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In post 1472, Toogeloo wrote:I don't see how someone who's town's reads can change so drastically back and forth over a couple posts. I mean he literally goes Elli is scum to Elli is town in the same post, then back to Elli is possible scum again. I'm assuming Nacho doesn't have short term amnesia, so this looks really bad imo.

Insomnia more like. He can explain his thought process when he's around again.

Thor, I've gone over your list of lynchables, and I'm kinda shocked to say that I don't agree with a single person on that list, given I'm not scum-reading you. Nacho and I thought that your interaction with Majiffy looked genuine and are tentatively town-reading you on that basis.

Yes yes, Thor's reads list sucks, we can lynch him

It's so inherently devoid of any scumhunting and hipster

MattP, thoughts on my argument towards sangres?

silence noted...

In post 1479, Toogeloo wrote:silence noted...

Yes, note the fact that I'm at work and running a participant

Jot that down in your big ol blues clues notebook

least you coulda done was answer the question Mr. Snarkypants.

10/10

I will when I have a break though

In post 1473, MattP wrote:I don't like your line of questioning because I don't believe you really think it's a useful line of questioning.

People have accused me of that multiple times when I've been town.
I've even explained the concept behind my questioning before, it's really quite simple. I look for the logic behind actions - oh, hey, look, that's what you're whining that I'm doing. How odd it is to look for the logic behind actions, certainly that cannot be taken as looking for motivations and scumhunting!

In post 1473, MattP wrote:I think you're trying to lead me by the leash and make me subservient to you by making me feel like I have something to prove to you.

This sounds kinky and weird.
If I was going to do it I'd at least pick a cuter player to do it to.

In post 1473, MattP wrote:It's like you're trying to shut me up and trying to prevent me from having any sort of leadership role by calling me scum and keeping me absorbed in trying to please you with roundabout questioning.

Or I'm reacting to your leadership by demanding logic from someone who wants a leadership role.

In post 1473, MattP wrote:you JUST SO HAPPEN to have every single powerful player in the game as a scum read and have tried getting every single player that has power to look bad.

I have Sangres and Amrun as town, or at least 'not scum' currently. Oh, hey, look, power players who use logic.
Also, seriously, you're saying my scum plan is, what, call all the potent players scum and...what? Yes, because that will assuredly not put me at lynch risk.

In post 1473, MattP wrote:See? You're trying to make me explain myself

YOU'VE FIGURED OUT MAH SCUM PLAN!

In post 1473, MattP wrote:Oh the joy of confirmable roles!

Confirm yourself then - then I'll go away. I could work with that.
Or, y'know, just answer what my logical fallacy was - y'know, the one you claim exists and that I claim doesn't. You could just show that I'm a liar and weaken me and strengthen yourself all in one fell swoop - it would also help you get others to lynch me.

In post 1475, sangres wrote:Thor, I've gone over your list of lynchables, and I'm kinda shocked to say that I don't agree with a single person on that list, given I'm not scum-reading you. Nacho and I thought that your interaction with Majiffy looked genuine and are tentatively town-reading you on that basis.

You clearly agree with some of my reads, as you've now decided to not lynch Pitoli, something I said shouldn't be done yesterday.
As for the rest...well, if you have all of those players as town, I'd love to get a quick bullet point list of 'why' for each.

Heck, let's start with Pere - the guy who hasn't posted yet. Why do you have a town read on him and disagree with me being willing to lynch him?

I've decided Thor is probably town, though I disagree with him quite a bit.

RedCoyote, please don't replace out. :'( Things will thin out soon enough.

In post 1487, Amrun wrote:I've decided Thor is probably town, though I disagree with him quite a bit.

That feels to be the story of this game - everyone disagrees with me.
I just got told it wasn't legit to want to lynch Pere.
It isn't legit to request someone explain themselves.
That I'm uncool for advancing policy lynches even though I never did.
And that it is beyond ridiculous that I want to advance a wagon on a player no one can even describe why they're town reading him.

I sort of hate you all.

I love you too.

I love everything

<3

In post 1490, MattP wrote:I love everything

You also said my read list was bad.
Why do you think we shouldn't lynch Pere?

Lynching someone who hasn't posted is probably a bad plan. Maybe he's scum, maybe he's not, but a PoE lynch on day 2 is not the best plan.

In post 1492, Thor665 wrote:

In post 1490, MattP wrote:I love everything

You also said my read list was bad.
Why do you think we shouldn't lynch Pere?

I said your reads list was bad, not that everything in it from head to toe was bad

I don't have a read on PV. I'll be glad to look him over later today

Pedit: Oh he hasn't posted lolol

In post 1486, Thor665 wrote:

In post 1475, sangres wrote:Thor, I've gone over your list of lynchables, and I'm kinda shocked to say that I don't agree with a single person on that list, given I'm not scum-reading you. Nacho and I thought that your interaction with Majiffy looked genuine and are tentatively town-reading you on that basis.

You clearly agree with some of my reads, as you've now decided to not lynch Pitoli, something I said shouldn't be done yesterday.
As for the rest...well, if you have all of those players as town, I'd love to get a quick bullet point list of 'why' for each.

Heck, let's start with Pere - the guy who hasn't posted yet. Why do you have a town read on him and disagree with me being willing to lynch him?

I've decided to wait and see what Pitoli's replacement does with the slot.

I don't have Peregrine as town. Maybe it's partly a difference in where we draw the "willing to lynch" line and partly a reads disagreement.

I really see no need to unvote pitoli. A replacement doesn't erase the scummy things pitoli did.

In post 1493, Amrun wrote:Lynching someone who hasn't posted is probably a bad plan. Maybe he's scum, maybe he's not, but a PoE lynch on day 2 is not the best plan.

Which is probably why I'm not advocating his immediate lynch - but I'm certainly open to the idea of lynching him and don't have a town read on him, and people are suggesting that is wack.
Do you agree or disagree with that?

In post 1495, sangres wrote:I don't have Peregrine as town. Maybe it's partly a difference in where we draw the "willing to lynch" line and partly a reads disagreement.

Whut?

You're either willing to lynch, or not willing to lynch - are you not willing to lynch PV?
If there's a third category in there, clue me in to it, but I feel a 'willing to lynch' list is kind of an either/or sort of deal.

In post 1496, Amrun wrote:I really see no need to unvote pitoli. A replacement doesn't erase the scummy things pitoli did.

Which can quickly be summed up as...?

In post 1487, Amrun wrote:RedCoyote, please don't replace out. :'( Things will thin out soon enough.

Yes, Amrun plans to make it so.

Matt, do you have any reason on thor or is it just "Thor's reasons suck"? I've been reading, but I don't see a whole lot or reasoning here.