Mafiascum.net

what's unjustified about goaT vote?

what's unjustified about goaT vote?

In post 1470, Thor665 wrote:

In post 1433, Goat on a Raft wrote:Thor: "putting it succinctly" requires something to be "put". His actual vote, sure, it's short. His explanations are in big piles of Thorness, most of which are over this head's personal can-I-be-arsed-to-read-it post length.

Welcome to my life.
I do love how apparently in the online forum environment 'reading' is considered a hassle though.

Said the guy who wouldn't read the thread.

In post 1470, Thor665 wrote:

In post 1436, Nautilius wrote:

In post 1385, Thor665 wrote:Benmage actually seems to be playing worse than Mollie in this game.
That is sad.

Why are you voting Amrun?

Overreactive defensiveness of me to Benmage considering an otherwise sedate playstyle (that she was called on and defended as what she was doing in this game).
Pair that up with getting really annoyed when I asked her about it.

This argument is fairly town.

In post 1470, Thor665 wrote:

In post 1456, Nautilius wrote:His votes suck, the ooba wagon is horrible.

I agree that the Ooba wagon is horrible.
So...which counterwagon should I be supporting then? The one on me? The one I openly disagree with on Stupendous? The kinda mushy Messiah one? Or should I start a wagon I like?

Oh, and look, you dislike me for doing that too.

Meh.
Derp tell is derpy.

You don't seem like the type to be this passive. You don't like the ooba wagon and the current counterwagon is you, so you deduce that there's nothing you can do? Try to start a counterwagon. It's clear there isn't a ton of interest in your top choices, so pick someone else. If you pick one of the fairly large number of options I prefer over the you wagon, I may just join you. But curling up and dying doesn't seem like your style. I'm assuming blded refers to your attempt to start a wagon on Amrun. I haven't been paying a ton of attention to your posts but I don't see what's not to like about that.

In post 1470, Thor665 wrote:

In post 1433, Goat on a Raft wrote:Thor: "putting it succinctly" requires something to be "put". His actual vote, sure, it's short. His explanations are in big piles of Thorness, most of which are over this head's personal can-I-be-arsed-to-read-it post length.

Welcome to my life.
I do love how apparently in the online forum environment 'reading' is considered a hassle though.

Said the guy who wouldn't read the thread.

In post 1470, Thor665 wrote:

In post 1436, Nautilius wrote:

In post 1385, Thor665 wrote:Benmage actually seems to be playing worse than Mollie in this game.
That is sad.

Why are you voting Amrun?

Overreactive defensiveness of me to Benmage considering an otherwise sedate playstyle (that she was called on and defended as what she was doing in this game).
Pair that up with getting really annoyed when I asked her about it.

This argument is fairly town.

In post 1470, Thor665 wrote:

In post 1456, Nautilius wrote:His votes suck, the ooba wagon is horrible.

I agree that the Ooba wagon is horrible.
So...which counterwagon should I be supporting then? The one on me? The one I openly disagree with on Stupendous? The kinda mushy Messiah one? Or should I start a wagon I like?

Oh, and look, you dislike me for doing that too.

Meh.
Derp tell is derpy.

You don't seem like the type to be this passive. You don't like the ooba wagon and the current counterwagon is you, so you deduce that there's nothing you can do? Try to start a counterwagon. It's clear there isn't a ton of interest in your top choices, so pick someone else. If you pick one of the fairly large number of options I prefer over the you wagon, I may just join you. But curling up and dying doesn't seem like your style. I'm assuming blded refers to your attempt to start a wagon on Amrun. I haven't been paying a ton of attention to your posts but I don't see what's not to like about that.

Right, let's do this thread.

First thing firsts looking at recent VC and 3 days to go ~ I am happy to join the Thor wagon, I agree with Benmage's 518 and D1 is the only optimal time to do so.

In post 1471, ooba wrote:Messiah, you arent voting Garruk after that post?

Desp and I agreed that we wouldn't vote without the other heads approval, I'm waiting to hear back from him right now. Fully expect a vote on Garruk in the near future though.

Day 1, Vc 41

PrideandJoy (1) -

Amrun

ooba (10) -

quadz08, PrideandJoy, AGar, Shadoweh, Tierce, Tammy, StupendousMan, Goat on a Raft, Syryana, Garruk Relentless

Thor665 (7) -

elleheathen, kanyeknowsbest, Benmage, Cephrir, Nautilius, macmollie, SafetyDance

Goat on a Raft (1) -

displaced

Zdenek (1) -

Messiah Complex

Garruk Relentless (1) -

ooba

Amrun (2) -

Thor665, Zdenek

Not voting (1)-

Alfred Borden

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch

• Deadline Date: 1st of October at 17:05 EDT
  
• Deadline Countdown: (expired on 2013-10-01 17:05:01)
  
• Thor and ooba are V/la. macmollie is V/la.

Prodding Tierce

In post 1481, Formerfish wrote:

In post 1471, ooba wrote:Messiah, you arent voting Garruk after that post?

Desp and I agreed that we wouldn't vote without the other heads approval, I'm waiting to hear back from him right now. Fully expect a vote on Garruk in the near future though.

Damnit.

In post 1480, SafetyDance wrote:First thing firsts looking at recent VC and 3 days to go ~ I am happy to join the Thor wagon, I agree with Benmage's 518 and D1 is the only optimal time to do so.

Vote: Thor665

Why Thor over ooba? Is Benmage's 518 the only reason you think Thor is scum?

In post 1471, ooba wrote:Messiah, you arent voting Garruk after that post?

I'm not as convinced that Garruk is scum, we aren't interested in voting you or Thor, and zdenek is a read we both agree on so our vote stays there.

- Des

In post 1480, SafetyDance wrote:First thing firsts looking at recent VC and 3 days to go ~ I am happy to join the Thor wagon, I agree with Benmage's 518 and D1 is the only optimal time to do so.

Vote: Thor665

a fucking policy lynch

SD town read redacted.

In post 1481, Formerfish wrote:

In post 1471, ooba wrote:Messiah, you arent voting Garruk after that post?

Desp and I agreed that we wouldn't vote without the other heads approval, I'm waiting to hear back from him right now. Fully expect a vote on Garruk in the near future though.

I don't think garruk is a good vote today. I've seen both heads as town recently and their play isn't out of step for either.

- Des

whee it's the weekend

i'm here
I fucking LOVE our position on the ooba wagon though
2nd vote
man that's sweet
so probably not moving the vote
(also he struck me as scum so)

Going to selectively read because I'm a lazy asshole and I don't like reading ~40? pages of shit i haven't read. ANything important I should make sure to read?

Not sure how I feel about one Messiah head presenting a case and the other noping it.

That's just strange either way.

What's strange about it? I'm not "noping it," I'm saying that I'm reading them differently.

- Des

I just don't think I've ever seen a hydra behave quite like that before.

Reading them differently and disagreeing with FF's case are the same thing.

You've never seen a hydra disagree on a read?

Not in quite that fashion, no.

I'm not saying it makes you scum, only that it puzzles me.

There's way more to Thor, than Policy Lynching him for Miller.

A)Miller claim
B) His auto-town assertion in his claim
C) His bullshitting well into the game about his claim verse being open and truth full.. we're the uniformed, we cant be playing games.
D) His repetitive deflection
E) Fence-sitting/lining up lynches.

Its a great D1 lynch if you ask me. Wayyy to many question marks surrounding that slot.

In post 1476, displaced wrote:what's unjustified about goaT vote?

Your reasoning doesn't hold up, especially when he's pointed out the numbers. It's not like he can convince people to jump on a null read, so consolidating to the larger wagon actually makes sense, especially with how weak his town read seemed to be to begin with.

In post 1480, SafetyDance wrote:First thing firsts looking at recent VC and 3 days to go ~ I am happy to join the Thor wagon, I agree with Benmage's 518 and D1 is the only optimal time to do so.

Vote: Thor665

diediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediediedie

I feel like you jumped on a slip that wasn't a slip, acknowledged how the concept is fully possible and would even make a hell of a lot of sense. Your slot views one of our agreed upon reads as scummy. Repeatedly mentioned your role restriction. And your votes have been garbage and it doesn't seem like a single one of them is a vote that you actually believe in.

So, let's break this down.

I feel like you jumped on a slip that wasn't a slip, acknowledged how the concept is fully possible and would even make a hell of a lot of sense.

See, the disconnect here is assuming you assume I had thought about the flavoring of the scumteam. I admit, I usually worry about flavor stuff like that, but in this particular game there were enough possible scum factions that I was not particularly interested in flavor specing. The statement elle made came off as weird to me--mostly because of the wight thing--it just seemed more natural to say "scum" there. I dunno.

Your slot views one of our agreed upon reads as scummy.

I'd like to say that this is one of those classic scum arguments, or just bad reasoning at this point in the game--especially on d1 not everyone is going to agree with your reads. That said, I think you're ultimately town, though. Yes, I know that we used the same reasoning in this very thread. No, that doesn't mean our reasoning was any better than yours.

Repeatedly mentioned your role restriction.

Perhaps we ultimately repeated it too much.

And your votes have been garbage and it doesn't seem like a single one of them is a vote that you actually believe in.

Truth. Part of it is our hydra dissonance. Part of it is my complete lack of presence. Part of it is my disillusionment with day ones. Part of it is the fucking quote walls.

also, this part made me laugh.

If he were that fearful why even self-vote in the first place.

If we're not lynching ooba, I'd like to move to SafetyDance.

SafetyDance is a good vote.
VOTE: SafetyDance

We can do better than Ooba.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: SafetyDance

If we can actually do this it's way better than the other two

UNVOTE:
VOTE: SafetyDance