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it totally looks like you are ignoring me.

Nero Cain - VT
Lil Uzi Vert - VT
Caesar Wills It - VT
Leonshade - VT
MathBlade - Stonehedge
Creature - Alhambara
RadiantCowbells - ??
Vecna - Hagia Sofia
davesaz - Chichen Itza
Alisae - Hailcarnassus
CloudKicker - ???
Gorkington - ???
NoticeMeSenpai - ???
nancy - VT

In post 14521, MathBlade wrote: Those three votes came on very quickly from the end.
So in essence all town wagon.

Scum can be online and watching the vote and each act independently. You're assuming they had to plan a time in advance which is just not true at all. The fact that you're unwilling to consider any of them because they couldn't have orchestrated it in daychat is exactly the reason they could get away with doing it haphazardly. Besides that, if even 1 of the last 3 are scum then you're wrong about the scumteam has to be the 1st 3, it doesn't need to be the 1st 3 or the last but no mixtures. This way of doing VCA is helpful but it is not enough to rule people out.

@Leon & Nero: What Wonders have you tried to build?

@Vecna: Why did you choose to build Hagia Sofia?

none

When I look at the claims, the only one that feels believable is Dave's. Alisae's is too, but the way they've claimed to use the Wonder gives me some doubt.

Vecna's claim makes sense from a personality standpoint but gut tells me he would want a Wonder he is actually going to use.

In post 14575, PeregrineV wrote:

@Dave-

it totally looks like you are ignoring me.

Umm, I'm still reading.

Math's claim doesn't make any sense but it was from when they were in the hydra with Titus...

In post 14582, davesaz wrote:

In post 14575, PeregrineV wrote:

@Dave-

it totally looks like you are ignoring me.

Umm, I'm still reading.

OK

and if the narrative is that scumAlisae isn't confident him doing nothing at all and sheeping fits in perfectly well with that.

Can never tell with RC, fake claiming bastard lol

I'll wait for the others to claim but I don't know, things looking real suspect right now.

In post 14580, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:When I look at the claims, the only one that feels believable is Dave's. Alisae's is too, but the way they've claimed to use the Wonder gives me some doubt.

It is not only believable Alisae's claim has been confirmed by me already.

He's prob scum here and his team is using the "RC is scum, but lets totally trust his read!" to wagon me. Why do you think RC is not concerned at all about that?

Alisae's claim being true=//=town.

It is dumb shit like this that makes you scum.

You can't on one hand say Maybe Alisae got the wonder then on the other hand says maybe he and Math are lying. Alisae is Halicarnassus.

In post 14588, MathBlade wrote:

In post 14580, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:When I look at the claims, the only one that feels believable is Dave's. Alisae's is too, but the way they've claimed to use the Wonder gives me some doubt.

It is not only believable Alisae's claim has been confirmed by me already.

Yes but you're not confirmed, neither is Ali's alignment
Ali could be scum
You could be scum
Both of you could still be scum.

Again, neighboring doesn't make someone town. PyP!

LUV wasn't saying that....

I'm looking at the claims and trying to see if they make sense based on what I know of the players personality.

In post 14583, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Math's claim doesn't make any sense but it was from when they were in the hydra with Titus...

Titus pretty much threw a bitch fit and claimed after I told her it was a bad idea and insisted it would work and tired of being told how stupid I was let her do it. I should have kept arguing I just didn't have it in me.

Possible ways to get no result:

Roleblock or JK me (see note below on JK)
One of my targets is ascetic
One of my targets was JK'd (is this even in the game? I don't know it's just one of the standard roles that can affect mine)
My targeting was redirected to an ascetic.
My targeting was redirected to someone I had already targeted.

Creature could be scum if:
Scum correctly predicted that Creature would be one of the targets and redirected it to town. I consider this to be very unlikely, so unlikely that I'm taking my result as a conftown on Creature.

What's really going to piss me off is if Creature RB'd me. He was acting like he didn't believe my claim.

We don't need docs to claim. Scum could be driving a massclaim to find the docs because they still need that in order to be able to kill me.

In post 14576, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:

Nero Cain - VT

Lil Uzi Vert - VT
Caesar Wills It - VT
[/b]Leonshade - VT[/b]
MathBlade - Stonehedge
Creature - Alhambara
RadiantCowbells - ??
Vecna - Hagia Sofia
davesaz - Chichen Itza
Alisae - Hailcarnassus

CloudKicker - ???

[/b]Gorkington - ???[/b]

NoticeMeSenpai - ???

nancy - VT

The bolded I do not have a good enough grasp on personality wise and I cannot hold them to not attempting to build a Wonder since I haven't attempted to myself.

In post 14596, davesaz wrote:Possible ways to get no result:

Roleblock or JK me (see note below on JK)
One of my targets is ascetic
One of my targets was JK'd (is this even in the game? I don't know it's just one of the standard roles that can affect mine)
My targeting was redirected to an ascetic.
My targeting was redirected to someone I had already targeted.

Creature could be scum if:
Scum correctly predicted that Creature would be one of the targets and redirected it to town. I consider this to be very unlikely, so unlikely that I'm taking my result as a conftown on Creature.

What's really going to piss me off is if Creature RB'd me. He was acting like he didn't believe my claim.

Or just the roleblock that night was picked up and used