
And my case which is almost exclusively person / strategy based is bad because ….
Because you're in tunnel mode and until you're out of it, there is no use talking to you.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:04 am
by MathBlade
I think Mastina is at
*E-1*
if my votes are right.
Pedit: nevermind
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:04 am
by Frozen Angel
In post 1452, MathBlade wrote:FA to be fair, I think converts are unlikely (but still possible), because of my role.
It’s what made me sus of the 6 in the first place.
it can still be a limited skill. if scum factions are limited to even odd night phases, and one or both have way less than 3 scum in them, then they can have a limited convert as an action too
we have no idea about the general power range of scum skills so any estimations at this point can actually harm
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:05 am
by Frozen Angel
In post 1456, Yume wrote:Because you're in tunnel mode and until you're out of it, there is no use talking to you.
You haven't read my posts to determine if I'm in tunnel vision or not.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:05 am
by MathBlade
In post 1456, Yume wrote: In post 1453, MathBlade wrote: In post 1451, Yume wrote: In post 1443, Frozen Angel wrote: In post 1436, Yume wrote:
I didn't read all of them, just the ones about mastina, and as someone who hydraed with her, I know how she plays, and your case is pigswill.
so you read
802 805 810 813 849 and
983 in 2 minutes and decided that my case is pigs will?
If you have no respect for me and my word to even spend time reading it, I can also return the favor and have 0 respect for you
It's true, and here is why: all your points against mastina ignore her character. One, she likes to make long posts. Two, she appears more confident that she actually is. Three, she is busy. You scumread her posts, but ignore the person behind them. That's why your case is bad.
And my case which is almost exclusively person / strategy based is bad because ….
Because you're in tunnel mode and until you're out of it, there is no use talking to you.
So if i agree with you I am tunneling but if I don’t I am not?
I spent hours last night examining her character
And all you did was “well I disagree so you’re wrong”
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:06 am
by Frozen Angel
we have time no need to put her on E1. she has to fully claim though
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:06 am
by MathBlade
In post 1458, Frozen Angel wrote: In post 1452, MathBlade wrote:FA to be fair, I think converts are unlikely (but still possible), because of my role.
It’s what made me sus of the 6 in the first place.
it can still be a limited skill. if scum factions are limited to even odd night phases, and one or both have way less than 3 scum in them, then they can have a limited convert as an action too
we have no idea about the general power range of scum skills so any estimations at this point can actually harm
Fair. I stand corrected.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:07 am
by Yume
In post 1460, MathBlade wrote: In post 1456, Yume wrote: In post 1453, MathBlade wrote: In post 1451, Yume wrote: In post 1443, Frozen Angel wrote: In post 1436, Yume wrote:
I didn't read all of them, just the ones about mastina, and as someone who hydraed with her, I know how she plays, and your case is pigswill.
so you read
802 805 810 813 849 and
983 in 2 minutes and decided that my case is pigs will?
If you have no respect for me and my word to even spend time reading it, I can also return the favor and have 0 respect for you
It's true, and here is why: all your points against mastina ignore her character. One, she likes to make long posts. Two, she appears more confident that she actually is. Three, she is busy. You scumread her posts, but ignore the person behind them. That's why your case is bad.
And my case which is almost exclusively person / strategy based is bad because ….
Because you're in tunnel mode and until you're out of it, there is no use talking to you.
So if i agree with you I am tunneling but if I don’t I am not?
I spent hours last night examining her character
And all you did was “well I disagree so you’re wrong”
You're wrong there because you ignored the parts of the chart that say she is town and went 'well, she is probably scum despite these cause outdated', so...
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:09 am
by MathBlade
In post 1463, Yume wrote: In post 1460, MathBlade wrote: In post 1456, Yume wrote: In post 1453, MathBlade wrote: In post 1451, Yume wrote: In post 1443, Frozen Angel wrote: In post 1436, Yume wrote:
I didn't read all of them, just the ones about mastina, and as someone who hydraed with her, I know how she plays, and your case is pigswill.
so you read
802 805 810 813 849 and
983 in 2 minutes and decided that my case is pigs will?
If you have no respect for me and my word to even spend time reading it, I can also return the favor and have 0 respect for you
It's true, and here is why: all your points against mastina ignore her character. One, she likes to make long posts. Two, she appears more confident that she actually is. Three, she is busy. You scumread her posts, but ignore the person behind them. That's why your case is bad.
And my case which is almost exclusively person / strategy based is bad because ….
Because you're in tunnel mode and until you're out of it, there is no use talking to you.
So if i agree with you I am tunneling but if I don’t I am not?
I spent hours last night examining her character
And all you did was “well I disagree so you’re wrong”
You're wrong there because you ignored the parts of the chart that say she is town and went 'well, she is probably scum despite these cause outdated', so...
You mean D1 = always town = proven false
And the other ones where I cited examples
Yes. I thought about the question and if I couldn’t find an example then I would have changed my mind.
That’s how research works
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:10 am
by MathBlade
But yeah I am kinda agreeing with FA and TBone and Scarf here
Talking with you about town Mastina is pointless
She can put up or we elim her
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:13 am
by Yume
In post 802, Frozen Angel wrote:Mastina using more words doesnt make something less or more logical
neither bolding it
the only thing it does is it makes it like you really want others to feel like you're passionate about something. yet I'm not sure whats there to be even passionate about as you're practically repeating your non existant logics in 200 different forms in back to back posts and act as if you're angry for some reason for posting them?!
who even asked you about my meta in first place that you went all this way to post about it in such fashion?
and your logic/not your mech spec about numbers doesn't justify the full team list thing that you keep posting. if this is from town, its like throwing random names and hoping one would stick yet it seems way more calculated than that.
so vote stays
I am going through your posts here, and this is wrong, because mastina is wordy regardless of alignment, so this is inconclusive when it comes to her alignment.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:15 am
by Frozen Angel
thats just one of the dots in my analysis about her being scum. read the rest.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:18 am
by MathBlade
FA Who do you think is scum (besides Mastina)?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:19 am
by Yume
In post 1464, MathBlade wrote: In post 1463, Yume wrote: In post 1460, MathBlade wrote: In post 1456, Yume wrote: In post 1453, MathBlade wrote: In post 1451, Yume wrote: In post 1443, Frozen Angel wrote: In post 1436, Yume wrote:
I didn't read all of them, just the ones about mastina, and as someone who hydraed with her, I know how she plays, and your case is pigswill.
so you read
802 805 810 813 849 and
983 in 2 minutes and decided that my case is pigs will?
If you have no respect for me and my word to even spend time reading it, I can also return the favor and have 0 respect for you
It's true, and here is why: all your points against mastina ignore her character. One, she likes to make long posts. Two, she appears more confident that she actually is. Three, she is busy. You scumread her posts, but ignore the person behind them. That's why your case is bad.
And my case which is almost exclusively person / strategy based is bad because ….
Because you're in tunnel mode and until you're out of it, there is no use talking to you.
So if i agree with you I am tunneling but if I don’t I am not?
I spent hours last night examining her character
And all you did was “well I disagree so you’re wrong”
You're wrong there because you ignored the parts of the chart that say she is town and went 'well, she is probably scum despite these cause outdated', so...
You mean D1 = always town = proven false
And the other ones where I cited examples
Yes. I thought about the question and if I couldn’t find an example then I would have changed my mind.
That’s how research works
Yeah, but most of your research is based on subjective povs. So mastina had one game where she was limmed on D1 and flipped scum, versus many others where she flipped town on D1. That's not research, that's using games outside the norm to prove your point of view.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:20 am
by Dingle Dangle Scarecrow
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:22 am
by Frozen Angel
professenic but thats completely a separate read than mastina
and a hard to explain one at this moment. I specially hated those posts around the time they votes mastina and before/after that they changed read on my slot without adding anything to game about it that felt inconsistent?
I need more time and energy to iso them and see what I get when I check full picture
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:22 am
by MathBlade
I am saying that it’s not the exclusive “she’s town” that the website makes it out to be. It means continue with the document.
The document also contradicts itself (as I noted) with a does she seen town based on circumstances? Which is the same as does she seem scum? Which reach two different alignments but are the same question.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:22 am
by Yume
In post 805, Frozen Angel wrote: In post 803, Past Present Future wrote:I’m not saying I agree with her reads but I actually think she believes them. I’m saying her recent posts don’t looked fake to me. That scumgame you linked earlier looked extremely obviously fake to me but this looks to me like Pokemon Battles’ Mastina, just the way she’s expressing her thoughts. If you have a Mastina scumgame where she did that, feel free to link it but this looks like town!Mastina to me.
No I actually think she is acting hard to make you think she believes them. there is a huge logic gap between what direction she is pushing and the conclusions she get that she is just filling in between with long repetitive posting
I actually think she is looking for some scum too in middle of those fluff, but I feel like she is more interested in her own status and to act like a frustrated "leader" than to solve the game and I find that just scum motivated
Two, mastina is sometimes illogical, so reading her because she doesn't have logic is also wrong. The fact that you say she is looking for scum means she is town. As scum, she would just lurk and prodge.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:23 am
by MathBlade
But yeah I think you’re town tunnelled Yume. I don’t think you want to hear Mastina scum regardless of your alignment. It’s just going to drag the game down.
Please talk about other reads or try to find another scum.