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in the (perhaps unlikely?) event i die tonight, please consider a mass claim tomorrow. i stand by thinking it should have happened today, but it didn't so whatever.

DV can you check whether luna is X, tonight? or not, whatever, but it'd be interesting to know if it's possible for you to get conflicting results and luna seems like an OK choice here.

nothing; zero; none: I have absolutely no motivation—zilch, zip, nada!

Vote Count 3.10

Luna Lovegood

( 1 ) PeaceBringer

Dante

( 0 )

DeasVail

( 0 )

Shadowy Poison

( 0 )

Rail Tracer

( 1 ) Kmd4390

PeaceBringer

( 2 ) Varsoon

ooba

( 0 )

Kmd4390

( 5 ) Majiffy , Mitillos , Dante , Rail Tracer , ooba

Varsoon

Kid A

( 0 )

Mitillos

( 4 ) Shadowy Poison , Luna Lovegood , BBmolla , DeasVail

RadiantCowbells

( 0 )

Majiffy

( 0 )

BBmolla

( 1 ) RadiantCowbells

Not voting:

With 13 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline is in

UNVOTE:
VOTE: kmd

I'm going to focus on Rail, BBmolla, and Peace for now.

There's scum between the three of them.

The day needs to end on a lynch, however, and with a lot of my scumspecs on this wagon, I'm interested to see how it flips.



Sorry, KMD.

i believe that was the hammer

and that post was horrible

In post 1480, Rail Tracer wrote:i believe that was the hammer

and that post was horrible

I'm aware.

You're especially venomous this game, RT.

that's an aspect of my town game, fyi. i'm less confrontational as scum.

In the few other games I've seen you as town, you weren't this way.

Anyway, behavioral analysis isn't really worth much.

My big hope is that KMD is scum, but it's unlikely.

then you haven't been paying attention to me in my town games, or you haven't seen how i've reacted to a similar situation. you've also seen me play scum on at least one occasion (and two if you actually followed death's diner after you died) so you should know that, at the very least, i don't play like this as scum. i'm also interested in which "few other games" you've seen me play as town because i only have like 4 completed games since i started playing again and 3 of them i was scum in.

all that aside, your hammer post was bad because i don't think you actually have a good reason for suspecting there's scum in {RT, BB, peace}, let alone a good reason to "focus" on those names, or even assume you're going to be alive tomorrow (and i know you think assuming you're going to be alive tomorrow is a scummy thing to do).

plus voting for someone your scum suspects are voting just to see a flip is meh. sort of understandable given the deadline, but still meh.

Good thing I didn't take the time to read. Probably wouldn't have mattered much anyway. I honestly think a lot of the people that are pretty widely suspected are town. Mit, BBMolla, Luna are mostly who I have in mind. Pretty sure Rail is scum, obviously. And Majiffy is town.

I should have done this already but for scum check out the wagons.

Katsuki ( 7 ) DeasVail , PeaceBringer , Rail Tracer , ooba , SleepyKrew , BBmolla
^This flipped town. nero/mollie was town so I removed them.

This is still alive (Majiffy's slot), again dead town removed:
SleepyKrew ( 7 ) Rail Tracer , BBmolla , Viera Assassin PeaceBringer , Dante
^We notice Rail and BBMolla the only repeat names. Shows a high chance of scum in Rail/BB/Majiffy. You guys should already know where I lean but I'll leave it for you.

PeaceBringer ( 5 ) DeasVail , SleepyKrew , Nani
^Deas on his second major wagon. Majiffy also there. Both early (dead town at the last two spots) and the wagon died fast. Slight points against Deas/Majiffy/Peace but there's a chance this was a townwagon on town. Maybe.

dopog ( 10 ) Shadowy Poison, Luna Lovegood , Nani , Rail Tracer , DeasVail ,PeaceBringer , RadiantCowbells
^This almost looks like a counter wagon to Peace. If Peace flips scum, scum in Shadow/Luna/Rail/Radiant. Maybe two. If Peace is town, add Deas to this list and there are still at least two scum.

mnemonicdevice ( 9 ) Dante , Rail Tracer , Metal Unites Mutley , Luna Lovegood , Mitillos ,DeasVail , PeaceBringer
Rail and Deas again? Damn! lol. But yeah at least two scum here too. Luna's name is on here a lot too. And Peace. Maybe I was wrong about them.

Mitillos ( 4 ) ooba , Rail Tracer , Shadowy Poison , BBmolla
^Should be one here. You know who I think it is.

Kmd4390 ( 5 ) Majiffy , Mitillos , Dante , Rail Tracer , ooba
^Add BBMolla and Varsoon. Total of 2 scum probably.

So if I had to throw out some guesses right now, I like Rail, Deas, and some names out of ooba/Majiffy/Peace/Luna just based on the wagons.

I hope people take a closer look at these at some point.

In post 1484, Rail Tracer wrote:then you haven't been paying attention to me in my town games, or you haven't seen how i've reacted to a similar situation. you've also seen me play scum on at least one occasion (and two if you actually followed death's diner after you died) so you should know that, at the very least, i don't play like this as scum. i'm also interested in which "few other games" you've seen me play as town because i only have like 4 completed games since i started playing again and 3 of them i was scum in.

Also being aware of one's own meta invalidates it to an extent.



Vengeful roles can be fun sometimes lol. Funny how no one asked for a claim.

that's impressive. i've been doin' work dis game. i'm on every wagon that isn't peacebringer.

i don't believe that claim, but in the event it's actually true, you're a total moron.

independent of your flip

kmd wrote:Katsuki ( 7 ) DeasVail , PeaceBringer , Rail Tracer , ooba , SleepyKrew , BBmolla

this wagon is only interesting because it means i'm probably super wrong somewhere in my reads.

i've been thinking i could actually be wrong about ooba. but this is mostly gut and he looks kinda town so i don't think i am.

maybe peacebringer is scum. but it seems kind of weird that he publicly claimed that role as scum when he coulda kept quiet about it.

Nah I was VT. Just a last attempt to get a reaction.

If you're town, don't brush off the Ooba thing because I kinda get that same feeling.

What was Peace's claim again?

Daytalk Enabler

i actually wanted to do a VCA earlier this day phase but i got busy IRL and generally felt lazy towards this game.

but yeah, whatever, i need to do an overhaul of my reads this game, assuming the very likely scenario that i'm still alive tomorrow.

And he claimed for no reason or...?

he claimed for a reason, i think

i don't think he claimed for a reason

i remember him mentioning something after i brought up the possibility that all town PRs could be negative utility, and that this may have had something to do with it, but it as largely unprompted.

In post 833, PeaceBringer wrote:

In post 830, RadiantCowbells wrote:I got a guilty on Peacebringer last night >:(

that is a lie or you are paranoid...
might as well claim then- my role is Networker. It is negative ultility. There may be logic in my dying, as anyone who has a QT has full access during the day as long as alive. I die they lose it.

he claimed after rc claimed a guilty on him

o right

yeah i dunno where i've gone wrong in my reads, but i've gone wrong somewhere and i need to reassess

In post 1496, Luna Lovegood wrote:

In post 833, PeaceBringer wrote:

In post 830, RadiantCowbells wrote:I got a guilty on Peacebringer last night >:(

that is a lie or you are paranoid...
might as well claim then- my role is Networker. It is negative ultility. There may be logic in my dying, as anyone who has a QT has full access during the day as long as alive. I die they lose it.

he claimed after rc claimed a guilty on him

Do you believe his claim? If so, do you think it makes him town?

er

i just realised something



i know bb claimed "Naive Cop Neighbour" but i just want to verify that's what it is exactly.