shmugen wrote:I don't think blaster shots show up for watches. Think, for a moment, what that could do to a game. Watcher watches obvious blaster target night 1, has the majority of townies confirmed to him. PoE wins the game for town.
hmm okay.
↑4nxi3ty wrote:
two attempts at derailing a nexus wagon:
↑Shadow Dancer wrote:OK, I admit that I suck... But obviously Slan becoming conftown screwed up my main scum read and the big post I was preparing to further explain that read... so... I guess the good thing is that he's scum's problem now...
↑Slandaar wrote:Shmugen or Nexus should really be the lynch but there isnt much point voting Nexus when its a wagon noone wants
Never felt malees slot is town and dont see the point voting PV more interesting for VCA later
PV might be scum but as said the voters look bad -> BB/cow/shmu? do not want. Magna also liked that wagon so yeah, I dont think its great.
Your reason to not follow a waggon is because you "do not like" other people on that waggon? On D1? With no flips at all? This is bad and anti-town.
↑Shadow Dancer wrote:I wouldn't shed a tear for Nexus, but lynching him is pretty much just a lurker lynch and I don't think that's optimal play after an already way to stretched out D1...
this is still very much valid imo
unvote, vote: Nexus
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 1:52 pm
by DeathNote
~Prodding you inactive losers.~
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 2:43 pm
by LordChronos
Working on some vote count analysis from D1 and D2. It's kind of tedious with this many people.
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:27 pm
by Nero Cain
We've already had a VCA by Slan. How will yours be different?
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 5:47 pm
by hasdgfas
↑Nero Cain wrote:We've already had a VCA by Slan. How will yours be different?
PS, I'm gonna drop my slip attack on Anxiety, not saying that he's town, but saying that I'm gonna concede that it was voided by the fact that it's multiball. That being said I need to take a re-read and see how needs some scrutiny.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:11 am
by Shmugen
The longer this day goes, the happier I am with my Briz vote.
The blaster mechanic hasn't been doing us a lot of good thusfar. Without a better idea of scumteam numbers it will be difficult to nail it down but we should draw a line where I get blastered so I'm not around for an endgame speedlynch.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:16 am
by WrathChild
↑Shmugen wrote:The longer this day goes, the happier I am with my Briz vote.
The blaster mechanic hasn't been doing us a lot of good thusfar. Without a better idea of scumteam numbers it will be difficult to nail it down but we should draw a line where I get blastered so I'm not around for an endgame speedlynch.
I think with MoI gone the blaster mechanics may work out differently. I need to go back and check, but I seem to recall that there is a minimum number of shots for a kill and if they aren't all concentrated in one place, like they were with MoI, we may even miss an occasional blaster kill due to a spread consensus.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:21 am
by Shmugen
This is something that worries me and almost makes me want to be blastered sooner rather than later. Should scum have the option of blaster shots, they could skew the results. 3 is the minimum number of blaster shots required, if I recall correctly, though if we manage to pull this closer to endgame with less scum I could see DeathNote moving that number down.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:36 am
by hasdgfas
↑Shmugen wrote:This is something that worries me and almost makes me want to be blastered sooner rather than later. Should scum have the option of blaster shots, they could skew the results. 3 is the minimum number of blaster shots required, if I recall correctly, though if we manage to pull this closer to endgame with less scum I could see DeathNote moving that number down.
I don't agree that he'll move it down, because my shot counts as 2. It's completely imbalanced if I can guarantee a blaster shot.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:55 am
by Shmugen
Like I said, I could see it, but that's all hypotheticals and don't change any game plans.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 8:30 am
by Nero Cain
↑WrathChild wrote: I'm gonna concede that it was voided by the fact that it's multiball.
As I told Shumgen, 4nx could still be scum and make that same statement.
I'm unsure of the composition of my wagon. Brizingre's ISO doesn't seem town.
So, that would be a no, you don't have any reason for your change of mind. Prevaricating remarks about "his ISO doesn't seem town" do not constitute a reason.
Unvote; Vote: BBmolla
Also, your "wagon" consists of a grand total of two people besides you.
So, we have 4 confirmed town off the main wagons.
2 People are not voting here, Iece and Drs slot (I think)
Therefore 6 confirmed town were not on the main wagons here. Only person not conf town who wasnt on a main wagon is kdub.
These wagons are full of scumbags
Riding me for as long as they've had the ability to vote
- WrathChild, BBmolla, hasdgfas, brinzingre1, splitfarvle, Shadow Dancer
Best to compare their overall contribution as a ratio of time spent on me. Not just vote, but total discussion time. Out of 20 players, I should be 7% of the discussion, approximately. Even if each player narrows focus to only 5 others, I should be ~20% of the discussion. If I am 50% or more of their post totals, chances are they are scum who are tunneling so they don't have to actually scumhunt.
PV's analysis is pretty much what I have shown. Take out split, you have WC/BB/Hascow/Briz/SD(scum)
WC still on Magna
Kdub still on BB
Briz still on Nexus
Cow still on BB
Andrius MIA
Hascow/BB/Briz/Andrius(sean)/Kdub/WC
Worst offenders by a mile;
Briz/Hascow/Sean
Lynch these 3
I dont understand. How does this make them scum?
You may think this is some weird way to scumhunt, but think about the lines the scum have taken, they are not looking for lynches early on, they have dragged days out, Magna lynch COULD have happened if scum wanted it, on day 1 wagons never got close to L-1 before deadline, why? scum votes were spread on the main wagons and not moving. Case in point Ooba on WC, SD on me. We know scum are sitting on their votes, so we lynch the people sitting on their votes.
Briz
Hascow
Sean
Pick one. Vote them.
Hm... so you think that I'm scum because I tried to draw out the day by sticking to my vote?
What would be the scum motivation in trying to drag out the day, anyway?
I'd call it being consistent with my reads.
On D1, I was hardly trying to drag out the day, Peregrine was the leading wagon most of the time.
And the post that you quoted for him, it says that they are likely to be scum if 'He is 50% more of their post totals'. Read my posts before and after voting him, he cropped up way less then the 50%.
And during the three VCs you showed on D2, I was basically lurking the whole way through/apologising for my inactivity. Read my posts in that time, I never said anything game related, let alone changed my vote.
I'm unsure of the composition of my wagon. Brizingre's ISO doesn't seem town.
So, that would be a no, you don't have any reason for your change of mind. Prevaricating remarks about "his ISO doesn't seem town" do not constitute a reason.
Unvote; Vote: BBmolla
Also, your "wagon" consists of a grand total of two people besides you.
*shrug*
At least lynching me will move this game along.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:18 pm
by Slandaar
lynch briz/cow/sean
dont care which
Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:39 am
by 4nxi3ty
the point I brought up against nexus is solid imo, why is it being ignored?
this is the second day I tried to get discussion going about association tells. Is there a good reason the scumflips aren't getting any attention?
Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:55 am
by Nero Cain
↑4nxi3ty wrote:the point I brought up against nexus is solid imo, why is it being ignored?
this is the second day I tried to get discussion going about association tells. Is there a good reason the scumflips aren't getting any attention?
oh I'm just being hard headed. Shmugen has said so many stupid/derpy things that I have a very hard time beliving he's town. Ditto for Hascows lack of scumhunting. WC is still scum but I dunno why he's not lynched yet. And BB needs to hang me thinks. So maybe I'm wrong about those four. *shrugz*
but 4nx is right here so if there's support I'll switch over.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:40 am
by Seanald
Vote: Briz
you try to hard briz and your fucking annoying lollololol