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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 11:27 am

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Meh, I did suspect Budja of being scum before, but then Ort said he was town, and I believed him. Seemed like everyone believed Ort was the cop for a while? I'm not the only one who has done nothing. I originally thought SG and Tajo were scum together also. But that's obviously wrong. .-. Since Ort wasn't really the cop then I think Budja is most likely scum out of everyone that is alive.
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 11:53 am

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I did minorly suspect Ort DGB, I did mention the large numbers of vanilla dieing suggest no PR's (I think I was the only one too) although I quickly shrugged that off as silly.

I think DGB is scum, that push on me is at least highly hypocritical regardless. I have gut-suspicions on Max and Brandi.

I don't believe I have done anything particularly scummy. I can't explain why Ort got me off the hook yesterday, but why would Ort reveal himself so obviously if I was scum with me linked like this to him.
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 11:53 am

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I wish I had been faster at that quick draw on D6. [Then again, that would have required me to be awake at 3am...] Am I the only one who would have been more then happy with an ort lynch at any time? Then again, vocally trying to lynch the cop would have got me nowhere. Argh. I should have hammered Budja on D5.

@Everyone: Who do you think is scum
other
then Budja? And if you don't think Budja who is scum, who do you think the remaining scum are?

But nice attempt at a bus, Budja, though.
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 11:54 am

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ShadowGirl wrote:Why did you think I was scum?
It doesn't really matter... You're obvtown now, ortolan didn't infect his buddy. So at least now we have a shot at hitting scum. And if we hit scum, the scum will infect a townie...

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We're 6. If SG hits scum, then we'll be 5. Say, 2 or 3 scum? If the game started with 3 scum, then we have chance, otherwise, we'd lose even if SG hits scum... in which case the mod would have stopped the game. So if my calculations are correct, this game started with 3 scum, and with ortolan gone, there should be 2 left. Do I have this right?

Now, who did ortolan "clear?'"
BSG
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Only 4 players? Did I miss one? I'm not seeing BSG or hohum in the OP. Was ortolan clearing the dead by any chance?
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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 11:58 am

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Budja wrote:I did minorly suspect Ort DGB, I did mention the large numbers of vanilla dieing suggest no PR's (I think I was the only one too) although I quickly shrugged that off as silly.
Mmmmm... would you be able to find that post? It's probably faster if you do it.
Budja wrote:I think DGB is scum, that push on me is at least highly hypocritical regardless. I have gut-suspicions on Max and Brandi.
I started with you, but it doesn't mean that you're my top suspect. I'm still trying to get a grasp of the game.
Budja wrote:I don't believe I have done anything particularly scummy. I can't explain why Ort got me off the hook yesterday, but why would Ort reveal himself so obviously if I was scum with me linked like this to him.
Yes, its WIFOM, but its the best I've got here.
That's a fair point, even if WIFOMy, because he had to have known that his days were numbered as the number of vanilla reveals and the lack of PR claims kept adding nails to his coffin.
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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 11:59 am

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Tell me when the game's over then.

Should be two left, but hey, K-Scope could have been nice and only made it a two scum group. ;]

BSG > WhereIsTony
hohum > Zazie

Just those four.
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:04 pm

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Eh, I wouldn't bus so clumsily. I am glad that my gut on ort was correct anyway.

I believe that 3 scum are left, why else would ort have given himself away.

@DGB,

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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:05 pm

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Messed up tags :P.
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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:06 pm

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I just ran paper/pen simulations.

If you infect a townie, and the townie infects scum, we have 50-50 chance of winning
If you infect scum, and the scum infects a townie, from that point onward we have a 75% chance of winning.
If you infect a townie, and the townie infects a townie, only then do we lose.

So even assuming totally random choices, we're still ahead of the game.
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:07 pm

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Budja wrote: I think DGB is scum, that push on me is at least highly hypocritical regardless. I have gut-suspicions on Max and Brandi.
Push on you? Which post? And thanks for naming the two people I narrowed to be possible scum. Got anything deeper then that, after seven days?
I don't believe I have done anything particularly scummy. I can't explain why Ort got me off the hook yesterday, but why would Ort reveal himself so obviously if I was scum with me linked like this to him.
Yes, its WIFOM, but its the best I've got here.
Because getting you off one more day is better then letting you die, seeing as you've got one more buddy to pull you to a win.
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:09 pm

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Budja wrote:I believe that 3 scum are left, why else would ort have given himself away.
Did I make a mistake? If 3 scums are left, we have lost, no? If the game is still on, there must be 2 scum.

As to why ort gave himself away... well... the game is obv mountainous. If he hadn't been so quick on the trigger in the one-day-one-post "Bad Idea Mafia" we would have shot him down in short order.
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:10 pm

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Ort did go on about being naive for a while, trying to push me again.
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Budja wrote:I did doubt him, but clearing me yesterday seemed unlikely if he was scum. I didn't see you (or anyone else) doubting ort that much at all.
Even after 11 vanilla townies were killed off?
Implies I am scum as I didn't suspect ort, in fact I was the only one who did at all yesterday. Misinterpreting the facts = suss.
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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:10 pm

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Budja wrote: I believe that 3 scum are left, why else would ort have given himself away.
So that makes everyone but me and you scum, right? :P
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:11 pm

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Why would we have shot ort? Who really suspected him?
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:13 pm

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SG wrote: So that makes everyone but me and you scum, right? Razz
Actually that sounds very unlikely now I think about it.
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:13 pm

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Budja wrote:Why would we have shot ort? Who really suspected him?
I would have shot him. I'm happy I at least got to hang him. <3

Yeah, but ort was trying to cover all his bases... it probably makes more sense for you to both be scum since he brought that up. If you got lynched and turned up scum, he'd have to be naive, no?
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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:18 pm

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Budja wrote:Eh, I wouldn't bus so clumsily. I am glad that my gut on ort was correct anyway.
So... you wouldn't have voted the obv scum?

Do you have any suspicions that aren't based on gut?
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:21 pm

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Who was obv scum then?

My suspicions of the remaining players are mainly gut-based, I never did pay enough attention to this game.
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:21 pm

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Budja wrote:Why would we have shot ort? Who really suspected him?
Because this is what we would have woken up to:

Ironturkey, townie, lynched day 1
Slicey, townie, lynched day 1
Raging Rabbit, townie, nightkilled night 1
Santos, townie, lynched day 2
populartajo, a townie, nightkilled night 2
WhereIsTony, a townie, died during day 3
Lawrencelot, a townie, killed during night 3
julienvonwolfe, a townie, exploded during day 4
Narsis, a townie, exploded during day 4
killa seven, a townie, lynched day 5
raider8169, a townie, killed during Night 5
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:22 pm

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ShadowGirl wrote:Yeah, but ort was trying to cover all his bases... it probably makes more sense for you to both be scum since he brought that up. If you got lynched and turned up scum, he'd have to be naive, no?
That's a very good point, actually, I hadn't thought of that angle. Ortolan might have been trying to get out of the corner he'd painted himself in by hinting at naivete.
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:26 pm

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Budja wrote:Who was obv scum then?

My suspicions of the remaining players are mainly gut-based, I never did pay enough attention to this game.
Um. Ort. Obviously.

... Well, that's not good.

@DGB: Psh, nobody believes me when I say it a couple days ago, but now that I'm dead I've been converted into some sort of wise man. 8D

Considering how close Budja was to being lynched on and off that day, it would have looked really bad not to mention naivete. After all, he couldn't be insane since BSG[Tony] was already dead. Well, worse if he got lynched and then made up the theory that maybe his sanity wasn't right.
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:33 pm

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ShadowGirl wrote:Considering how close Budja was to being lynched on and off that day, it would have looked really bad not to mention naivete. After all, he couldn't be insane since BSG[Tony] was already dead. Well, worse if he got lynched and then made up the theory that maybe his sanity wasn't right.
Are you saying that ortolan started bringing up naivete when Budja was about to be lynched? How many votes did Budja have?
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:42 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
ShadowGirl wrote:Considering how close Budja was to being lynched on and off that day, it would have looked really bad not to mention naivete. After all, he couldn't be insane since BSG[Tony] was already dead. Well, worse if he got lynched and then made up the theory that maybe his sanity wasn't right.
Are you saying that ortolan started bringing up naivete when Budja was about to be lynched? How many votes did Budja have?
Mmhm, when he was at L-2. I find the 'Thanks Ort.' comical. :lol:

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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:43 pm

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It would be awful scum play, if I was scum :roll:.
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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:46 pm

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Which would be?
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