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Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:30 am
by Majiffy
In post 1470, Human Destroyer wrote:Right...and do you profess to be able to tell if he was actually scum instead of town?
No, I have Mollie for that.
In post 1470, Human Destroyer wrote:The more common town reads get lynched, the more confusion there is among the remaining players.
Why would there be confusion, unless you flipped scum? ScumNacho would get powerlynched the next day phase.
In post 1472, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1470, Human Destroyer wrote:The more common town reads get lynched, the more confusion there is among the remaining players.
This is a giant pile of bullshit.
I agree. And I think you probably see the same thing I do.

Majiffy [3/5] - fferyllt, buldermar, orcinus_theoriginal
Mac [1/5] - Minimal
buldermar [1/5] - Majiffy
Nachomamma8 [1/5] - Human Destroyer
Human Destroyer [1/5] - Nachomamma8

Abstained (Not Voting): pirate mollie, Mac

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:31 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 1474, Human Destroyer wrote:you were extremely unsure of the only scumread you had
Not really? I thought Mac was scum but wasn't 100%, just figured I might test your claim since it was obviously bullshit. We've gone through this before.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:39 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 1475, Majiffy wrote:I agree. And I think you probably see the same thing I do.
Apparently not because you're not voting him :(

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:44 am
by Human Destroyer
In post 1475, Majiffy wrote:Why would there be confusion, unless you flipped scum? ScumNacho would get powerlynched the next day phase.
Considering the playerbase? Not as much of a given as you'd think.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:45 am
by Human Destroyer
In post 1476, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1474, Human Destroyer wrote:you were extremely unsure of the only scumread you had
Not really? I thought Mac was scum but wasn't 100%, just figured I might test your claim since it was obviously bullshit. We've gone through this before.
No you clearly stated you were pretty unsure about Mac when you decided to call him town.
I'm interested as to why my claim makes Mac town though. Tell me how.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:46 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 1479, Human Destroyer wrote:No you clearly stated you were pretty unsure about Mac when you decided to call him town.
I'm interested as to why my claim makes Mac town though. Tell me how.
Wait wait wait. I'll draw you a picture.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:47 am
by Human Destroyer
In post 1475, Majiffy wrote:No, I have Mollie for that
So you're basically admitting I shouldn't bother to pay attention to your Nacho read since you can't read him as scum.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:48 am
by Majiffy
In post 1477, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1475, Majiffy wrote:I agree. And I think you probably see the same thing I do.
Apparently not because you're not voting him :(
I'm still holding out hope for a last-minute buldermar quickwagon.
In post 1478, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 1475, Majiffy wrote:Why would there be confusion, unless you flipped scum? ScumNacho would get powerlynched the next day phase.
Considering the playerbase? Not as much of a given as you'd think.
Uhh... Yeah, no this is a bullshit argument.
In post 1481, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 1475, Majiffy wrote:No, I have Mollie for that
So you're basically admitting I shouldn't bother to pay attention to your Nacho read since you can't read him as scum.
I can theoretically read him as scum by way of "not-town Nacho" but I don't know his scumtells like Mollie does.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:52 am
by Human Destroyer
In post 1482, Majiffy wrote:
In post 1478, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 1475, Majiffy wrote:Why would there be confusion, unless you flipped scum? ScumNacho would get powerlynched the next day phase.
Considering the playerbase? Not as much of a given as you'd think.
Uhh... Yeah, no this is a bullshit argument.
Not really.
And even if it wasn't, even if Nacho was lynched...where to go from there? You now have a dead townie who was supposed to be unkillable and one dead scum, probably with one scum left, likely with the two assassins gone...what then?
In post 1482, Majiffy wrote:
In post 1481, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 1475, Majiffy wrote:No, I have Mollie for that
So you're basically admitting I shouldn't bother to pay attention to your Nacho read since you can't read him as scum.
I can
theoretically
read him as scum by way of "not-town Nacho" but I don't know his scumtells like Mollie does.
Majiffy used Denial!
It had no effect on HD...

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:53 am
by Majiffy
HD I am going to vote you if you don't vote Buldermar.

Discuss.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:54 am
by Majiffy
In post 1483, Human Destroyer wrote:Not really.
And even if it wasn't, even if Nacho was lynched...where to go from there? You now have a dead townie who was supposed to be unkillable and one dead scum, probably with one scum left, likely with the two assassins gone...what then?
Then you do what you do in every other mafia game. I'll give you a hint: it starts with an S, and it ends with a T.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:57 am
by Human Destroyer
In post 1484, Majiffy wrote:HD I am going to vote you if you don't vote Buldermar.

Discuss.
Don't hold your breath.
In post 1485, Majiffy wrote:
In post 1483, Human Destroyer wrote:Not really.
And even if it wasn't, even if Nacho was lynched...where to go from there? You now have a dead townie who was supposed to be unkillable and one dead scum, probably with one scum left, likely with the two assassins gone...what then?
Then you do what you do in every other mafia game. I'll give you a hint: it starts with an S, and it ends with a T.
Swimsuit (competition).

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:58 am
by pirate mollie
In post 1402, Nachomamma8 wrote:raven and mollie getting the indy roles that were supposed to kill each other in a game called poetic justice deserves a shout out though
I KNOW!!!!! THE IRONY!!!

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:58 am
by fferyllt
@Majiffy I've been able to read Nacho's killer tells very quickly elsewhere. I didn't catch onto him right away in the amnesiac game. He's not playing against a backdrop of players whose games I know well, and that seriously increases the number of moving parts I have to figure out.

I'm reluctantly reading him leaning town atm.

UNVOTE: Majiffy Buldermar is going to call me names now.

I will not vote buldermar or orcinus today.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:59 am
by Human Destroyer
Yeah scumhunting would work but with both assassins gone and if my math is correct it's probably LYLO at that point so have fun with that!

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:00 am
by Majiffy
VOTE: HD

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:04 am
by Nachomamma8
I want to fly
Can you take me far away?
Give me a star to reach for
Tell me what it takes
And I'll go so high
I'll go so high
My feet won't touch the ground
I stitch my wings
And pull the strings
I bought these dreams
That all fall down

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:15 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 1479, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 1476, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1474, Human Destroyer wrote:you were extremely unsure of the only scumread you had
Not really? I thought Mac was scum but wasn't 100%, just figured I might test your claim since it was obviously bullshit. We've gone through this before.
No you clearly stated you were pretty unsure about Mac when you decided to call him town.
I'm interested as to why my claim makes Mac town though. Tell me how.
That didn't work.
Anywho, 1. Your claim didn't make Mac town. Mac's response was very town. 2. You being SK (likely) means that there are no scum left once you're dead.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:17 am
by buldermar
In post 1419, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 309, Mac wrote:I'm not looking for obvscumtells, but you said he's obvscum and I'm saying I don't see it. What's making him obvscum?
Yes, but Mac saw obvscum and then was like "oh, I don't see obvscumtells so I'm going to ignore the shit out of buldermar now".
Or maybe Mac just realized that orcs case on me was total crap. Like ff did. And mollie now. And now.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:17 am
by buldermar
^^ and you rather.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:18 am
by Minimal
Why is Mac town?

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:18 am
by buldermar
In post 1425, fferyllt wrote:IOW if I didn't have DCL down as scummy-as-fuck I would have a tentative town read on Nacho already. :/
Why?

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:19 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 1495, Minimal wrote:Why is Mac town?
Because his responses were town. Talk about why you're not voting HD before asking me to expound on that, please & thank you.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:22 am
by buldermar
In post 1442, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Unvote, Vote: Human Destroyer
Nacho, I'm p-sure HD is town.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:22 am
by Nachomamma8
Why.