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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:30 am
by pirate mollie
ProHawk wrote:I'm at the point where I am almost glad to help scum win because if mollie and Dino are town, they deserve to lose.


^ potshot at town while sidelining his vote.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:32 am
by ProHawk
Guille, I need to look at it gimme a few and I will get back to you. I'm kinda going back and forth on it.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:36 am
by ProHawk
I'm done. I'm the ultimate cop. Nothing can get past me (lawyers, ect). I can target someone but wont get results until the end of the following night. I targeted Bulba N1 because I thought his overzealous defense of me was strange, but after learning he was town is actually pretty freaking impressive.

Scum won't keep me alive because there can't be anything they can do to stop me from getting a guilty. Do what you will, but congrats Mollie and Dino.

They are both highly likely scum, maybe Nazarene but I haven't really decided on them yet.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:36 am
by ProHawk
^That post above was actually playing against my win-con FWIW.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:36 am
by pirate mollie
ProHawk wrote:I'm done. I'm the ultimate cop. Nothing can get past me (lawyers, ect). I can target someone but wont get results until the end of the following night. I targeted Bulba N1 because I thought his overzealous defense of me was strange, but after learning he was town is actually pretty freaking impressive.

Scum won't keep me alive because there can't be anything they can do to stop me from getting a guilty. Do what you will, but congrats Mollie and Dino.

They are both highly likely scum, maybe Nazarene but I haven't really decided on them yet.


well then.

I see your crumb. but I am confused that you are impressed with bulba but don't trust his read on me? and why were you using bad meta? like the meta doesn't even make sense (unless you meta dived me and you must have cos I did use to do shakespeare quotes and sometimes still do!) given in most of our games we have been town together if not all of them.

I am just confused cos your play is really freaking weird but mebbe this is how you are as a special?

I am trying to reach out.

also I am getting the heebiejeebies about dgb.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:53 am
by pirate mollie
ika.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:54 am
by ika
mollie?

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:55 am
by ika
got about 2 hrs before i got work (waxing night :D)

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:07 am
by pirate mollie
thoughts

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:14 am
by ika
pirate mollie wrote:thoughts


on?

i have a lot so i can either do an entire basic info dump, or specfics on someone

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:18 am
by ika
you should know that sometimes my thoughts on something can be detramental so im playing close to heart

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:10 am
by Nazarene
Jeez, finally.

We're a tracker.
Our role pm states that our results may not be accurate and that we may instead reverse if our target is targeting someone or not.

We tracked bulb N1 to the kill. This means that we are the insane variant unless severe shenanigans.
We tracked prohawk N2 to nowhere, so we knew he performed a targeting night action. This checks out with his claim, although it does not confirm his claim.

Ef and ika next?

Prohawk, I wanna have a talk with you when I have time which will probably be tomorrow or the day after.
-Tier

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:23 am
by EddieFenix
@mollie

What about DGB is giving you the jeebee heebees?

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:57 am
by Nazarene
Still found some time today.

Prohawk, I've only played with you once before, in austin powers I believe. I connected to your thoughts very strongly; we were completely in the same frame of mind at some point, even though we had our differences earlier in the game. On this site, there are just two or three other players with whom I've connected like that.

That is in very, very sharp contrast to this game. I could not follow any push you made (except for the day 2 dino push a little), your day 1 push on shos, your push today on mollie and dino. And you're not trying very hard to explain it either. You don't answer posts directed at you, you don't elaborate, you don't try to convince others.

Superficially, your play looks much like it was in austin powers. In-depth, I don't feel the same way.

Why is all of this?

Somewhat more than 'I don't play the same every game' would be appreciated.
-Tier

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:45 pm
by DrippingGoofball
Nazarene wrote:Jeez, finally.

We're a tracker.
Our role pm states that our results may not be accurate and that we may instead reverse if our target is targeting someone or not.

We tracked bulb N1 to the kill. This means that we are the insane variant unless severe shenanigans.
We tracked prohawk N2 to nowhere, so we knew he performed a targeting night action. This checks out with his claim, although it does not confirm his claim.

Ef and ika next?

Prohawk, I wanna have a talk with you when I have time which will probably be tomorrow or the day after.
-Tier


No offense, but that sounds like a load.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:20 pm
by ProHawk
I'm going to correct you Naz, feel free to use this as your conf. guilty.

I didn't and couldn't use an action N2 because I used it N1. So no, it really doesn't check out with YOUR insane claim. So either severe shenanigans, or scum. So if you are actually town, I hope you realize how dumb it was to get people (namely me) to claim in the name of SOLVING this game. As you can see... severe shenanigans (as advertised in the freaking TITLE of the game)

Tier, in direct response to you - It's been a combination of not having enough time and spreading myself too thin getting into too many games which doesn't allow me to provide the depth and keeps me superficial.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:20 pm
by Mathdino
Im bewildered as to why Naz didnt just ask Hawk if he targeted anyone or even who he targeted. I was under the impression the specific role would change the interpretation of the results.

Its Fenixs turn btw.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:23 pm
by ProHawk
Mathdino wrote:Im bewildered as to why Naz didnt just ask Hawk if he targeted anyone or even who he targeted. I was under the impression the specific role would change the interpretation of the results.


Not sure why I am actually agreeing with this, but its a sane comment.

What I don't get is why he still thinks this is town given HIS night results.

VOTE: Dino

Also, because I believe that town still may have some saving role-grace aside from me, I motion to stop said mass claim and kill the people calling for it.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:27 pm
by EddieFenix
ProHawk wrote:

Also, because I believe that town still may have some saving role-grace aside from me, I motion to stop said mass claim and kill the people calling for it.


Dino thinks I'm giving up my role and I'm not.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:48 pm
by Mathdino
ProHawk wrote:
Mathdino wrote:Im bewildered as to why Naz didnt just ask Hawk if he targeted anyone or even who he targeted. I was under the impression the specific role would change the interpretation of the results.


Not sure why I am actually agreeing with this, but its a sane comment.

What I don't get is why he still thinks this is town given HIS night results.

VOTE: Dino

Also, because I believe that town still may have some saving role-grace aside from me, I motion to stop said mass claim and kill the people calling for it.

You missed the fact that if I wasn't on my phone that would be a more fleshed out scumread. I want Nazarene to respond to this before I decide.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:59 pm
by Mathdino
EddieFenix wrote:
ProHawk wrote:

Also, because I believe that town still may have some saving role-grace aside from me, I motion to stop said mass claim and kill the people calling for it.


Dino thinks I'm giving up my role and I'm not.

Do you have any useful results? If not, I can understand, but if so, would recommend giving them. The role isn't really the most important part of this, it's the night actions and discoveries.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:14 pm
by ProHawk
You don't even believe your own results and you want other people to claim their own. What are you hoping to accomplish here? Solve a puzzle? When scum can modify results to whatever they very-well please. RESULTS ARE WIFOM.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:17 pm
by EddieFenix
Mathdino wrote:
EddieFenix wrote:
ProHawk wrote:

Also, because I believe that town still may have some saving role-grace aside from me, I motion to stop said mass claim and kill the people calling for it.


Dino thinks I'm giving up my role and I'm not.

Do you have any useful results? If not, I can understand, but if so, would recommend giving them. The role isn't really the most important part of this, it's the night actions and discoveries.


Useful result was night 1 and we lynched that the next day.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:28 pm
by Mathdino
ProHawk wrote:You don't even believe your own results and you want other people to claim their own.
What are you hoping to accomplish here? Solve a puzzle?
When scum can modify results to whatever they very-well please. RESULTS ARE WIFOM.

Yes.

EddieFenix wrote:
Mathdino wrote:
EddieFenix wrote:
ProHawk wrote:

Also, because I believe that town still may have some saving role-grace aside from me, I motion to stop said mass claim and kill the people calling for it.


Dino thinks I'm giving up my role and I'm not.

Do you have any useful results? If not, I can understand, but if so, would recommend giving them. The role isn't really the most important part of this, it's the night actions and discoveries.


Useful result was night 1 and we lynched that the next day.

Thanks, that's good enough.

If I had to call the scumteam at this point, it'd be Nazarene/guille. I really don't understand how they needed fullclaim as a
tracker
; was under the impression they were a role similar to gunsmith where the role determines results, not actions.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:32 pm
by ProHawk
When scum go, oh hi, I turned you insane, then left you sane, then made you insane again, you get a solved puzzle. Until then. Nope.