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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:03 am
by beeboy
Friendless Seniors wrote:Honestly spiff, university just ended for me. I've been a bit busy for mafia.

I'm a bit behind haha. I'm sorta catching up but everytime I do, beeboy is screaming in my face!!!!


I gave you tons of space unless your timing is terrible.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:03 am
by Tammy
beeboy wrote:
Tammy wrote:Why would I call you scum when I was trying to figure you out and get you to cut through the shit so I could determine what your read on FS was all about? Interacting with someone and pressuring them isn't always about proving their scum but is about getting a handle on them and the game. I interact with who sticks out to me when I'm going through stuff.

What would my writing style have to do with anything?

I'm not sure what you're asking in the last question. Are you asking me if it's important if we're on the same page if I'm town or are you saying it's important we're on the same page?


If you disagreed with my how I was approaching the game why wouldn't I have the expectation you would scum read me?
Why not react to early posts in the game that are scummy instead of reacting to me?

It feels like overall safe play I don't see the reason for town to not want to pressure someone with a vote but I can see why scum wouldn't want to as negative interaction is a lot easier to walk off then a legit vote.
You keep coming up with excuses to justify why you where pressuring me and they honestly all fail to justify what you where doing.

If we are both town and do not understand each other there is a 0% chance we can work together so we will probably lose that is why getting on the same page is important.


I'm getting ready to head out so I might not answer all this very well, but if I don't I will come back to it when I get back.

I don't scumread people just because I don't like their approach to the game. I dislike people's approach to games all the time and think they're town. Hell there are people who's approach to the game I don't particularly like but respect the hell out of and when I can understand them and their approach then I have a better understanding of them and a better ability to read them.

Early game I didn't know what to think of you because your push on FS was so overblown and the reasoning did not jive with me at all. I needed to figure out if your push on them was real, fake or from scum. Were you blowing hot air or were you serious? I started to think that the push itself was genuine, but considering I did not like the reasoning, I can't buy your reads. Which is why I was trying to get you to cut through the shit of what is not scummy in a vacuum and get you to actually get at the heart of the read so that I could evaluate your read and them more fairly.

I don't have to justify anything. I've told you my motivation and it's up to you whether or not you want to disbelieve it. If you want to paint it as something other than what it is, then that's up to you. There's really not a whole lot more I can do about that, so.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:04 am
by Spiffeh
My biggest problem with Friendless Seniors is that both heads are writing me off as town fsr

When I don't even think I've been particularly obvtown this game

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:05 am
by Spiffeh
And town!hippy is usually paranoid of me early on :neutral:

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:07 am
by Tammy
Soooooo I just read the latest beeboy post to me.

never mind. We're at an impasse.

see you guys later suckaz.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:09 am
by Cerberus v666
Friendless Seniors wrote:VOTE: ranger

this is scum, actually.


How does this make you feel beeboy?

Spiffeh wrote:My biggest problem with Friendless Seniors is that both heads are writing me off as town fsr

When I don't even think I've been particularly obvtown this game


You really haven't been. :-/ You should fix that. :(

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:10 am
by beeboy
Cerberus v666 wrote:How does this make you feel beeboy?


Bad

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:10 am
by Tammy
Spiffeh talk to me when I come back. I need someone nice to talk to!

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:12 am
by Cerberus v666
beeboy wrote:
Cerberus v666 wrote:How does this make you feel beeboy?


Bad


Maybe elaborate more? Does it make you second guess your scum read on either slot? Does it make you think seniors is just bussing ranger? Does it do something else?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:12 am
by Spiffeh
I hate that TWL and Pied Piper are MIA

granted for valid reasons but still

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:12 am
by beeboy
Tammy wrote:I'm getting ready to head out so I might not answer all this very well, but if I don't I will come back to it when I get back.

I don't scumread people just because I don't like their approach to the game. I dislike people's approach to games all the time and think they're town. Hell there are people who's approach to the game I don't particularly like but respect the hell out of and when I can understand them and their approach then I have a better understanding of them and a better ability to read them.


Yes I understand it could be a play style thing which is why I am not scum reading you.

Early game I didn't know what to think of you because your push on FS was so overblown and the reasoning did not jive with me at all. I needed to figure out if your push on them was real, fake or from scum. Were you blowing hot air or were you serious? I started to think that the push itself was genuine, but considering I did not like the reasoning, I can't buy your reads. Which is why I was trying to get you to cut through the shit of what is not scummy in a vacuum and get you to actually get at the heart of the read so that I could evaluate your read and them more fairly.


Yes I exaggerated it on purpose but I had some legit suspicion there.

I don't have to justify anything. I've told you my motivation and it's up to you whether or not you want to disbelieve it. If you want to paint it as something other than what it is, then that's up to you. There's really not a whole lot more I can do about that, so.

I haven't decided if I want to believe it yet which is why you are null in my eyes.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:13 am
by Spiffeh
Tammy I am still like 10 pages behind despite having posted several times since then

Because I'm lazy

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:13 am
by Friendless Seniors
spiffeh you're kinda null to me but EP is townreading you. Even when you're scum, I'm always willing to work with you spiff

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:14 am
by Tammy
I haven't even made many long posts this game, so *middle finger*, certainly not as long as I can make them! And what is putting someone down for their writing style anyway other than you just wanting to be mean.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:14 am
by beeboy
Cerberus v666 wrote:
beeboy wrote:
Cerberus v666 wrote:How does this make you feel beeboy?


Bad


Maybe elaborate more? Does it make you second guess your scum read on either slot? Does it make you think seniors is just bussing ranger? Does it do something else?


It could easily be bussing it didn't impact my read on either of them tbh.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:17 am
by Spiffeh
beeboy and Tammy stop talking to each other you're both town

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:18 am
by Friendless Seniors
^ what he said

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:18 am
by beeboy
Tammy wrote:I haven't even made many long posts this game, so *middle finger*, certainly not as long as I can make them! And what is putting someone down for their writing style anyway other than you just wanting to be mean.


It could be a writing style thing, I just find that it is odd for someone with a writing style like what you are saying yours is to not want to read long posts which is what made me believe it isn't a writing style thing.
Maybe I am wrong I am not going to use that to read you but I am put in a position where I need to justify my original position and that is was doing.

I didn't mean to insult you I tend to word things poorly.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:19 am
by beeboy
Spiffeh wrote:beeboy and Tammy stop talking to each other you're both town


Even if she is this is important.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:19 am
by beeboy
Spiffeh wrote:beeboy and Tammy stop talking to each other you're both town


Even if she is this is important.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:26 am
by Tammy
beeboy wrote:
Tammy wrote:I haven't even made many long posts this game, so *middle finger*, certainly not as long as I can make them! And what is putting someone down for their writing style anyway other than you just wanting to be mean.


It could be a writing style thing, I just find that it is odd for someone with a writing style like what you are saying yours is to not want to read long posts which is what made me believe it isn't a writing style thing.
Maybe I am wrong I am not going to use that to read you but I am put in a position where I need to justify my original position and that is was doing.

I didn't mean to insult you I tend to word things poorly.


*Quote Stripes*, not long posts. And I do read them; I just can't read them when I'm reading quickly and I can't and probably won't read them all. I have a hard time following quote stripes, always have. It puts me in a disoriented state of the game where I have a hard time reading the people and following their positions. It takes me a lot longer to read and process because of that.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:28 am
by beeboy
Ok I am following what you are saying.


I am going to wait for more people to vote Seniors now.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:29 am
by Friendless Seniors
quote stripes sound so cute

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:42 am
by davesaz
When you say quote stripes do you mean the multi quote of a lot of posts, or snipping a big post into smaller bits to respond to them, or big pyramids of quotes instead of responding to the latest?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:50 am
by Skybird
Friendless Seniors wrote:
Skybird wrote:I'm here too and can give you my thoughts.You - Didn't like your push on FS at first. But after going over your ISO overall your other questions and activity look town to me.FS - I don't like the amount of time they spent complaining about your (BBoy) push on them. I also don't like that they are scum-reading me off one post. They like Ami's case on me even though that consists of Ami not liking my questions and assigning a scum motivation to it. EP and Hippy have both played with me before so they know how I am D1 in a large. Their position on me feels a lot like a slot keeping their options open to be able to jump on a lynchbait wagon. Leaning scum here.Ranger - feels town. Ranger just got in the game and spent some time reading and putting forth reads as she went along. The posts read as open and forthright to me. I want to see more as we go along but for now, I'm not interested in lynching Ranger today.VOTE: Friendless Seniors

Hippy has been largely absent. I agree you're probably town.

Why us over ranger?


Ranger feels more town, you feel more scum.