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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:20 pm
by Roden
Also lol hi Nora

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:20 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
Just read over that exact day.
Read it with knowledge of me and C&G being town and then read it while pretending are alignments aren't known.
You will realize Butterflies posted that as if they knew me and C&G were TvT and I was legit tracked and so butterflies was confused why I claimed red.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:21 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
legit tracker*

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:21 pm
by Noraa
In post 14645, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 14560, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 14462, butterflies wrote:I understand so why is Drap voting you then?

He claimed he was going to track you but no explanation, just a vote.

^^^^^^
Like this is wolf with TMI.
Right Here.
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:21 pm
by Roden
Oh wait Butter gave final reads in the Mason chat, I'll post those real quick

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:22 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 14647, Roden wrote:
In post 14641, butterflies wrote:
In post 14636, Roden wrote:Real talk, I don't think Drapion is scum here. They fake claimed a result after C&G was already on their way out the door, it wasn't necessary. And I'm confident they just self-hammer to end the day ASAP and cut off info/discussions.
They claimed a track on Pooky but you tracked them to Butter, so how is he town?
It's a joke, sorry

I'm fake claiming a Track on a fake claiming Tracker
I’m real tracker.
I fake claimed my last result, I actually tracked BestBird that night.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:22 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 14654, Roden wrote:Oh wait Butter gave final reads in the Mason chat, I'll post those real quick
Sounds Good!

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:22 pm
by butterflies
Drap is either the most antitown played ever or a gaslighting scumfuck. He clearly is making 0 effort to refute the clear evidence of us!town.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:25 pm
by Noraa
In post 14651, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Just read over that exact day.
Read it with knowledge of me and C&G being town and then read it while pretending are alignments aren't known.
You will realize Butterflies posted that as if they knew me and C&G were TvT and I was legit tracked and so butterflies was confused why I claimed red.
i don't see the TvT tmi

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:27 pm
by butterflies
In post 14655, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 14647, Roden wrote:
In post 14641, butterflies wrote:
In post 14636, Roden wrote:Real talk, I don't think Drapion is scum here. They fake claimed a result after C&G was already on their way out the door, it wasn't necessary. And I'm confident they just self-hammer to end the day ASAP and cut off info/discussions.
They claimed a track on Pooky but you tracked them to Butter, so how is he town?
It's a joke, sorry

I'm fake claiming a Track on a fake claiming Tracker
I’m real tracker.
I fake claimed my last result, I actually tracked BestBird that night.
You tracked BB n9? So why lie about DNA?

Or was it Pooky?

At any rate, we’re 100% flipping town so gtfo with your inane shitpush.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:29 pm
by Roden
Last relevant read was on OTH. The following quote pinged him, he described it as someone who didn't know how to fake a good reason to defend their partners. Also think the role claim is real but doesn't believe it's impossible for scum to have.
In post 13608, Off The Hook wrote:VOTE: johnny

malcolm doesn't seem like he would be scum, why would he keep posting after the wagon keeps coming back to him..? its clear hes just town trying to leave last reads.
if he's scum hes just leaving lots of info for us to find his partners from.
town is sooooo much more likely here.

rad is town too, hes too motivated to be scum IMO.

- :good: -

okay i'll force the use of it tonight HOJHIDFS whenever i suggest using it gamma keeps saying no but ill slide it in so it isn't noticed GIEUORFJ

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:33 pm
by butterflies
In post 14570, butterflies wrote:
In post 14481, butterchurn wrote:
If C&G is town, kill Drapion tomorrow, don't let him talk his way out of it
. We might have to re-assess the POE a bit from there, since we're down one kill. I do somewhat believe C&G because it doesn't make much sense for C&G to be the one to carry out the kill with two scum left and Drapion already claimed that they were going to track there. We obviously still have to kill C&G first, though. Maybe Drapion knew that if he didn't die tonight, he would be outed, and so he might as well take someone with him. Hard to say. It's also possible that the 5th mafia cannot carry out the kill for some reason. They could have some ability that prevents them from killing. Traitor would probably make mafia too weak, so I doubt that would be it.
~Nancyfly
I do not trust Drap to tell the truth about his tracks after he lied about DNA visiting CSF.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:37 pm
by butterflies
Yo its a flea, a very unwell flea whos about to do their second long weekend in 3 weeks and is exausted but still.

Why is drap still alive? Dudes about as charasmatic as a barnacle and ngl the sc vibes here having broken my scumdar.

And thats onky reasomg a page or two.

-Butterflea (i cant believe it not)

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:43 pm
by butterflies
In post 14459, butterflies wrote:
In post 14444, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:did u get a guilty result or what dude?
+1

@Drap
In post 14461, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:
In post 14460, butterflies wrote:
In post 14456, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:
In post 14454, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:To be clear, I'm not against the PoE, but if that's the path that's going to be taken, do it quickly. Force Drapion to state their target and result clearly unambiguously and then do it.
~Cytosine
EBWOP
~Cytosine
So your saying it’s impossible Drap tracked you to CSF?
Obviously.
Because we can't target anybody.
-Guanine
In post 14462, butterflies wrote:I understand so why is Drap voting you then?

He claimed he was going to track you but no explanation, just a vote.
This is what Drap is claiming tmi. I don’t think the entirety of all of my brain synapses turning to dust makes this make sense. Perhaps it would after I get a lobotomy?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:54 pm
by Roden
Let's assume the absolute worst happens today, we hammer Drap and they flip town. What happens tomorrow?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:10 pm
by butterflies
In post 14664, Roden wrote:Let's assume the absolute worst happens today, we hammer Drap and they flip town. What happens tomorrow?
Who do you think are scum? But why does town lie about their track? And did you read my post about Math shading Galron pretty much immediately after he replaced in. It just seemed to come out of nowhere, so initially when Drap claimed tracker, I thought Math was somehow informed but then he would have continued to push Drap in their hood instead of us.

Idk. I know we’re town, strongly believe Noraa is as well: Toog 2nd post, typical Taly townplay, antipartnery Math/Taly interactions + this reads like obvtown!Noraa as well here.

I still think OtH is town. Marci sounds different here than in HDP and Inviticus but similar to OMB and Gamma doesn’t seems to have any kind of agenda.

So idk. I also think Mislim is town based off of interactions in our pt as well as Bella jumping on us for Tirus voting Klick is hella weird if that slot is scum.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:14 pm
by butterflies
In post 2306, MathBlade wrote:That’s…a thing. FoS on Galron’s replacement

When Galron is quiet it’s usually a scum tell for him and he’s in the bottom half of post count.

I will ISO him later and see if it is all naked or if it has content.

If his ISO has content it’s not a scum lock but if no content Yeet please.

I’d normally vote Galron here but I have a rule of letting people play first.
In post 2311, MathBlade wrote:Okay Galron has content so NAI for that slot
In post 2313, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1763, Corwinoid wrote:It concerns me, though, that Frog conveniently forgot about mala who's been both low activity and low content when she is posting. It annoyed the hell out of me that people were up my ass for dealing with life issues, when mala's getting a pass with posts like
In post 758, Malakittens wrote:why is there 31 pages
-.-
Actually that he's looking at every *other* low activity player is bothersome.

I like this post a lot. Was this ever explained?
Like Idk if this means anything but Math hardpushes Galron only to call him nia, then totally drops that and focuses on town!Mala.

Like why? Why does scum!Math do this if Galron is town?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:52 pm
by butterflies
In post 1442, Corwinoid wrote:If y'all insist for the damn spreadsheet... (honest question, can you post a spreadsheet?)

Town:
Corwinoid

Rad
Cytosine and Guanine (Ircher and RH9)

--
JohnnyFarrar
T-Bone
--

Null

Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)

Taly Toogeloo
PookyTheMagicalBear
MalcolmTucker

Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
Galron
Cephrir
Dwlee99

Klick
Dunnstral
Lukewarm

PenguinPower
Bellaphant


--
BlueBloodedToffee
The toad

Frogsterking
Enchant
Bell
--
Scum
Malakittens

Annoying me on a personal level for pushing me do this
Cat Scratch Fever humaneatingmonkey

Maybe a comparison of flipped scum readslists can tell us something?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:01 pm
by butterflies
In post 2401, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2373, Taly wrote:
In post 2328, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 2289, Taly wrote:im curious, i came in with several slots cautious or scumreading me but you've taken to conversation very well, why?
Is this a question for me?
si amigo por favor
In post 2329, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:@Taly
In post 2022, Taly wrote:nah im not feeling the johnny scumreads, largely because of how constructively they're discussing reads with me and mindmelding on a few takes so far. since the game is still relatively fresh it seems to be pure to me.
About your Johnny read, I found this and the tail end of

I don't know if pooky town is a hot take. Even with some people here clearly wary of their scumgame, they're still in the top 5 townreads

I saw the PoE stuff, and I was kind of interested to see where he landed with that. But I think you may be overremembering how much discussion you had with them? I didn't find that much beyond asking you to explain some TRs and crossing names off the list.

Looking at their recent posts, I like though I don't agree with it. Penguin is kind of an easy mislim when town, so I could see scum coming in to push them.

---

About Galron, it seems to be mostly a metaread and a TvT interaction with Rad. If you could quote some posts where they've done something that is outside their scumrange, that'd be helpful. My general feeling about their posting is in - another example is the "Challenge me" post that was just ??? random and other tonal stuff like that, and their thought process feels opaque to me.
my approach to joining this game was pretty passive, to have someone actively think of a mutual solve when it was already expressed that many people, including myself, had difficulty sorting a definite scumread, seemed much more likely town in my eyes. nothing in
johnny's
post has overtly signaled to me that he's leading me to any specific conclusion that i must follow, and him thanking me for my participation felt sincere.

so no, my read on
johnny
isn't based on how much we have discussed reads, it's how reads were discussed.

i agree with
penguin
, if memory serves, ive mislimmed them before so im good with taking more time to sort the slot. nothing ive skimmed has caught my attention.

~


oof wasn't prepared for
galron
rep

Math
, you'll have to flesh out why
galron's
rep warrants an FOS. feels NAI off principle since there was no indication a rep-out would occur

@Bella will get to you, something IRL caught my attention
It felt like Galron replaced out due to fearing I would FoS them and they’d be sunk.

When I calmed down that was unlikely.[/size]
Again, really weird post on Galron. It’s weird to me because Math’s push on Galron is really strange.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:14 pm
by butterflies
In post 599, Bellaphant wrote:VOTE: galron
In post 1117, Bellaphant wrote:VOTE: bbt

I actually read some of ktane as it was happening, not enough to follow all the bomb stuff, enough to grab some town reads.
More weird Galron votes by scum. This time, scum!Bella briefly votes Galron than pivots to town!BBT.

The VC att only has town!toad being the only other vote on that slot.

Also, I played with scum!Galron under an alt and they completely fooled me in that, so Math claiming content for Galron is town indicative isn’t true.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:31 pm
by butterflies
In post 1453, Bellaphant wrote:
Town
Pooky
Rad
Cat
Enchant
Frog
Luke



Gap
Klick
Dancing puppets
Ceph
Roden
Bell

Johnny
Taly

Scum
Bbt

Galron
Dunn
Toad

Pp


Null
Tbone
Mala

Oof the hook
Cytosine and Guanine

Malcolm
Corwin

Dwlee
OtH looks to be likely town from this, since it would seem unlikely that Bella would another buddy in the same grouping.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:40 pm
by butterflies
So I know we’re town, Roden confitown due to Butter flip, strongly tr Noraaa/Yeet/Taly/Toog slot. Bella readslist seems so spew OtH town. Really think Mislim is as well.

My current solve is Drap/Johnny

If that’s somehow wrong, then idk.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 1:48 am
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 14671, butterflies wrote:So I know we’re town, Roden confitown due to Butter flip, strongly tr Noraaa/Yeet/Taly/Toog slot. Bella readslist seems so spew OtH town. Really think Mislim is as well.

My current solve is Drap/Johnny

If that’s somehow wrong, then idk.
It’s funny you actually think that would be the team.
Don’t worry once I die, Johnny is known town and your obvious wolf.
TYVM have a nice day.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 1:49 am
by ProfessorDrapion
Again.
Never Execute Johnny and also don’t execute ML Bait and BB.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 1:51 am
by ProfessorDrapion
I haven’t been wrong on execution except last two days.