Is anyone arguing that Paranoid did a remotely pro-town thing with his hammer yesterday?
Also, could you clarify what point you think Generic Purple is making that you find questionable. I am really on their side in this current debate, and I'm on their side to such a huge degree that it means either you are talking total nonsense or I am too silly to understand what point you're actually making.
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:28 pm
by Si and Am
They think that my comments on wanting to drop our vote on Nacho to give him a chance to speak and prevent a derp hammer silencing him shows us as scum. It does not it shows my continual belief in giving a lynchee a chance to speak something I believe deeply in no matter what I think the lynchee is. Something that is important enough to me for me to put in my IC blurb.
It is so flimsy that paper is stronger than it and is a great way of obfuscating things to cover up that they are scum.
Si thinks so and so do I.
~Am
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:42 pm
by Squirrel Girl
In post 1476, Si and Am wrote:They think that my comments on wanting to drop our vote on Nacho to give him a chance to speak and prevent a derp hammer silencing him shows us as scum. It does not it shows my continual belief in giving a lynchee a chance to speak something I believe deeply in no matter what I think the lynchee is. Something that is important enough to me for me to put in my IC blurb.
Your IC blurb just supported a stance of 'hammer intent' though, so does it support the unvote thing?
I do sort of agree that most 20/20 hindsight and/or bemoaning of past failures tends to feel scummy to me, so I'm not sure why it's surprising to you that Generic Purple feels the same. Isn't that a pretty common tell, and if so, why is it odd that they are using it?
Tammy might be scum, she usually is ready to jump to me being scum and I know that though I have not yet posted til now and its all been Si, still she knew I was part of the hydra. She did not do that here. And the passion and overly towniness that I am used to from her is not there.
~Am
This is the most cookoo reason to suspect me. You haven't posted but because I haven't called you scum in a game you haven't posted in yet I'm suspicious. You know what you should do? Find me one game where I called you scum before you posted. I'll wait. (You would also note if you were actually reading the game that I hadn't read the game much, and when I did start catching up with the game Nacho was the most important thing for me to figure out.)
Right now I can't tell if this is convoluted town theory or scum needing a reason to call someone because it was a popular thing.
Okay, I think I finalized my read on you. However I'm gonna hold it close to my chest for now~
YOU DON'T EVEN COMMENT ON MY T/S LIST WHEN YOU KNOW THAT I HATE MAKING THOSE KINDS OF LIST BECAUSE OF THE TRANSPARENCY IT GIVES, AND BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH EXTRA WORK I HAVE TO PUT INTO THAN NORMAL
WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT
HUHHUHUH
Why?
I'm changing my play style. I'm keeping my townreads close to my chest unless they are so obv town that they are bleeding obv town all over the thread then I don't bother keeping my reads close.
Why Mala my dear why are you doing this? I tend to be easily mislynched and when I read someone as town they tend to die right away. I'm sick of this happening game after game that I'm town in. I hate being mislynched so I'm trying something new.
Just because of all the caps locks and you bringing attention to it. I saw it and yeah it made me want to change my read on you, but now in addition to it plus this I'm sorta thinking it was staged for this type of argument right here.
Your push on us is weird. You did this in HBIII. You probably aren't town.
There's something up with you. It's not like town you to not answer a question and have some type of complex when someone asks you to do so.
Bad news to you two, mara has you as top scumread for us, which means now I get to chat with you.
So this OMGUS piece of shit vote you drop. You tell us how it's staying for a very long time... That sounds like a very strong read, I have to at least give you kudos for sticking to your principles and... Oh look, it lasted an hour.
And then I'm guessing the temptation to take out nacho and desp was too much and you got all excited.
And then my favourite part of today is you sanctimoniously declaring you would have pulled your vote had you realised they were at L-1 to stop the hammer...
Probably best to give you a heads up, you are my project today. I'm gonna be on you like a fly around shit. Cos you are scum and you are going to die today.
I will let mara keep an eye out for your buddies, you will be I. Generics tunnel of hate. And I'm in just that sort of mood. The beauty of my borderline autism, I'm a petty, stubborn bastard.
Be seeing ya S & A, be seeing ya.
vote Si and Am
One Phrase: Come at me bro.
Reasons why I moved it was because:
There was obv no chance at getting you lynched. No one was really wanting to lynch you and it was being drowned out due to Mollie screaming her read off at Nacho being scum. I sheeped Mollie because I know she can read Nacho and because I just wanted her to bloody shut the fuck up. She was tunneling and there was no way to get her out of the tunnel so basically no matter how MUCH I pushed your slot it was going to go on death ears because mollie was 1v1ing with Nacho-slot.
Please do not confuse my posts with the other head's posts. She doesn't like the QL's and votes without intent to hamemer because it hurts town more than it helps. (Hint: Look at what happened when PFR hammered w/o a claim.)
Go, I dare you to try and find my buddies, but hint: it won't work because of one key reason: I'm not scum.
I'm finally all caught up in the game, and want to talk to ff about the things he asked me about. Also, but more importantly I just had a ridiculously long day and my brain is fried. I'll get to this and give thoughts on people after work. I'm gonna pass out now.
I do, though, appreciate that at least someone got that me getting upset over being mislynched was due to pride.
unvote to GIVE him a chance to Speak does not mean a permanent unvote. bah
I am a big supporter of giving the lynchee a chance to claim and give reads, etc. EVEN IF I THINK he or she is scum. Town needs the info period.
~Am
In post 1474, Si and Am wrote:I noticed that you did not even comment on that derp hammer by PFR what about that?
I still think being bored is not good enough for derp hammering on someone before they had a chance to speak.
~Am
No, no, tis you that missed my point.
I will run it again for you, since you haven't caught on. My issue isn't with your philosophy. It's with the lengths you went to to prove this is your meta and berating people for not being able to save someone from a fast hammer reeks of scum.
You also made a big deal about how strong your scum read was on us to the point you wouldn't move the vote, yet on a whim an hour later it moves anyway and then you bemoan that lynch going through without claim? Don't vote so easily then.
And to the main point, YOU ARE STILL TALKING TO US LIKE YOU WSNT OUR OPINION TO CHANGE... Meaning you know we are town. Your attitude and tone in arguing with us doesn't in any way reflect a person scum reading us, yet we are apparently your main suspect.
And mara can deal with the rest, I'm focusing on you until one of us is dead. See I wrote this game off from my stats the moment two players were mod killed, crippling my chances of winning this. So you get me not giving a shit now, and just wanting to see you lynched.
In post 1476, Si and Am wrote:They think that my comments on wanting to drop our vote on Nacho to give him a chance to speak and prevent a derp hammer silencing him shows us as scum. It does not it shows my continual belief in giving a lynchee a chance to speak something I believe deeply in no matter what I think the lynchee is. Something that is important enough to me for me to put in my IC blurb.
Your IC blurb just supported a stance of 'hammer intent' though, so does it support the unvote thing?
I do sort of agree that most 20/20 hindsight and/or bemoaning of past failures tends to feel scummy to me, so I'm not sure why it's surprising to you that Generic Purple feels the same. Isn't that a pretty common tell, and if so, why is it odd that they are using it?
I see you are now going to use hydra different thinking to mask the inconsistencies. This should be fun.
So every time one of you contradicts the other you are gonna try and sell me that?
Are mara and I the only team that bother to discuss our opinions before we bring a united hydra opinion to the public posting?
In post 1476, Si and Am wrote:They think that my comments on wanting to drop our vote on Nacho to give him a chance to speak and prevent a derp hammer silencing him shows us as scum. It does not it shows my continual belief in giving a lynchee a chance to speak something I believe deeply in no matter what I think the lynchee is. Something that is important enough to me for me to put in my IC blurb.
Your IC blurb just supported a stance of 'hammer intent' though, so does it support the unvote thing?
I do sort of agree that most 20/20 hindsight and/or bemoaning of past failures tends to feel scummy to me, so I'm not sure why it's surprising to you that Generic Purple feels the same. Isn't that a pretty common tell, and if so, why is it odd that they are using it?
Tammy might be scum, she usually is ready to jump to me being scum and I know that though I have not yet posted til now and its all been Si, still she knew I was part of the hydra. She did not do that here. And the passion and overly towniness that I am used to from her is not there.
~Am
This is the most cookoo reason to suspect me. You haven't posted but because I haven't called you scum in a game you haven't posted in yet I'm suspicious. You know what you should do? Find me one game where I called you scum before you posted. I'll wait. (You would also note if you were actually reading the game that I hadn't read the game much, and when I did start catching up with the game Nacho was the most important thing for me to figure out.)
Right now I can't tell if this is convoluted town theory or scum needing a reason to call someone because it was a popular thing.
Okay, I think I finalized my read on you. However I'm gonna hold it close to my chest for now~
YOU DON'T EVEN COMMENT ON MY T/S LIST WHEN YOU KNOW THAT I HATE MAKING THOSE KINDS OF LIST BECAUSE OF THE TRANSPARENCY IT GIVES, AND BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH EXTRA WORK I HAVE TO PUT INTO THAN NORMAL
WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT
HUHHUHUH
Why?
I'm changing my play style. I'm keeping my townreads close to my chest unless they are so obv town that they are bleeding obv town all over the thread then I don't bother keeping my reads close.
Why Mala my dear why are you doing this? I tend to be easily mislynched and when I read someone as town they tend to die right away. I'm sick of this happening game after game that I'm town in. I hate being mislynched so I'm trying something new.
Just because of all the caps locks and you bringing attention to it. I saw it and yeah it made me want to change my read on you, but now in addition to it plus this I'm sorta thinking it was staged for this type of argument right here.
Your push on us is weird. You did this in HBIII. You probably aren't town.
There's something up with you. It's not like town you to not answer a question and have some type of complex when someone asks you to do so.
Bad news to you two, mara has you as top scumread for us, which means now I get to chat with you.
So this OMGUS piece of shit vote you drop. You tell us how it's staying for a very long time... That sounds like a very strong read, I have to at least give you kudos for sticking to your principles and... Oh look, it lasted an hour.
And then I'm guessing the temptation to take out nacho and desp was too much and you got all excited.
And then my favourite part of today is you sanctimoniously declaring you would have pulled your vote had you realised they were at L-1 to stop the hammer...
Probably best to give you a heads up, you are my project today. I'm gonna be on you like a fly around shit. Cos you are scum and you are going to die today.
I will let mara keep an eye out for your buddies, you will be I. Generics tunnel of hate. And I'm in just that sort of mood. The beauty of my borderline autism, I'm a petty, stubborn bastard.
Be seeing ya S & A, be seeing ya.
vote Si and Am
One Phrase: Come at me bro.
Reasons why I moved it was because:
There was obv no chance at getting you lynched. No one was really wanting to lynch you and it was being drowned out due to Mollie screaming her read off at Nacho being scum. I sheeped Mollie because I know she can read Nacho and because I just wanted her to bloody shut the fuck up. She was tunneling and there was no way to get her out of the tunnel so basically no matter how MUCH I pushed your slot it was going to go on death ears because mollie was 1v1ing with Nacho-slot.
Please do not confuse my posts with the other head's posts. She doesn't like the QL's and votes without intent to hamemer because it hurts town more than it helps. (Hint: Look at what happened when PFR hammered w/o a claim.)
Go, I dare you to try and find my buddies, but hint: it won't work because of one key reason: I'm not scum.
~ Si.
I see you are now going to use hydra different thinking to mask the inconsistencies. This should be fun.
So every time one of you contradicts the other you are gonna try and sell me that?
Are mara and I the only team that bother to discuss our opinions before we bring a united hydra opinion to the public posting?
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:12 pm
by Generically Purple
Not doing it again, squirrel girl stop stalking me with your post!
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:14 pm
by Si and Am
No I think you are scum but I cant be 100% sure of that obviously.
We do talk in our QT, but we both were making different points, since she changed the vote over she was explaining her reasoning more, meanwhile I was addressing the other point you kept harping on.
How is that inconsistent?
~Am
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:47 pm
by Mhork and Mindy
If this is scum-Rach, she's playing a completely different scum game than I've ever seen her play solo or in hydra. She's not a high volume poster, but she's working to contribute content here when she does post, and she's engaging in the thread.
Only seen scum-Mala in hydra form, but this doesn't feel like her recent scum hydra games either; too comfortable. I'd like her to follow up on her wanting to talk to me, but I'll trust that that will come without my having to go all paranoid on her.
In post 1482, Generically Purple wrote:I see you are now going to use hydra different thinking to mask the inconsistencies. This should be fun.
So every time one of you contradicts the other you are gonna try and sell me that?
Are mara and I the only team that bother to discuss our opinions before we bring a united hydra opinion to the public posting?
How dissonant relative to some of the other hydras do you really think Mala-Rach are? Descending to the point of griping about hydra style looks rather fluffy.
Mala, is this scum-Tammy? I'm getting a better vibe than D1, but it's also less noisy overall.
As far as the remaining Faith Healer claiming (which is what mass claim comes down to) I think we need the discussion time for the early part of today at least, given that we've lost a day/night phase's worth of leeway to modkills. I also think that the Faith Healer should be the one to decide about claiming--if they think they're being town-read enough in the latter part of the day phase to win out against any potential counterclaims if we end up at LyLo, they should stay quiet; if they think they look scummy, then they should claim to give us time to deal with it.
I'm willing to see where the Generically Purple wagon goes, but I'm not convinced myself. Mhork feels differently though.
RBD reads town, as does Squirrel Girl, although I'd like to see more from the former.
In post 1435, Paranoia Fueled Rampage wrote:OK so the FH stops the kill... we're in MYLO. What next?
Mass claim is optimal play here... we get a conf town for today and increase our odd of hitting scum
~G
Why do you talk like we have no chance of lynching scum today?
Athenas Fury, what are your reads having caught up?
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:47 pm
by Mhork and Mindy
Argh, sorry ^ was PA
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:53 pm
by Rancid Broderick Drake
SG wrote:I still think [Stuffed Crust] looks town.
Aaaaaaaaargh, I think ye be wrong, but I respect yer right to be wrong. Ye be a free pirate.
Tell me why ye think this and I'll help ye understand why yer wrong.
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:07 pm
by Rancid Broderick Drake
I aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghree with PFR about claims, I'd prefer it happens today because I don't want to give scum a chance to decide whether they're going to have someone counter-claim and I don't want it to happen at LyLo for this reason. Faith Healer isn't a particular strong role, anyway. I see me other half has already chipped in on this but whatever.
mhork wrote:Also I like Athena. Far less strong than PFR, but the crying/emotion/etc looks a lot like town really frustrated that her play is awful this game. I feel like scum would prolly be less openly insane about how emotional a game is making them.
Your read here be really messed up. The wench wasn't emotional because of her bad play, she was (probably pretending to be) emotional because she didn't want to be lynched. And me thinks this be more because it's what expected of her as town than a real emotional reaction. It is insanely easy to fake stuff like that (especially if ye know it wasn't actually the hammer) and nothing else she be doing looks town
mhork wrote:Rancid is, like, eh. I haven't really been reading all that many of his posts because pirate talk is stupid
Be careful what ye say, lest I cut yer tongue out and make ye walk the plank. I be a fair captain, but there be a line and you be crossing it here. Don't test me patience
generic hydra thingy wrote:WHY WOULD SHE ADMIT TO CRYING IF SHE WAS SCUM
I worry ye be really naive. Really, really naive.
generic hydra thingy wrote:town is LITERALLY handing scum this win
Ye say that while voting someone who
actually
looks town. Get over yerself if yer town, take a step back and think.
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:10 pm
by Paranoia Fueled Rampage
Some of Yggdra Union's posts are giving me the heebie jeebies
~G
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:12 pm
by Rancid Broderick Drake
Welcome to TNE?
I don't mind posts that look like they be pieguy. The lack of involvement be irksome but that be about it for what I have not liked so far. There be one point at D1 where their reads aligned with mine.
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:18 pm
by Rancid Broderick Drake
Petition for both Generically Purple and Si&Am to shut the fuck up and stop whining at each other because it's distracting and they are probably both town.
SG wrote:I still think [Stuffed Crust] looks town.
Aaaaaaaaargh, I think ye be wrong, but I respect yer right to be wrong. Ye be a free pirate.
Tell me why ye think this and I'll help ye understand why yer wrong.
It seems backwards for me to have to prove the lack of scum actions. I suppose my answer is, sadly, 'gut'. Pretty much its his willing admissions of lack of reading paired with acting aggressive and jokey at the same time. For him to be scum I feel he'd have to be intentionally trying to play up an odd persona and to combine that with thinking it wouldn't get him in trouble. Meanwhile, it has got him in trouble and yet the playstyle hasn't shifted at all. Feels town.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:54 am
by TheButtonmen
Vote Count 2.2
Athenas Fury (1): Paranoia Fueled Rampage
Rancid Broderick Drake (0)
Paranoia Fueled Rampage (1): Stuffed Crust
Mhork and Mindy (0)
Stuffed Crust (0)
Squirrel Girl (0)
Yggdra Union (0)
Generically Purple (2): Si and Am, Mhork and Mindy
Si and Am (0): Generically Purple
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:31 am
by Rancid Broderick Drake
SG wrote:For him to be scum I feel he'd have to be intentionally trying to play up an odd persona and to combine that with thinking it wouldn't get him in trouble. Meanwhile, it has got him in trouble and yet the playstyle hasn't shifted at all. Feels town.
Ye say it's got him into trouble. Who be scum reading him outside of me? And since I've openly expressed the suspicion in no uncertain terms, have they posted once?
They've posted once today. And if ye think that post be a town post, then ye compass be broken.
In post 1476, Si and Am wrote:They think that my comments on wanting to drop our vote on Nacho to give him a chance to speak and prevent a derp hammer silencing him shows us as scum. It does not it shows my continual belief in giving a lynchee a chance to speak something I believe deeply in no matter what I think the lynchee is. Something that is important enough to me for me to put in my IC blurb.
Your IC blurb just supported a stance of 'hammer intent' though, so does it support the unvote thing?
I do sort of agree that most 20/20 hindsight and/or bemoaning of past failures tends to feel scummy to me, so I'm not sure why it's surprising to you that Generic Purple feels the same. Isn't that a pretty common tell, and if so, why is it odd that they are using it?
Tammy might be scum, she usually is ready to jump to me being scum and I know that though I have not yet posted til now and its all been Si, still she knew I was part of the hydra. She did not do that here. And the passion and overly towniness that I am used to from her is not there.
~Am
This is the most cookoo reason to suspect me. You haven't posted but because I haven't called you scum in a game you haven't posted in yet I'm suspicious. You know what you should do? Find me one game where I called you scum before you posted. I'll wait. (You would also note if you were actually reading the game that I hadn't read the game much, and when I did start catching up with the game Nacho was the most important thing for me to figure out.)
Right now I can't tell if this is convoluted town theory or scum needing a reason to call someone because it was a popular thing.
Okay, I think I finalized my read on you. However I'm gonna hold it close to my chest for now~
YOU DON'T EVEN COMMENT ON MY T/S LIST WHEN YOU KNOW THAT I HATE MAKING THOSE KINDS OF LIST BECAUSE OF THE TRANSPARENCY IT GIVES, AND BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH EXTRA WORK I HAVE TO PUT INTO THAN NORMAL
WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT
HUHHUHUH
Why?
I'm changing my play style. I'm keeping my townreads close to my chest unless they are so obv town that they are bleeding obv town all over the thread then I don't bother keeping my reads close.
Why Mala my dear why are you doing this? I tend to be easily mislynched and when I read someone as town they tend to die right away. I'm sick of this happening game after game that I'm town in. I hate being mislynched so I'm trying something new.
Just because of all the caps locks and you bringing attention to it. I saw it and yeah it made me want to change my read on you, but now in addition to it plus this I'm sorta thinking it was staged for this type of argument right here.
Your push on us is weird. You did this in HBIII. You probably aren't town.
There's something up with you. It's not like town you to not answer a question and have some type of complex when someone asks you to do so.
Bad news to you two, mara has you as top scumread for us, which means now I get to chat with you.
So this OMGUS piece of shit vote you drop. You tell us how it's staying for a very long time... That sounds like a very strong read, I have to at least give you kudos for sticking to your principles and... Oh look, it lasted an hour.
And then I'm guessing the temptation to take out nacho and desp was too much and you got all excited.
And then my favourite part of today is you sanctimoniously declaring you would have pulled your vote had you realised they were at L-1 to stop the hammer...
Probably best to give you a heads up, you are my project today. I'm gonna be on you like a fly around shit. Cos you are scum and you are going to die today.
I will let mara keep an eye out for your buddies, you will be I. Generics tunnel of hate. And I'm in just that sort of mood. The beauty of my borderline autism, I'm a petty, stubborn bastard.
Be seeing ya S & A, be seeing ya.
vote Si and Am
One Phrase: Come at me bro.
Reasons why I moved it was because:
There was obv no chance at getting you lynched. No one was really wanting to lynch you and it was being drowned out due to Mollie screaming her read off at Nacho being scum. I sheeped Mollie because I know she can read Nacho and because I just wanted her to bloody shut the fuck up. She was tunneling and there was no way to get her out of the tunnel so basically no matter how MUCH I pushed your slot it was going to go on death ears because mollie was 1v1ing with Nacho-slot.
Please do not confuse my posts with the other head's posts. She doesn't like the QL's and votes without intent to hamemer because it hurts town more than it helps. (Hint: Look at what happened when PFR hammered w/o a claim.)
Go, I dare you to try and find my buddies, but hint: it won't work because of one key reason: I'm not scum.
~ Si.
I see you are now going to use hydra different thinking to mask the inconsistencies. This should be fun.
So every time one of you contradicts the other you are gonna try and sell me that?
Are mara and I the only team that bother to discuss our opinions before we bring a united hydra opinion to the public posting?[/quote]
In post 1393, Si and Am wrote:
There was at least one scum on that wagon which means:
PfR or Anthea.
A few things:
1. Discuss Mara/Gen Hydra.
2. Discuss your read on Paranoid Fueled Rampage
3. Discuss the nacho/mollie Day 1.
4. Discuss why you were so absent on Day 1.
~
Also have you talked to your other head about our hydra? y/n?
~Si
I would like for you to tell me how I would, as scum, go after Nacho the way I did.
My impression was that Nacho went after Tammy first, which makes it less of an active choice on your part.
--PA
Bolded because I accidentally put the stuff i wanted to talk about in a quote.
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:41 am
by Generically Purple
In post 1491, Rancid Broderick Drake wrote:Petition for both Generically Purple and Si&Am to shut the fuck up and stop whining at each other because it's distracting and they are probably both town.
Please sign on the parchment below.
If they are town, they need to start playing better, because I'm pretty much ready to give this game up if that's the case.
I'll even let everyone just wagon us tomorrow if they flip town. I won't fight, I won't argue, I won't do anything but sit there and Post pics or something, Iunno
In post 1491, Rancid Broderick Drake wrote:Petition for both Generically Purple and Si&Am to shut the fuck up and stop whining at each other because it's distracting and they are probably both town.
Please sign on the parchment below.
If they are town, they need to start playing better, because I'm pretty much ready to give this game up if that's the case.
I'll even let everyone just wagon us tomorrow if they flip town. I won't fight, I won't argue, I won't do anything but sit there and Post pics or something, Iunno
Seriously now.
When i'm done with this meet I'm going to hook up my old computer and see if it was you who said you can read Rach.
Also TNE is v good at reading Rach too and he hasn't said a word. In fact I don't remember much from that slot so I need to keep a closer eye.
I mean, you HAVE heard my stance on AtE vs emotion, havn't you? on it's own, the admitting to have cried, is null but considering the other factors such as who tammy is, how she was wagoned, why she was wagoned, who wagoned her, the things that she constantly brags about each game (and is, thus super prideful about) ect are all factors in why it was a town-tell and not a scum-tell. the list could go on forever, and ever, and ever
and then, back to SiAm, I don't think she's town, and I stated that town is giving scum the win, before I had placed a vote anyway. I've pushed her since D1 and her claim that no one was going to go after me, that day is complete bullshit. Regardless of me being the only one to make a case between us, I have been the more viable wagon from the start. People have been suspecting me, and my defenders weren't ever going to go out of their way to defend us.
Nacho? he was barely here, and he had his own problems to deal with.
Mollie? She was to busy tunneling Nacho
SG? She was (and is) lost as all fuck in this game, and she still hasn't come back
and not only have I made a case, she has never responded to it. INSTEAD she uses AtE. Actual AtE while calling us scum, which makes very little sense to do if she actually thinks that I am scum.
as for knowing who she is, and what I expect her to know RE me...
if you can tell me that, when I play you would consider me nice, friendly, non-gambity, non-aggressive, and non-pushy when I have a scum-read on someone, if you can say that when I have a scum-read on someone, I won't pursue it if it's weak then I'll give her a pass for thinking those things as well. She knows me better than you, she's played with me more, and hydra'd with me (but that isn't even what I'm scum-reading her for, anyway)
